BRITISH JOURNALIST EYE-WITNESSED OSAMA BIN LADEN ENTERING ALIJA IZETBEGOVIC’S OFFICE IN SARAJEVO

www.slobodan-milosevic.org ^ | February 3, 2006 | Andy Wilcoxson

[tgambill]

"By and large there is nothing to show that the Muslim world cared what happened to Bosnia."

****** The Muslims moved into Bosnia big time as NGO charity organizations. Most if not all of the Islamic Charity organizations were fronts for Al Qaeda. This is confirmed as one such organization was found even in Oregon last year....(Al haramain). We trained Muh. along with Croatian rebel forces to fight the Serbs in Operation Storm. Included in this group was fighters from the middle east as well.

"But the Iranians were probably motivated not by ideas of Muslim solidarity, but by the fact that Saddam Hussein, their enemy, was Milosevic's friend and ally."

******The Iranians were motivated by both reasons. They had fighters and interests of Muslim solidarity as well. As the Islamic Caliapth includes the Balkans. Remember the Ottomans?

The true story of the Serbian communist was that they were fighting the Muslims to preserve FRY from the expansion of Islam in much the same way we are.

As Milosevic allowed paramilitaries to roam free and committ a certain amount of war crimes, they did not come even close to doing what the Clinton Admin. and UN claimed. Many of the stories were fabricated, massacre sites were fabricated and nothing was as the invading forces claimed by any stretch of the imagination.

the part about OBL being there is possible as this coincides with many other reports over the years and during that time. Her report is only one of many related reports from unrelated and varied sources. You can believe that he visited Albania and Bosnia.

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"Thus she tells us that the Kosovo Albanians fled because they were afraid of the KLA and the NATO bombing."

***** The K-Albanians fled for many reasons. The Serbs did commit crimes as evidenced by the Serbian government, today convicting perps of their war crimes unlike ICTY and the Hague. The K-Albanians also fled due to false claims by the KLA that more crimes were being conducted than was true. The KLA was also murdering Albanians that they thought colaborated with the Serbs or for not participating in the ruse. Many outright lies were told about the massacres and crimes being committed by the Serbs. The testimony used to justify our or NATO's entrance into the Balkans cannot be trusted by any means. Reference Holbrookes speech in 1998 concerning the KLA and Independent Kosovo verses after 2002. I can reference all that I am writing after Tuesday, as I am away from home until then.

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"Why then did the Serbs not flee although they had as least as much reason to be afraid as the Albanians; and why did the Albanians flee to Albania and not away from it?"

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***** I'm not sure I understand this point completely. The Serbs didn't flee because they didn't have a reason to flee. Milosevic was "protecting" the Serbs in Kosovo. To the Serbs in Kosovo, ole Milo was a hero, exactly like Clinton is a hero to the K-Albanians for their "liberation" from the Serbian rule. The Albanians had many reasons to flee to a safe areas....Albania, Macedonia, Montegnegro, Europe, U.S. etc....due to KLA lies that the Serbs were murdering by the thousands which was not true, NATO bombing, and the savagery of the KLA as well. This is true. I learned much of this my five years there from 1999 to 2004.

So, your comment about the Albanians fleeing from Albania, I don't understand. Osama offered to help the Albanians fight Serbia. We offered our help as we did in Bosnia, Croatia, etc...and the KLA chose us......Americans and NATO to help. However, at the same time, Muh. came to fight as well for the KLA. Interesting friends we have wouldn't you say. This is also true.......

[tgambill]

The war is against the Communist and Muslim extremist by proponents of the New World Order. Both the communist and Muslims are obstacles to this goal. We have gotten close to the Muslims and are trying to separate their loyalities as well as they are trying to do the same to us.....

Old slick and Hillary, are part of a socialist agenda since 1973 formally. The two obstacles to this agenda is communism and Islam....

[Stonewall Jackson]

Thanks for the info. I'll check my source and get back with you.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I don't know much about this New World Order. I have heard about the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs, and the Council on Foreign relations. Is that what you are talking about? If so, so far I have not seen much evidence of it and I have a lot of questions about it. Care to enlighten me?

[tgambill]

yes....I can....I'm not home right now. I can give you more info after tuesday after I return to my home. And yes the Bilderburgs, CFR...etc...however, in a lot of these issues you always have the extremist either left or right wing. It does tie in a lot of issues including the Balkans. I was very cautious about this concept until I left Kosovo and saw the incredible hoax that was generated right under our noses concerning our entrance into Yugoslavia early on. This put the pieces in place and convinced me about the NWO......

[tgambill]

This entire article is believable and in many cases true. The only controversial issue is the visit of Osama to the Balkans. However, many sources have stated this to be true. Other sources stated that OBL had a Bosnian Muslims passport. Muh did participate with the rebel forces in Bosnia and Croatia, so, it would fit.

Thanks for the article as it also mentions the efforts made by the KLA to organize the alleged massacres of civilians.

Tom

[DTA]

You have asked very valid questions and you deserve to get valid answers.

Your statement #1: "By and large there is nothing to show that the Muslim world cared what happened to Bosnia. The only exception I know of was the Iranian government, which sent arms to the Bosnians. But the Iranians were probably motivated not by ideas of Muslim solidarity, but by the fact that Saddam Hussein, their enemy, was Milosevic's friend and ally."

Saudis did care very much. They spent several billion dollars proping up Bosnian Muslim government and buying weapons for them. Saudi humanitarian efforts were also way to finance Al Qaeda network. Bosnian humanitarian financing was a Saudi money laundering scheme to finance AL Qaeda undetected. Search FR under GOLDENCHAIN. Also, as a major buyer of U.S. weapons sysstems Saudi wishes were listened carefully in Clinton's WH and Pentagon. They managed to get USAF do the dirty job for them and Clinton administration to work as an agent of their own. At the same time, CIA was busy assisting Iranians in setting up their network in Bosnia.

Iranians saw an opportunity to install their network in the heart of Europe. And with CIA providing the cargo planes and blanket of security, why not? You have heard of this, don't you?

Your statement #2 : There seem to be two different and contradictory stories of the Serbian Communists. The first has them hailing the Islamists as heroes and comrades; the second has them claiming, fantastically, to be fighting for Christianity.

Politics makes strange bedfellows. Saddam was a SOB and POS but he was no Islamist.

His regime was mix of personality cult socialism and fascism, but it was secular, not islamic.

There is no contradiction. Serbia fought Islamists in her own yard while cooperating with a secular Muslim regime. (Gadafi was also friend of Slobo's regime)

Your claim #3: You ask what part I don't believe; the answer is, indeed, pretty near all of it. I am suspicious of Ms. Prentice's eagerness to tell exactly the story most favorable to Milosevic. For certain I don't believe the bit about Osama bin Laden - she's a reporter, so why didn't we hear about it then?

Do you know that it is the owners and editors who choose what is fit to print. Not reporters. Btw. OBL sighting in Sarajevo was reported by Germnan journalist as soon as it happened.

Your statement #4 : Some of her points are contradicted by ample testimony, some defy logic. Thus she tells us that the Kosovo Albanians fled because they were afraid of the KLA and the NATO bombing. Why then did the Serbs not flee although they had as least as much reason to be afraid as the Albanians; and why did the Albanians flee to Albania and not away from it? Some Kosovo Albanians chose to follow KLA directive and leave for Albania. Some others moved from the border area where the heaviest bombardment was taking place and moved inwards, i.e. toward Serbia. And guess what happened? Both columns were hit by NATO bombs. In each column there were more than 100 dead Albanians. NATO propaganda went so far to claim that Serbian jet flew under the fuselage of an American jet and dropped bombs undetected (!)

Albanians got the message - if they refuse to follow KLA line, they will be bombed by NATO

If the 'genocide" was taking place in Kosovo, why Albanians chose to go to Montenegro where Serbian Army also operated? (media made perception that Montenegro was another country, while it was not)

So, what is your next question?

[DTA]

I stand by any statement I have made on previous post. Here is only a flavor of the available documents. Saudi money laundering through Bosnia Muslim charities:

GOLDENCHAIN

ARNAOUT CASE

IRANGATE II - JOINT CIA AND IRANIAN OPERATION

"But our alignment with Iran, even if it was a passive and accidental alignment, was very dangerous. Every President since Jimmy Carter has declared a state of emergency with respect to Iran, and United States laws and Executive orders have embargoed imports from Iran, limited United States exports to Iran, banned United States trade and investment in Iran including the trading of Iranian oil overseas by United States companies or their foreign affiliates, and placed sanctions on persons or countries who supply Iran with any goods or technologies that could contribute to Iran getting destabilizing conventional weapons or any weapons of mass destruction technology. These laws and Executive orders are there for a reason: to contain and isolate a country which conducts and supports terrorism and attempts to proliferate nuclear and chemical weapons. A policy which depends on such an amoral country to arm the otherwise defenseless Bosnian Moslems is dangerous--not merely politically dangerous, but potentially threatening to our allies and eventually to our own forces, when they deployed a year later. To turn a blind eye to Iranian shipments is to turn a blind eye to the possibility of United States casualties at the hands of the very people we have allowed to be armed, especially with a United States deployment imminent."

BOMBING OF ALBANIAN REFUGEES

[getoffmylawn]

Just to get you up to apeed, Torie = Hoplite's ball washer. It's a shame he can't help him with that slice.

[tgambill]

:)) this is amazing.....lolol... Thanks...Tom

[tgambill]

This is news to me....thanks for the reference.

[finnigan2]

Clintoon's excellent Bosnian adventure was a complete cock up from beginning to end.
What do you expect from a President who gave orders on troop deployment while being serviced by an intern?
After more than a decade, US troops are still there (some exit strategy, eh guys)
If you Google the information you will find that after more than ten years of following leads and digging up mass graves for war crime trials, the UN unit responsible for tallying up the 500,000 + civilian deaths (Clintoon's hysterical estimate) they have found about 15,000 to 20,000 confirmed graves - whether they are all from one side or the other of this conflict, who knows?
The MSM has covered Clintoon's ass in this debacle in a way that they would never do for Bush.

[montyspython]

"Torie = Hoplite's ball washer. It's a shame he can't help him with that slice."

Press! Press!

[getoffmylawn]

Good stuff from you, as usual.

[Stonewall Jackson]

Oops. I checked my book again and you are right. It was a Special Forces patrol that ran into trouble. The captain leading the patrol was a guy named Mike Ranger, so that's where my mind was mixing things up.

[Hoplite]

Cool.

But that leaves the KIA part. If anybody was killed, they'd be listed on the SOF Memorial.

As far as I've been able to find out, the Army hasn't lost anybody to hostile action in Bosnia in the 10 years we've been there. What book are your using as a source?

[Stonewall Jackson]

The book was Forged By Fire: The Shattering of Yugoslavia and the Resulting Conflicts.

It was a joint US-Bosnian patrol, so it's possible that the KIA was Bosnian, but it didn't say one way or the other. Since he was mentioned in the same sentence as the US wounded, I assumed that he was American, but I could be wrong.

[joan]

A New York Times article, posted on FreeRepublic in October 2003, says a German magazine reported on Osama's visit to Izetbegovic:

Alija Izetbegovic, Muslim Who Led Bosnia, Dies at 78 (was Nazi, al-Qaeda and Shariah polygamist)

Mr. Izetbegovic turned increasingly to Islamic states, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Libya, for assistance. Osama bin Laden visited him in Sarajevo in 1993 and sponsored some fighters from Arabic countries to fight on the Muslims' side in Bosnia, according to a report in the German magazine Der Spiegel.

[joan]

See the above post.