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Top Counterterrorism Officer Removed Amid Turmoil at CIA
wash post ^ | February 7, 2006 | Barton Gellman and Dafna Linzer

Posted on 02/12/2006 5:40:43 PM PST by prairiebreeze

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To: Howlin; kcvl
How is the WP naming this guy as covert different than Valerie Plame? Won't this "damage" the CIA?

Other then the articles about him being asked to step down

I'm find nothing on this guy through google ... though there is another Richard Grenier that had worked for the CIA ... but it looks like he died last year

Plus I found this .. but I can't get the whole article

http://www.questia.com/search/cia-spying

Spying in Jericho and the CIA Newspaper article by Richard Grenier; The Washington Times, February 28, 1997 Spying in Jericho and the CIA by Richard Grenier The most...sense. Gradually - in movies now also - the CIA, representing the sole remaining super...satanic presence. In movie after movie the CIA became the solitary villain. Even in the...

41 posted on 02/12/2006 6:37:08 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Howlin

Yeah, I noticed that. Since he was brought back in 2003 he's only been in the US for 2 1/2 years, nowhere NEAR the 5 years that's required. Sounds to me as thought the WP has outed a covert agent.


42 posted on 02/12/2006 6:37:38 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: Mo1

Do you suspect that this author Richard Grenier is related to Robert Grenier?


43 posted on 02/12/2006 6:38:38 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Txsleuth
Let me also add G. Berntsen's suggestion that we could have completely sealed off escape routes leading out of Tora Bora is absolutely wrong (and he knows it)...but the majority reading his books and talking heads on TV don't have enough of a true understanding of the terrain in that region and fall for this BS.
44 posted on 02/12/2006 6:39:18 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Howlin

GOOD point.


45 posted on 02/12/2006 6:40:12 PM PST by Peach
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To: Lancey Howard
Do you suspect that this author Richard Grenier is related to Robert Grenier?

I don't think so .. since that link from Amazon.com says he died last year

BTW .. there is also a poet with the same name .. I have no idea who is .. *L*

46 posted on 02/12/2006 6:40:56 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: McGavin999

Somebody better call Fitzgerald.


47 posted on 02/12/2006 6:42:36 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a White Out Republican.)
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To: DevSix

Thanks for reminding me of his name...

I remember thinking at the time of an interview that he did...that had a lot more of the Rangers been sent into Tora Bora...I felt that they would be walking into a trap..

The Taliban know that area, we don't....and like you, I didn't think that OBL stayed in that area...not when there is an area in Pakistan, where America isn't allowed enter, that would hide him well..

AND, regardless of what Hillary Clinton said the other day...it doesn't matter how TALL he is, when he is in Pakistan villages being hidden in buildings, NOT walking around in the desert of Afghanistan...sheesh

Of course, all of the above becomes moot, if he is dead....and I am not convinced he isn't dead..

Just like I am not convinced there were NO WMDS in Iraq...I believe they were there..and moved.


48 posted on 02/12/2006 6:43:17 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: ansel12; Peach
Okay, I hate to quote Larry Johnson, but here goes:
US military personnel who worked with Grenier during his time in Pakistan remarked that he was always a dapper dresser and worked banker's hours. They joked that he was well rested during the war.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/26366
49 posted on 02/12/2006 6:44:22 PM PST by Freedom is eternally right
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To: McGavin999
I wonder if Robert Grenier is a leaker?
50 posted on 02/12/2006 6:44:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Bahbah
Do they not understand or do they not care? I don't know the answer.

There are some of us who think we *do* know the answer to this, and it isn't pretty. It's *neither* not knowing, *nor* not caring. They are active pursuing an agenda which is *not* in the best interests of the United States as a nation, because they literally believe "nationalism" is an outmoded concept. They pursue a "one world government" paradigm, to the exclusion of all else. Everything they do is calculated to advance the installation of that global government.

In order for this global government to work, they need some method of controlling the world's population. Two preferred methods are the totalitarian and conformist-based ideologies of Marxism, and Islam. It is no coincidence that most career professionals are/were largely pro-Soviet, and pro Arab. With the fall of the Iron Curtain, and the implosion of the Soviet Union, which oddly enough, these "best and brightest" couldn't, or more likely wouldn't foresee, the emphasis has gone from near-overt support for Marxism, to near-overt support for Islam. They need the vehicle for their global governance scheme...

the infowarrior

51 posted on 02/12/2006 6:46:20 PM PST by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: Howlin

Great point, Howlin....aren't his contacts from when he was over there undercover in danger now...if Valerie's supposedly were??


52 posted on 02/12/2006 6:47:20 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: prairiebreeze
By the way, for anybody interested in reading additional responses here's the original post of this story from Tuesday:

CIA counter-terrorism chief steps down ~

53 posted on 02/12/2006 6:49:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Txsleuth

Well, if we both agree that it appears the same standard would apply to him, we must be wrong. :-)


54 posted on 02/12/2006 6:50:11 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a White Out Republican.)
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To: Howlin

"Can somebody explain to me why THIS disclosure by the New York Times is any different than the Valerie Plame affair?"

Simple. They haven't figured out how to blame this one on the Bush Administration yet.

I am sure they are working on that.


55 posted on 02/12/2006 6:53:05 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: TheBlueMax

bump


56 posted on 02/12/2006 6:53:41 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party. aka Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: Txsleuth

I don't know about that book, sorry. I meant to ping you TXsleuth, glad you saw the thread.


57 posted on 02/12/2006 6:55:17 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party. aka Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: Bahbah

Bahbah, they not only don't care but in their twisted logic America deserves bad things.

sigh..


58 posted on 02/12/2006 6:56:11 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party. aka Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: Mo1

Different Grenier I think.


59 posted on 02/12/2006 6:58:05 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party. aka Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: TheBlueMax
The Aussie take on it, with yet another one of Joe and Val's defenders being quoted:
WASHINGTON: The CIA's senior counter-terrorism official was fired because he opposed detaining al-Qa'ida suspects in secret prisons abroad, sending them to other countries for interrogation abroad and using forms of torture such as "water boarding", intelligence sources have claimed.

Robert Grenier, head of the CIA counter-terrorism centre, was relieved of his post last week after a year in the job. One intelligence official said he was "not quite as aggressive as he might have been" in pursuing al-Qa'ida leaders and networks.

Vincent Cannistraro, a former head of counter-terrorism at the agency, said: "It is not that Grenier wasn't aggressive enough -- it's that he wasn't with the program. He expressed misgivings about the secret prisons in Europe and the rendition of terrorists."

Mr Grenier also opposed "excessive" interrogation, such as strapping suspects to boards and submerging them in water, Mr Cannistraro said.

http://tinyurl.com/aqspu

60 posted on 02/12/2006 6:59:19 PM PST by Freedom is eternally right
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