A look Back: Has the Real Islam Finally Stood Up!

various publications ^ | Original: October 2001 | Van Jenerette

[Van Jenerette]

February 2006: Has the Real Islam Finally Stood Up!

A Time Machine look back to a FreeRepublic Old Thread from 2001
Will the Real Islam Please Stand Up!
Van Jenerette Editorial Comment, Various Publications ^ | Sunday, October 14, 2001 | Van Jenerette

Posted on 10/14/2001 7:45:23 PM PDT by Van Jenerette

Will The Real Islam
Please Stand Up?

Stop telling me about Islam. Shouldn't the media and talk shows hosts really be instructing 'wayward' Muslims and their followers who have 'hijacked' Islam about the true meaning of the Koran and Islam. I really don't care about their religion. Tell them about their religion! Just tell the Muslims who have their Koran and the Prophets' message all wrong that they have it backwards and inside out. They seem to be the ones who need to understand the 'true' meaning of the Koran and Islam. by Van Jenerette, Major, U.S. Army(ret) Ph.D. Candidate, University of South Carolina Sunday, October 14, 2001

I really don't give a rat's explicit about Islam. ...Tell the Muslim's who have hijacked Islam about their religion!			Why can't I turn on the television or read a newspaper or magazine without being bombarded by some instruction from the media on how I should 'understand' Islam? Thanks, but no thanks. I really don't give a rat's explicit about Islam. I just don't like Americans being killed by anyone - and I like it even less when someone comes into my country to do the killing. I don't care to hear any reason this or excuse that or please understand their anger explanations. I just want to hang the people who did it and never let anyone think they can do it again. Not here. I live here. Anyway, it's been over a month since the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks and there seems to be hundreds of TV talk-show hosts, news people, Islamic experts, roaming Imams, and Muslim clerics who keep telling me how I should get aquatinted with the 'real' Muslim world of the Koran, Hadith and the Sunna and how these terrorist guys who pulled off the 9/11 attacks don't really represent the actual Islamic faith or the teachings of the prophet. If this is true, why should I be the target audience on what 'true' Islam really is? I didn't crash a plane in to the WTC, and I didn't send my children out into the streets to cheer the deaths of thousands of innocent people. If I have it right, all the people who did this were Muslims. Correct? Shouldn't the media and talk show hosts really be instructing these 'wayward' Muslims and their followers who have 'hijacked' Islam about the true meaning of the Koran and Islam? I mean I already know what they did was wrong as do most honest American's, so why are you telling me? I don't really care about their religion. Tell them about their religion! Yes, tell the Muslims. Now there's a thought, just tell the Muslims who have their Koran and the Prophet's message all wrong - that they have it backwards and inside out. To me, they seem to be the ones who need to understand the 'true' meaning of the Koran and Islam. After all; according to the television 'experts', Islam means peace, not surrender or submission as I've read in Arabic. See, at this point as an outsider, I really don't know who has the Koran right - the Islamic Fundamentalist or the Islamic Traditionalist - the Sunni or the Shii Muslims, the Wahabis and who ever else is involved, including an assortment of Islamic terrorists themselves. I've heard so much talk from the experts that even Jihad is beginning to sound like a cross between a personal love fest or a pretty violent and murderous enterprise depending on who you are listening to at the time. So please, to all the media types and so-called Islamic experts - stop giving me your line on how these guys have hijacked a religion and just have the guts to tell Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, the Taliban and other Muslims who agree with them, that they have the Koran and the Prophet Mohammad all wrong. Period. Like it or not, in the big picture there seems to be no shortage of Muslims who agree with Bin Laden and other Terrorism Inc. members, et. al. But, even worse is the fact that they live all over the world and there are millions of them! From, China to Chechnya, to Indonesia, to the Philippians, back to India, into Saudi Arabia, south to Nigeria and about 50 other places you might not want to visit. To top it off, they come in a variety pack of all races and colors - brown, white, black, blue-eyed; black hair, beards, turbans, suits and ties. Wow! You've got to wonder; which Koran are these guys reading? I mean, someone has to have the Koran right and someone else has to have it wrong! Right? So many Muslims today make it sound like there are two versions of the Koran floating around out there. If so, what is the difference between the Koran that the Terrorists are reading, and the Koran that the rest of the Muslim world is reading? Is there an Original Koran and Revised Koran? If so, who is reading which version? Why is there an absence of direct condemnation and action targeted at millions of wayward Muslims who follow the terrorists? Why is there no overt and highly visible attempt to re-educate error-laden-believers to the 'true' message of Islam and the Prophet Mohhamad? I'm confused. This leads to some pretty difficult questions that I would like some brave souls or the members of the media to ask some Muslim leaders or other Islamic experts and try to get some straight answers: #1) Why is there such a huge effort to convince Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant, kind, respectful religion, but there is no such direct effort to convey the same messages into the Mosques and the Arab Muslim world; especially to those Muslims in Gaza, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Tajikistan, the West Bank, etc.? In the same breath, why are Christian churches, Christian worship and Christian preaching banned in so many Islamic nations if Islam is so tolerant of all faiths? #2) Where are the Muslim world's media television, talk-show hosts', news people, Islamic experts' and roaming Imams' and clerics' voices with the message that people should not listen to Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other Muslims who use terrorism. Why aren't they saying that the terrorist interpretations of the Koran and the Prophet's teachings are all wrong? #3) If the Terrorists and the Islamic Fundamentalists have 'hijacked' Islam to further their own agenda and are not following the Koran; why haven't the clerics and Imams issued a fatwa (religious decree) in full view of Muslims everywhere; as set forth in Islamic law and the Koran, for those who have decried the 'true' faith and edicts of Islam? Does anyone remember the author Salman Rushdie? They didn't waste anytime putting a price on his head and all he did is write a book that broke Islamic Law. #4) Why hasn't the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC); who represents nearly one-fifth of the world's population, named Bin laden directly and condemned him and other terrorist organizations as apostates to the Muslim Religion? Better yet, if in truth Islam is a religion that prohibits the murder and killing of the innocent, why haven't Muslims everywhere; including the OIC, condemned the bombing of Disco's, Pizzeria's, or the killing of civilians and of school children in Israel? #5) If Jihad, by definition does not include the concept of a violent 'Holy War', why do so many Islamic clerics and followers of the Muslim religion keep using it for justification of their killing of other people of other faiths or nations? Can millions of readers of the Koran have it that wrong? #6) Pardon my ignorance of the Koran, but if a Catholic Priest did a 'such-and-such' terrible deed, the Bishops, the Cardinals, and the Pope would all condemn the actions and excommunicate the offender. Why is there no such action against the terrorists who (according to all the Islamic clergy and American and Muslim experts who are 'educating' the American public to Islam) have violated the Koran? #7) Finally, can the Muslims have it both ways? Either the Koran is specific or it is not. Either the plethora of Islamic terrorists organizations are following the literal edicts of the Koran and the Sunan, or they are apostates that must be destroyed by other Muslims with even more vengeance - that which is extended to non-believers. Which way is it? I would really like some direct and specific answers. I don't want to hear history about the Crusades, or the U.S. foreign policy crap, or the rage of Muslims, or the Palestinians claims to the same lands as the Israelis, or comparisons to Christianity and Judaism, or stories of poverty or hunger, or the CIA, or other 'look-behind-you' and 'blame-the-victim' excuses. Most of what has been said in the media has been either pure bull or a lesser mix of lies and rumors. At this point, the majority of Americans don't want to hear excuses. We want action. Save the excuses for a more Politically Correct time period and a more gullible audience. Not that it matters, but I'm still not sure if I'm considered a non-believer that Muslims should live in peace with or if I am an infidel that should be killed for my corrupt life style, or my religious belief of Jesus Christ and the trinity of God. I need to have the 'real' Islam please stand up. I suppose for the time being we are stuck and must consider that there are but two possibilities: in the least, either the majority of Muslims aquiecese to the 'hijacking' of their religion, or at worst, they give tacit approval to the murderous actions the Islamic terrorists have done in the name of Allah.
			Notes: Before the 11th of September, I really didn't care what Islam was all about. Actually I didn't give a rat's ass; it was just another religion with it's share of contradictions and eccentric notions. Outside of some studies of the Koran and the Sunan while at the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College, I never gave Islam much thought. In that case, I opened the book on this most 'interesting' religion only when confronted by some Muslim Officers from Arab countries who tried to convince me about the rightousnous of 'Honor Killing' for wayward daughters at the hands of their own families. A pretty chilling concept for a American father with six children. At least in their Muslim world my sons were safe. Small comfort - four of my children are girls. According to them, the female population of America would dramatically decrease; but improve, overnight once we 'saw the light.' Whew. That's a real scary thought.

About the Writer....

Van Jenerette is a Policy adivisor to U.S. Rep. Henry Brown, 1st Congressional District, South Carolina. He served as a Congressional Staff Assistant to U.S. Rep. Arthur Ravenel, Jr., 1st Congressional District, South Carolina from 1992 to 1994 and was a candidate for the 1st District Congressional seat in the 2000 election. He is a U.S. Army veteran and the father of six children.

Jenerette is a Ph.D. Candidate in Sociology at the University of South Carolina, where he has also taught Sociology. Van presently teaches Political Science, Leadership Development, and Sociology as a full time faculty member at Southeastern Community College, and he teaches Social Theory at Coastal Carolina University. He received his Bachelors degree from Troy State University, Alabama where he graduated Summa cum Laude in 1981, he holds a Masters Degree from the University of Kansas and has done post graduate studies at the College of Charleston. He is a member of the American Mensa Society, an athlete, a scuba-diver and a runner who has competed in every distance from the mile through the 26-mile marathon. While in the Army, he competed in the 1990 U.S. Army Europe Track and Field Championships. He has studied five languages and has lived in three foreign countries.

Jenerette had a distinguished military career. Enlisting as a private during the Vietnam War in 1967, he served a combat tour as a Recon Scout with an Infantry Battalion on the Korean DMZ during the USS Pueblo Crisis. He rose through the enlisted ranks to Staff Sergeant, saw duty as a Drill Instructor at Fort Knox and received a commission as an Infantry Lieutenant after attending Infantry OCS in 1972 at Ft. Benning Georgia.

Jenerette is a graduate of the U.S. Army Command & General Staff College, Ft. Leavenworth, the 7th Infantry Division Counterguerilla Warfare School and the Defense Information School Officers Course. He served fourteen Army tours and his assignments included duty with the 1st Special Forces Group (ABN), Okinawa; the United Nations Honor Guard Contingent, Korea, which included service with United Kingdom British and Ghurkha forces and duty with the 1st Infantry, 2d Infantry and 7th Infantry Divisions.

Jenerette is married to Katherine Schmidt of Newport News, Virginia who served with the US Army in Operation Desert Storm and now teaches American History and Western Civilization.

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[Van Jenerette]

Perhaps now even the MEDIA gets it this time?

[trubluolyguy]

The real Islam stood up on September 11th 2001.


The so-called moderate muslims just haven't gotten around to demanding sharia law in this country yet.

[Tzimisce]

I couldn't have said it better, and I've tried.

[MNJohnnie]

Nope. As the General said the Media is stuck on stupid. However, I suspect many average Europeans are finally getting it and it is helping some of our weak sisters in the USA remember why we fight so it's all good in the 'hood.

[de Buillion]

As long as our President, and all MSM, participate in this "GOOD MUSLIM" vs "FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM" farce, the truth cannot surface. There is only Muslims. They are ALL completely dedicated to the destruction of the free world, and democratic governments. They are all Fundamentalist Muslums. They are ALL dedicated to enslaving your ass, and putting your women in burkas. The Crusade continues.

[OldArmy52]

Dudes, this is how it is:

The West to include the USA is dependent on Muslim oil.

Consequently, we have to kiss Muslim butt so they don't turn off the spigots again.

Now if we had a brain, we would remove all the "don't drill here" laws and also go heavy into nuclear, etc.

If we had a brain.....

[de Buillion]

Amen!

[SR 50]

Muslims can never and will never accept and adjust to the life style of the western world. It is not in their nature and it is not in their religion. Nothing will ever change that.

[backhoe]

I've been beating on this particular bell for years- anyone listening?

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

-Time to kick the tires & light the fires, folks- terrorism gathers across the World...--

-Jihad! Across the World....--

-All Terror, All the Time-- FR's links to NBC Warfare, Terror, and More...--

-IRAQ- some links to terror--

-The Web of Terror--

-Terror Tips--

-The Fire Down South...( Latin America--)--

[Caipirabob]

BUMP!

[Coldwater Creek]

The real Islam has been waiting in the wings for a very long time until the climate was just right in the U.S.

The problem is as always, they misunderestamisted George Bush.

[Coldwater Creek]

The President knows the difference, but he must use some semblance of diplomacy.

[Coldwater Creek]

So, what is your solution to the problem. Do nothing and let the Muslim's just take over?

[roaddog727]

Spot on.

[FreedomPoster]

Or, as I have often said, since seeing it said early on:

"Sometimes diplomacy means saying "Nice doggie!" while looking around for a big rock."

[Coldwater Creek]

Absolutely!!!!!

[Joe Miner]

Great Article, Thank you.

[SR 50]

Nope. They are, either voluntarily or involuntarily returned to their country of choice.

[sure_fine]