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Panama agriculture minister resigns over US talks ("free trade" vs food safety)
Reuters ^ | Jan 10, 2006 | Doug Palmer

Posted on 01/29/2006 11:44:09 AM PST by hedgetrimmer

PANAMA CITY (Reuters) - Panama's agriculture minister resigned on Tuesday, alleging that a proposed free trade deal with the United States could expose the country to bird flu, foot and mouth disease and mad cow disease.

Laurentino Cortizo told President Martin Torrijos he feared Panama could be forced to ignore its own food health standards in a free trade deal with Washington.

"It worries me enormously that a relaxing of the sanitary measures could put the health and lives of Panamanians at risk," he said in his resignation letter, a copy of which was seen by Reuters.

"Have you analyzed the cost to the country and its producers to recover from a disease such as ... foot and mouth disease, mad cow disease and bird flu?," he said.

The minister's resignation came as negotiators from both countries began three days of talks in Washington in the hopes of finishing work on the free trade pact.

U.S. agriculture officials denied the trade agreement could expose Panama to increased animal diseases.

"There are no grounds to the assertions made by the minister," said Terri Teuber, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Agriculture Department. "There's nothing about a free trade agreement, and this free trade agreement in particular, that would weaken food safety standards."

Instead, trade agreements strengthen food safety rules by harmonizing them with international standards, Teuber said.

"The bottom line is the U.S. has one of the safest food systems in the world," she said.

Cortizo also suggested the trade deal could hurt the livelihoods of thousands of rural Panamanians.

The free trade talks started in 2003 but snagged last year on Panama's concerns that tariff-free access to its agricultural markets could hit farmers - particularly pork, chicken and rice producers.

The other nations of Central America have already drawn up a free trade deal with Washington that was due to start on January 1, although its implementation has been delayed.

As Panama's economy is predominantly service-based with a strong maritime and banking sector, it opted to negotiate a separate deal with the United States.

Panama says it exported $433 million of goods to the United States in 2004, around half of its total exports. It imported around $1.8 billion of U.S. goods in the same year.

Critics of the proposed trade deal seized on Cortizo's resignation. "Our health measures are, in a lot of respects, better than those of the United States," said Alexis Soto, an economist with the National Agricultural Organization farm group.

A protest of farm workers was planned for Tuesday afternoon in Panama.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birdflu; cafta; codexalimentarius; foodsafety; footandmouth; freetrade; ftaa; madcow; nafta; tagging
"It worries me enormously that a relaxing of the sanitary measures could put the health and lives of Panamanians at risk," he said in his resignation letter, a copy of which was seen by Reuters.
1 posted on 01/29/2006 11:44:12 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: freepatriot32; GreenFreeper; Justanobody; B4Ranch; Nowhere Man; Coleus; neutrino; endthematrix; ...

FYI

"free trade" clearly aims to disrupt domestic food supply systems.


2 posted on 01/29/2006 11:46:33 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Panama's agriculture minister resigned on Tuesday, alleging that a proposed free trade deal with the United States could expose the country to bird flu, foot and mouth disease and mad cow disease.

Free trade will not be denied.

3 posted on 01/29/2006 11:50:20 AM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole
Free trade will not be denied.

Not for the moment, maybe in another ten years when its full "benefits" begin to sink in.

4 posted on 01/29/2006 12:08:39 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: hedgetrimmer
Do I understand this guy right? He's afraid of foot and mouth from the U.S.? Not to play on words, but this is pure political hogwash.

Muleteam1

5 posted on 01/29/2006 12:22:53 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Muleteam1

"free trade" is claimed or demonstrated to make inspection of possibly infected animals more difficult.


6 posted on 01/29/2006 1:56:09 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I worked in agricultural inspection in a major port city for a few years and, although free trade can't override inspections and/or treatments required under existing import and export regulations, it can affect the development of any new regs. Unless there is something new in the veterinarian world that I have not heard, foot and mouth was last seen in the U.S. in 1929. The argument that Panama should be concerned about foot and mouth from the U.S. is irrational and most likely political.

Muleteam1

7 posted on 01/29/2006 2:33:27 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: hedgetrimmer

Panama need only worry about the displacement of its farmers for American based Fortune 500 "Agribusiness." Its a trend for even American agriculture to be outsourced.


8 posted on 01/29/2006 2:50:45 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Foot and Mouth - that's laughable. Meanwhile consumers in the US have had to contend with vegetables from Mexico fertilized with human waste.
9 posted on 01/29/2006 3:25:00 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: junta

What do you think is a more productive method of agriculture, 40 acres and a mule or 12 hectares and a burro?


10 posted on 01/29/2006 3:50:53 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

In ag the word "productive" is quite expansive in definition. For ex; I raise tomatoes but store bought are cheaper in price but then add in the intangibles such as taste, safety, self satisifaction of raising one's own and the equation jumps in size. But then again I tend to side with the "hippie farmers" versus the agribusiness types anyway.


11 posted on 01/29/2006 4:43:02 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: junta
Its a trend for even American agriculture to be outsourced.

Its a demand for the "free traders" at the WTO, which our home grown "free traders" are eager to comply.

There is a demand to eliminate high dollar agriculture in the US by these freakin' globalist 'economists'.

A key demand of African cotton producers was met by the commitment to end cotton export subsidies by 2006, though the U.S. would have to do this anyway as a result of losing the recent WTO panel ruling against the cotton regime.

Now no African cotton producer should have so much sway over US producers, d'ya think? Especially since our government is supposed to protect individual rights, not kowtow to the globalist soviet style politics of the WTO. American citizens may decide what they want with cotton export subsidies, but NO OTHER COUNTRY should be able to make demands like this and set the time table to boot.
12 posted on 01/29/2006 4:55:40 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: A. Pole

I'm not all that confident about the quality of food grown in third world countries, myself.

If Free Traders have their way on this, it might effect more than just the country's economic health.


13 posted on 01/29/2006 5:05:04 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: hedgetrimmer

But it all depends on cheap transportaion. It is said that the average food product on the shelves travels 1500 miles before it hits the consumer, but I doubt such arrangements will work out as well in the throes of Peak Oil. IMHO Agribusiness in this country is a huge joke. Its having farmers stand in line for a subsidy payment which they then turn over to a creditor which then constitutes a profit at the Fortune 500 level.


14 posted on 01/29/2006 5:06:26 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: junta
Actually, I was referring to sustinance farming.

To be honest, I don't know much about Panama, but I tend to perceive all of the latin america countries as having a substantial number doing that.

However difficult sustinance farming may or may not be, it is not very productive and makes it difficult to feed the nation.

There is a degree of romanticism with those operations tho. The reality is that Juan Valdez quit growing coffee beans long ago because he couldn't compete. Instead, he now grows coca.

15 posted on 01/29/2006 5:17:09 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: junta
But then again I tend to side with the "hippie farmers" versus the agribusiness types anyway.

Good thing we don't have to rely on "hippie farmers" to feed 300 million people.

16 posted on 01/29/2006 8:21:33 PM PST by Mase
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To: hedgetrimmer

That and free trade is largely an animal of the WTO in the forms it takes. WTO will not allow member nations to dissallow imports based on possibilities of contamination. Precaution is not allowed to be an impediment to trade. So, say if you have a lot of bad food and want to sell it but there's no proof it's bad.. you sell it and the buyer is stuck. In all likelyhood, the minister's resignation was well founded based on current policy and trade practice via the WTO.


17 posted on 01/29/2006 8:35:21 PM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Mase
Good thing we don't have to rely on "hippie farmers" to feed 300 million people.

Since the WTO and the UN are pushing this type of agriculture, it won't be long until we do have to rely on "hippie farmers" for our food. Hippie farmers who don't own any land I might add.

Its called "sustainable farming practices", a subsidiary of their plan for "sustainable development"
18 posted on 01/29/2006 9:01:59 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Mase

GOSPLAN couldn't have said it better.


19 posted on 01/30/2006 5:48:50 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: junta
GOSPLAN couldn't have said it better

There are, by definition, two million farms in the US. The vast majority of farms in this country (90%) are owned and operated by individuals or families. The next largest category of ownership is partnerships (6%). The “Corporate” farms account for only 3% of U.S. farms and 90% of those are family owned. There are still a lot of small farmers out there making a good living from farming.

Unfortunately for those who idealize the hippie farmer and his divinity with the land, less than 50,000 of all those farms account for more than 50% of sales of agricultural products. The trend is toward concentration in agricultural production so that the necessary efficiencies can be achieved to produce the incredible amount of food demanded by domestic and foreign markets at competitive prices.

Some people who don't understand how markets work -- all the government interference advocated by some here notwithstanding -- think that this is really some kind of conspiracy to place food production under the control of others (GOSPLAN?). Tin foilers willingly believe in all sorts of things it seems, except markets.

20 posted on 01/30/2006 8:13:29 AM PST by Mase
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To: Muleteam1

"foot and mouth was last seen in the U.S. in 1929"

Really? I saw an example last Friday on the Senate floor.


21 posted on 01/30/2006 8:18:04 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: toddlintown
No, what you saw was the disease called Foot In Mouth. It's a close relative to the disease called Head Up A__.

Muleteam1

22 posted on 01/30/2006 9:35:26 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Mase

Stick your "tin foilers." And it is all done with subsidy that ends up in a corparations pocket. Without the subsidy the corn and bean racket bellies up the "family" farmer goes to work as a greeter and the corparation cuts out the middle man and farms millions of acres for greater "effiencies." Which will be so important to America that it will become a synthesis of government and business otherwise known as Facism, price setting on a scale that the legacy air carries could have only wished for. I'll take the "hippie" Amish farmer and others who realize farming is a cultural based undertaking versus the industrial model anyday. I grew up on a farm in the Illinois I know the racket.


23 posted on 01/30/2006 12:09:24 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: junta
And it is all done with subsidy that ends up in a corparations pocket.

80% of all farm welfare ends up in the hands of the large farming cooperatives. They use the money to undercut the smaller farmers or to buy them out. It's a travesty that should be corrected.

Without the subsidy the corn and bean racket bellies up the "family" farmer goes to work as a greeter and the corparation cuts out the middle man and farms millions of acres for greater "effiencies.

Small family farms will have a hard time surviving unless they are successful in filling a niche. For the American farmer to compete worldwide, there will continue to be consolidation to achieve greater productivity.

Which will be so important to America that it will become a synthesis of government and business otherwise known as Fascism,

With 50,000 farms producing about 50% of the total production, I'd say we're a long way from any oligopoly, like the legacy carriers, or anything that can remotely be construed as Fascism. You and I will be long gone before anything like that can occur so you might want to remove the tin foil in the meantime. You'll be much more comfortable.

I'll take the "hippie" Amish farmer and others who realize farming is a cultural based undertaking versus the industrial model anyday

Not if you want to feed 300 million domestically and compete in the international market.

I grew up on a farm in the Illinois I know the racket.

Then you should know better. No excuses.

24 posted on 01/30/2006 1:30:19 PM PST by Mase
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To: Mase

You might want to rethink the pace in which consolidation is happening. As it has happened in my lifetime 42 years I have seen farms go from one section (640 acres) to no less than 2000 acres as large. With interest rate and subsidy changes these indebted land hogs would vanish faster than you think into larger better capitalized integrated corporations. If you think the Andreas/Dole connection is sleazy that is nothing compared to collective agribusiness that would happen once the family corporation is ingested by the multinationals.


25 posted on 01/30/2006 2:03:59 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Its called "sustainable farming practices", a subsidiary of their plan for "sustainable development"

Well if current farming practices rely heavily on petrochemicals for fertilizer, pesticides, and weed control and oil is a finite resource, then development of sustainable farming practices makes sense.

26 posted on 01/31/2006 7:04:58 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

"Sustainable" means nothing more than the central control of resources. The soviet union ran on such an organization. "Sustainable development" was created by Gro Harlem Brundtland, head of the World Socialist Party, in her Brundtland commission, and was adopted as policy by the UN. It came to the United States through Bush Sr and Bill Clinton. No free people should ever consider that sustainable development or sustainable farming has any legitimacy in a free world.


27 posted on 01/31/2006 7:11:03 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

bottom line here is that 'free traders' do not brook dissent. Multinationals want borderless trade and uniform trade laws, period.


28 posted on 02/27/2006 5:54:17 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
Multinationals want borderless trade and uniform trade laws, period.

Wanna see a perfect example? The UAE ports deal.
29 posted on 02/27/2006 7:44:55 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO and the trade-law origins of the EU are better examples of this I think.


30 posted on 02/27/2006 7:54:35 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Foreign governments got access to our ports first through an OECD initiative that was reinforced when the WTO (vehicle for CAFTA and the FTAA) was created.


31 posted on 02/27/2006 8:06:52 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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