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LIVE SENATE THREAD: C-span 2 - Noon EST; "Suppose the Dems throw a filabuster and NOBODY comes?"
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Posted on 01/27/2006 8:38:03 AM PST by ken5050

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To: Semper Paratus

I have no idea


41 posted on 01/27/2006 9:08:14 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: pollywog
how many votes to filibuster?

41.

42 posted on 01/27/2006 9:09:04 AM PST by Christian4Bush (More than 3000 people lost their "civil liberties" on September 11, 2001.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

It's exasperating watching the liberals drag this out, but at least Judge Alito will finally be confirmed. That's what counts. And if the liberals are damaging the Democrat Party with all of their histrionics, then it's worth waiting them out.


43 posted on 01/27/2006 9:09:33 AM PST by American Quilter
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To: ken5050
Didn't the Dems make a deal not to filibuster? Hmmm.....
44 posted on 01/27/2006 9:09:38 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; Mo1

hey , perhaps Lurch will lapse into his "down home" mode

... recall,if you will, the hunting license request

..."HEY, is this where I do'me a filibuster'in ,..?"


45 posted on 01/27/2006 9:09:53 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: Peach

Guess it's good for us then that he isn't a senator, so he doesn't get a vote....


46 posted on 01/27/2006 9:09:59 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mo1; ken5050; All

Reid Admits Defeat (Kinda Sorta)
[Jonathan Adler 01/27 12:12 PM]

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid has acknowledged that the Senate Democrats lack the votes to block Judge Alito's confirmation. Reid recently told reporters that "Everyone knows there is [sic] not enough votes to support a filibuster." However, the effort still has merit because, Reid Said, "I think it is an opportunity for people to express their opinion as to what a bad choice it was to replace Sandra Day O'Connor" with Alito.


47 posted on 01/27/2006 9:11:03 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: Mo1
"Sessions .. cloture vote on Monday at 4:30 pm .. with a vote on Tuesday at 11am (??)

That is what Frist specified yesterday.

48 posted on 01/27/2006 9:12:12 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hipaatwo

Reid is giving the loony libs fals hope


49 posted on 01/27/2006 9:12:47 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Kerry would probably just bring in servants and flunkies to filibuster for him. Privilege of the wealthy, you know.

I'm not sure of the current rules, but under the old rules, only 1 Senator could do a filibuster and he/she had to continue speaking to maintain the filibuster. The speaker/filibuster-er could be interrupted for questions by other Senators, but was not allowed to relinquish the floor. The filibuster would continue only as long as the speaker/filibuster-er could continue to speak -- and he/she had to be standing during the speaking. Once the speaker ceased, business proceeded as usual (meaning, the vote occurred).
50 posted on 01/27/2006 9:13:04 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: michigander; ken5050

Normally, in the absense of a UC to the contrary, they WOULD have 30 hours of debate after the cloture VOTE, and the cloture vote would take place on the next day save one, meaning it would be on Saturday, allowing 30 hours of debate by tuesday.

The democrats (actually, the entire senate) agreed by UNANIMOUS CONSENT to limit the post-cloture debate to an hour or two on tuesday morning, in exchange for scheduling the cloture vote for monday afternoon instead of saturday.

The UC overrides the 30-hour rule. And to change it back, they would need a UC, which the republicans would reject.

I believe however that Reid could, if he really wanted to be snooty, call another of those "secret sessions" just before the vote, which would delay the vote another couple of hours.


51 posted on 01/27/2006 9:13:57 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ken5050
they are on the 30 hour clock already..Monday afternoon is the earliest it can occur..

The 30 hour clock is the default, AFTER cloture passes. The interval between filing the motion and voting on the motion is "the following day but one, one hour after the Senate opens." All of that can be modified by UC, which is what we have here. The times certain for two votes have been set by UC.

52 posted on 01/27/2006 9:14:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Dad yer funny

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 01/27/2006 9:14:45 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Bush_Democrat

At the time of Mr Smith, I don't think they had cloture votes. At least they didn't bring it up in the movie -- and there was NOBODY who supported smith there, so he would have lost a cloture vote.


54 posted on 01/27/2006 9:15:26 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mo1

LOL..Will Pitt on DU today threw in the towel. Told them realistically they don't have the numbers for a filibuster.


Cool..Sessions is pissed!


55 posted on 01/27/2006 9:15:29 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Sessions: The former democratic candidate for President who DID NOT WIN, is apparently flying in from Davos to support a filibuster!!

LOL GO Senator Sessions!

56 posted on 01/27/2006 9:16:10 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hipaatwo

Cool..Sessions is pissed!


Hehehe, yes he is. I love him.


57 posted on 01/27/2006 9:17:14 AM PST by Lovergirl (Yes! It's true. I am a SnowFlake.)
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To: Semper Paratus

It expires in early february, not february first.


58 posted on 01/27/2006 9:17:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TomGuy

Kerry just doing this so he can hear himself talk for hours on end.


59 posted on 01/27/2006 9:17:56 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: ken5050
they are on the 30 hour clock already

I don't believe that to be correct.

Rule XXII

2. Notwithstanding the provisions of rule II or rule IV or any other rule of the Senate, at any time a motion signed by sixteen Senators, to bring to a close the debate upon any measure, motion, other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, is presented to the Senate, the Presiding Officer, or clerk at the direction of the Presiding Officer, shall at once state the motion to the Senate, and one hour after the Senate meets on the following calendar day but one, he shall lay the motion before the Senate and direct that the clerk call the roll, and upon the ascertainment that a quorum is present, the Presiding Officer shall, without debate, submit to the Senate by a yea-and-nay vote the question:

"Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?" And if that question shall be decided in the affirmative by three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn -- except on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, in which case the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and voting -- then said measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, shall be the unfinished business to the exclusion of all other business until disposed of.

Thereafter no Senator shall be entitled to speak in all more than one hour on the measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, the amendments thereto, and motions affecting the same, and it shall be the duty of the Presiding Officer to keep the time of each Senator who speaks. Except by unanimous consent, no amendment shall be proposed after the vote to bring the debate to a close, unless it had been submitted in writing to the Journal Clerk by 1 o'clock p.m. on the day following the filing of the cloture motion if an amendment in the first degree, and unless it had been so submitted at least one hour prior to the beginning of the cloture vote if an amendment in the second degree. No dilatory motion, or dilatory amendment, or amendment not germane shall be in order. Points of order, including questions of relevancy, and appeals from the decision of the Presiding Officer, shall be decided without debate.

After no more than thirty hours of consideration of the measure, motion, or other matter on which cloture has been invoked, the Senate shall proceed, without any further debate on any question, to vote on the final disposition thereof to the exclusion of all amendments not then actually pending before the Senate at that time and to the exclusion of all motions, except a motion to table, or to reconsider and one quorum call on demand to establish the presence of a quorum (and motions required to establish a quorum) immediately before the final vote begins. The thirty hours may be increased by the adoption of a motion, decided without debate, by a threefifths affirmative vote of the Senators duly chosen and sworn, and any such time thus agreed upon shall be equally divided between and controlled by the Majority and Minority Leaders or their designees. However, only one motion to extend time, specified above, may be made in any one calendar day.

60 posted on 01/27/2006 9:18:38 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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