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Ontario formally passes law to prohibit sharia (Buh bye...sharia!)
ctv (Canada) ^ | 2/14/2006 | Staff

Posted on 02/14/2006 5:59:28 PM PST by Dark Skies

TORONTO — Ontario has formally passed legislation to prohibit the use of religious tribunals to settle family law disputes such as custody and divorce.

The bill was introduced after Premier Dalton McGuinty promised last year to prohibit the use of religious rules, called Shariah law, to settle Muslim family law cases.

McGuinty surprised many when he announced he would not only ban Shariah, but would also prohibit all religious arbitrations in Ontario.

The Canadian Jewish Congress said Tuesday it was disappointed with the new law.

"It assumes that faith-based approaches to arbitration are innately exploitative," said Mark Freiman, honorary legal counsel for the Canadian Jewish Congress Ontario Region.

"This view is insulting to all women and to the faiths to which Ontarians adhere. It should concern all people in this province."

Attorney General Michael Bryant says passage of the legislation means there will be only one law for all Ontarians, regardless of their religion.

Opposition Leader John Tory supports the bill, but says the government should have consulted affected groups before McGuinty made his surprise announcement last fall.

NDP Leader Howard Hampton predicts the ban on all religious tribunals will have to be revisited in a few years.

McGuinty said last September that Ontario residents will always have the right to seek advice from anyone in matters of family law, including religious advice.

"But no longer will religious arbitration be deciding matters of family law," he said.

There were protests across Canada and Europe last summer to convince Ontario to abandon Shariah after a report recommended the province regulate Muslim tribunals.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; canuckistan; islam; muslim; sharia; wot
What...islam doesn't travel well? Who da thunk?
1 posted on 02/14/2006 5:59:31 PM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Fred Nerks; USF

Ping?


2 posted on 02/14/2006 6:00:23 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

Good.


3 posted on 02/14/2006 6:02:27 PM PST by M203M4
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To: Dark Skies

Bravo! One for the good guys!


4 posted on 02/14/2006 6:04:20 PM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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Why does every article posted on FR have to contain at least one stupid, (My Title)? Just post the article and leave your comments for the rest of the thread where they belong.


5 posted on 02/14/2006 6:05:14 PM PST by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: M203M4

Ditto.


6 posted on 02/14/2006 6:07:11 PM PST by GSlob
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To: paul544

Why do some people have to exagerate all the time?


7 posted on 02/14/2006 6:07:54 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (If we're not going to learn from the past, what's the point of having one. -Peggy Hill)
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To: Dark Skies
Well I'll be...

This is a shock-a-rooney from Canada.

8 posted on 02/14/2006 6:08:36 PM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: Dark Skies

Canada is starting to get on my good side again.


9 posted on 02/14/2006 6:09:16 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dark Skies
"It assumes that faith-based approaches to arbitration are innately exploitative," said Mark Freiman, honorary legal counsel for the Canadian Jewish Congress Ontario Region."

Well, to distill it into a single word... exactly.

Your personal faith/religious sect may have more stringent requirements of its members, but that does not give your faith/religious sect equality with/or superiority over a democratically elected governments secular laws.

Sheesh!
10 posted on 02/14/2006 6:12:35 PM PST by sarasmom (I don't care who John Gault is, I just need his email address.)
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To: Dark Skies
So they have outlawed religious arbitration.

While I'm not to keen on sharia, I do like the idea of arbitration to settle matters.

Even if the arbitration case is based on religious reasoning.

11 posted on 02/14/2006 6:12:57 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Dark Skies; USF

The Canadian Jewish Congress said Tuesday it was disappointed with the new law.




I NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THIS ME...The Canadian Jewish Congress SUPPORTS sharia?
Am I stupid or something? Don't hesitate to tell me if I am, I can take it.


12 posted on 02/14/2006 6:16:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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To: Dark Skies
Good!

Now they have to kick out these islamic claims of "blasphemy" in the cartoon intifada which is a part of their ongoing effort to introduce elements of sharia oppression on others. They know if they can introduce sharia, muslims generations down the road can point to this "evidence" of "islamic settlements" and claim the land for islam to justify future jihads.

13 posted on 02/14/2006 6:20:50 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Dark Skies

Riots in Toronto next?


14 posted on 02/14/2006 6:21:28 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Dark Skies

Canada sacking up? Wow! Good for them.


15 posted on 02/14/2006 6:22:05 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Sonny M
While I'm not to keen on sharia...

Get to know sharia. You will find it to be an ancient evil.

16 posted on 02/14/2006 6:25:01 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

Excellent!

When in a Christian country, do as the Christians do or get out.


17 posted on 02/14/2006 6:27:19 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (Tancredo for President.)
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To: paul544

On the last page I looked at 17 did not contain your offense and 4 did. If you do not like them just don't read them. I have never posted one but I sometimes use them to decide if I am going to read or not.


18 posted on 02/14/2006 6:27:39 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Fred Nerks

As you and I know...the truth lies in bringing the light to the hidden customs. If hidden customs are good...they will stand the test. If not...so long!


19 posted on 02/14/2006 6:27:42 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: EBH
Bravo! One for the good guys!

Perhaps there is hope for Canada after all.

20 posted on 02/14/2006 6:37:23 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Dark Skies

Now all they have to do is pass a law that all mosques must be converted into rib joints and they will be done.


21 posted on 02/14/2006 6:40:33 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: Dark Skies
"Attorney General Michael Bryant says passage of the legislation means there will be only one law for all Ontarians, regardless of their religion."

What a revolutionary concept!

"Ontario residents will always have the right to seek advice from anyone in matters of family law, including religious advice."

Another revolutionary concept!

What's going on? Is it a REVOLUTION???

22 posted on 02/14/2006 6:40:43 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush and his surveillance program.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Hooters!


23 posted on 02/14/2006 6:41:59 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Fred Nerks
Am I stupid or something? Don't hesitate to tell me if I am, I can take it.

No Fred its not you... I have no idea what they are thinking, and can only assume its a manifestation of some of the advanced symptoms of the blinding and disabilitating disease called liberalism which will progressively eat its way thru human brain cells unless it's treated and cured in time.

Wait a sec... I just checked with my imam and he thinks it's obvious they don't understand the master plan. He has offered to mail them his copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, complete with his highlighted passages. To be fair, he's also going to send notes on how to be a good dhimmi, and a very useful map locating box thorns to hide behind...

24 posted on 02/14/2006 6:55:25 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Sonny M
Even if the arbitration case is based on religious reasoning.
Well lessee, she went to the market unescorted and "lunched with a strange man". Stone her - she's a whore.

Feel free to go to church as you choose. Pray as many times a day as you choose but please allow everyone their freedom to do as they please as long as its within our laws. Thanks. I'd appreciate it. Oh and genital mutilation, hatred for Jews and infidels or whatever? Just take your little religion and your butt to church or wherever but leave the rest of us alone. Thanks again.

25 posted on 02/14/2006 7:00:01 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: USF

Thanks, I knew you would help. They need this information badly and quick! They have only had 1400 years to think about it. sheesh!


26 posted on 02/14/2006 7:12:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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To: isthisnickcool

mmmmmmm . . .ribs


27 posted on 02/14/2006 7:14:40 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (If stupidity were painful, liberals would be extinct)
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To: Dark Skies
the use of religious tribunals to settle family law disputes such as custody and divorce.

What the heck does that actually entail?

It's never described in the article.

If two people want to use a religious tribunal, good for them, what business is it of the government to say they can't? OTOH since when does a religious tribunal have any official say as far the the govt is concerned?

What IS the current situation?

28 posted on 02/14/2006 7:25:39 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Tunehead54
Just take your little religion and your butt to church or wherever but leave the rest of us alone.

Thats kind of why I like arbitration.

Corporatations use it all the time, for non illegal but business related activities.

With arbitration, they can keep some of these cases out of the court system.

I'd have no problem having a rabbi do an arbitration case between 2 neighbors or whatever.

29 posted on 02/14/2006 7:38:22 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: JohnnyZ
If two people want to use a religious tribunal, good for them, what business is it of the government to say they can't?

They can . Just don't ask the Ontario Government or the Justice system to enforce it .

Pick any State. Can two people come to an agreement , say divorce , based on Sharia or any other religion and get a court order to enforce the agreement ? In Ontario they can't .

30 posted on 02/14/2006 7:46:24 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: Dark Skies

I love our First Amendment. Equal Justice!


31 posted on 02/14/2006 7:50:42 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Snowyman
Can two people come to an agreement , say divorce , based on Sharia or any other religion and get a court order to enforce the agreement ?

Sure. They go to the judge, say we've agreed to divorce on these terms, get the official stamp, and go home.

Which is why I asked what exactly was allowed previously and is allowed and not allowed after the change, which hasn't been answered.

32 posted on 02/14/2006 8:13:54 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THIS ME...The Canadian Jewish Congress SUPPORTS sharia?

It isn't that these folks support *sharia*, it's that they also were utilizing religious based arbitration (Jewish, in their case), within *their* community, and now that's been scuttled...

the infowarrior

33 posted on 02/14/2006 8:17:59 PM PST by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: infowarrior

Oh, now I see, thanks. Sauce for the goose and all that.


34 posted on 02/14/2006 10:01:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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