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"Sensitivity" can have brutal consequences - Mark Steyn
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 2/5/06 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/05/2006 6:14:29 AM PST by joonbug

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To: IronJack

We can even accept Paypal!


61 posted on 02/05/2006 12:44:10 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: joonbug

LOL...little Dutch caught in the eye of the nutters.


62 posted on 02/05/2006 12:49:42 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: nomorelurker
Yeh. Again. And for the same reason as last time - because the alternative's worse.

I don't like it any better than you do.

63 posted on 02/05/2006 12:52:59 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: abner

And our operators are standing by 24/7 ... except during prayers.


64 posted on 02/05/2006 12:55:19 PM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

You are so sensitive...


65 posted on 02/05/2006 1:21:49 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: Billthedrill

Reminds me of the Democrats - "outrage" for the sake of outrage only. All scripted and planned. Waiting for the right moment. Like Democratic "outrage" over things they supported or did when they were in power.


66 posted on 02/05/2006 2:46:58 PM PST by joonbug
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To: B.O. Plenty

The typical liberal believes that your enemy will leave you alone if you bend over backwards to be nice to them.It's like that bear lover who was eaten by a Grizzly because he thought that his love for the bears would protect him better than a large caliber rifle.He screamed for his companion to hit the bear with a frying pan while the bear had his head in his mouth.Reality is what it is,not what you want it to be.


67 posted on 02/05/2006 2:59:12 PM PST by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: abner
You are so sensitive...

Awwwwww. Now yer makin' me blush ...

68 posted on 02/05/2006 7:40:46 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
This Finnish blogger had a pretty good take on multi-culturalism:

The real tragedy is not in the fact that only a small portion of Muslims sees Islam as a reason to their low lot in life. The real tragedy is that the West is chaining them into their reactionary doctrinal prison. Occasional reasonable voices from the Muslim world are not listened to, but we rather kowtow in front of imams. For example, why doesn't Finland throw [Muslims who advocate violence] in jail charged with advocating violence, and suggest that they listen to [Muslims who denounce violence]? I believe the answer can be found in the very ontology of "tolerance" and multiculturalism.

"Tolerance" is feeling superior for your goodness and ethical values. Since it is a form of superiority, it must be something that distinguishes the "tolerant person" from the majority of people. It must be an esoteric doctrine with complex rules, because otherwise there would be no need for diversity experts and consultants. Most people happily tolerate everything that makes sense and doesn't harm them or their environment. For example, the small islamic community of tatars in Finland has never caused any fear or passions in Finns. Because everybody agrees with tolerance like this, it is not good tolerance, since the purpose of "tolerance" is to distinguish the "tolerant" from other people. For this end, the "tolerant" will without exception choose something sick to tolerate. This way they can do something (= tolerate) that others can't. Most people are automatically excluded from the inner circle of tolerant people. When "tolerance" is clearly irrational, it needs enlightened high priests to instruct others.

If the tolerant people started to support the elements of Muslim world that are sympathetic to our values (individual liberties, human rights) they would have to admit that Western system is better than Islamic, and the Islamic system as it currently usually exists must change. This idea is naturally horrific to them, since the "tolerant" cultural relativism means that we must change and adapt. Everyone else is untouchable.

"Tolerance" is therefore mainly about the tolerant people and the problems that they have with themselves. Multiculturalism and its problems are a way for the "tolerant" to maintain a situation where their "tolerance" gets credit and it has a meaning. This means that if the object of tolerance is a group that deserves tolerance, everyone would tolerate it anyway, and tolerance could not be used for gaining points or making money. A "tolerant" person thus needs the world as it is now. Black people must be poor and criminal, and Muslims must be backwards and violent. The secular Islam is a direct threat to the tolerant Western person, since its spread would destroy the paradigms from which he gets his sense of superiority and in many cases his livelihood.

It is one thing that by sucking up to imams and appeasing terrorists and their supporters the Western elite destroys the unique society that the secular Christianity has built during the last few centuries, and leaves their children a world that is worse than the one that the silver spoon elite itself inherited. Another thing is that by supporting [Muslims who advocate violence] the Western world denies the moral standing for liberal Muslims and this way helps to keep a billion people chained to a cruel stone-age doctrine of life. A liberal Muslim considers the Western culture as an example to follow and tries to raise his own culture to the same level, but what is the Western reaction? "The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh, accept your place you little darkie." [1] We are doing fine, but our mental well-being requires that you are doing badly.

The whole cartoon battle is not the first and definitely not the last station on the trip to hell. It has been illuminating, since the question of what "real Islam" is like has been answered. Muslims riot, burn and threaten, and their highest authorities consider it to be justified. The Western elite follows the Muslim authorities, does not condemn Muslim violence and demands that Denmark should apologize. According to "real Islam" violence seems to be justified. The claim that "real Islam" is not a violent religion can be true only if the Western nations consciously support and understand "false Islam".

http://sixteenvolts.blogspot.com/2006/02/pure-rubidium.html

69 posted on 02/05/2006 7:52:22 PM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I've been waiting for this. Thanks for posting the whole thing.

L

70 posted on 02/05/2006 8:05:09 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: Spok

Keep drawing pictures of "mo" and thereby provoking the mohammedans. They obviously have nothing interesting to do but riot and when they get tired of doing that maybe they will discover revolution and turn eventually to some more rational way of being-in-the-world!


71 posted on 02/05/2006 8:13:09 PM PST by mathurine (ua)
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To: joonbug
I'm sorry, I don't agree. With free speech comes responsibility. There was NO good reason to print those cartoons. It was disrespectful to Muslims and was an obvious attempt to incite them. We should respect each other's religions whether we like the religion or not.

That said, the response to the cartoons is completely outrageous and over the top and is coloring the opinion of many people about their publishing. It is also educating many people regarding the irrationality of many Muslims and the nature of the enemy, which may prove beneficial in the long run.

72 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:49 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
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To: mewzilla
IMHO, this was the best Steyn ever.
73 posted on 02/06/2006 9:53:24 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MarMema

bump this terrific read!!


74 posted on 02/06/2006 11:04:22 AM PST by MarMema (Buy Danish, support freedom)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Mark Steyn is brilliant as usual, even when he states the obvious. The problem is many people are afraid to state the obvious.

You're right. "Stating the obvious", when it comes to islam, is "hurtful," "offensive," and hazardous to one's health. Time to stand up to these obnoxious losers. Cartoons everywhere!

75 posted on 02/06/2006 11:08:46 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: joonbug

I just reposted this.
I did a search for the title but didnt see this posted.

strange


76 posted on 02/06/2006 11:29:44 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: joonbug
One day the British foreign secretary will wake up and discover that, in practice, there's very little difference between living under Exquisitely Refined Multicultural Sensitivity and Sharia. As a famously sensitive Dane once put it, "To be or not to be, that is the question."

So true...

77 posted on 02/06/2006 11:47:36 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

The latest is protests in Auckland, New Zealand...


78 posted on 02/06/2006 4:44:50 PM PST by joonbug
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