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Breaking on FNC: Iranian Children used as human chain around nuclear facility
Fox News Channel

Posted on 01/22/2006 10:35:24 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2

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To: AlGone2001
Yes, and so did the moderator.

By 'easier targeting' it means that determing the target would be easier.

Besides, if Iran puts every one of their children into a nuke facility and we blow it up, it is still 100% their responsibility and we can not be afraid to act. We must limit collateral damage as much as possible but if we allow their actions to disuade us from our targets, guess what will be the terrorists new weapon?

Just like the Alito strip-search issue. If for some reason, 10 year old girls were off limits to strip searching, what do you think would happen to 10 year old girls within reach of a narco terrorist?

441 posted on 01/23/2006 1:54:16 PM PST by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: Uncle Jaque

Looks like the KKK does a bombing run. Poor kid.


442 posted on 01/23/2006 2:01:49 PM PST by madison10
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

You'd have to ask Jim Robinson. I visited the home page to check out the name and saw it has banned/suspended on it, which is the extent of my information. I'm a newbie.

Do you know why?


443 posted on 01/23/2006 2:19:40 PM PST by FARS
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To: cricket

That said. . .all of Europe is waiting, of course, for us to do it. . .and quickly.

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Yep, Europe and Persia is going to get a big punch of "tough love," courtesy of the US Armed Forces.


444 posted on 01/23/2006 3:19:15 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Enemy #1 = The Leftist holy trinity of multiculturalism, moral equivalence and relativism.)
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To: Americanexpat
I have seen more of war than most people posting on this thread and the last thing I want to see happen is the killing of children. Evidently the president of Iran and his cronies don't feel the same way.

Since they do not have effective means(yet) to strike at our bodies, they aim to strike at our souls

445 posted on 01/23/2006 3:27:07 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Beagle8U
That would set off WW3 in the Mideast if Israel did it.

It's already WW3 there.

446 posted on 01/23/2006 3:32:08 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Governments want to copy all the data on you in existence, but will prosecute you for an mp3 copied.)
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To: America's Resolve
No. The Haj to Mecca is one of the 5 Pillars of Islam. Without it, they don't get to paradise. Hard to make a pilgrimige to a nuclear wasteland.

A Muslim is excused if he is too poor to finance the journey, or if his health would not permit it. Making the environment lethal would simply excuse all Muslims from the requirement.

Now, taking the area and saturating the ground with pig blood...

447 posted on 01/23/2006 4:08:49 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: DCPatriot

Me: Actually, the IRanian people are overwhelmingly pro USA.

You: Uh-huh....they said the same thing about the Iraqi people.


Iran is a completely different culture. You have to understand this, the Iranians are more like Europeans. They aren't Arab. And they aren't at all like Iraqis, the Iranians are an educated people. They were once westernized.

The Iranians had some freedom under the Shah. They were westernized then. By the way, we installed the Shah.

But absolute power corrupts absolutely and the Shah started restricting freedoms ect. What most of the Iranian people wanted was a full fledged democracy, so they overthrew the Shah in the 70s. Unfortunately, then the Mullahs came to power and freedom was restricted further.

The Iranian people are not at all like the small faction of religiouse fanatics who control them. If we invaded Iran, I guarantee Iranian people would be cheering in the streets.

Unlike Iraq, Iran is a more civilized society. And they're educated.


448 posted on 01/23/2006 4:28:38 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Unlike Iraq, Iran is a more civilized society. And they're educated.

Calling Iraq a backwater country and it's citizens less civilized and uneducated would make you a racist in the eyes of an Iraqi.

Wouldn't it?

From this Freeper's point of view, any citizen that would allow this character to be elected president of Iran has to bear the responsibility...so, so much for education and being "more civilized".

You essentially are claiming that the great country of Iran has been taken over by their mafia. i don't buy it.

449 posted on 01/23/2006 4:35:24 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: pepperhead
I haven't read through the entire post yet, someone may have mentioned thanking Jimmy Carter for this...his failure at not supporting the Shah of Iran and allowing the fanatic mullahs back into Iran laid the foundation for this. Thanks Jimmy!!
450 posted on 01/23/2006 4:54:40 PM PST by momf (Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all . T Roosevelt)
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To: DCPatriot
The Iranian elections were just about as fair as when the Iraqis elected Saddam. Point is, they weren't really elections. Those elections were manipulated. President Bush even denounced them, see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/16/AR2005061601056.html ""Calling Iraq a backwater country and it's citizens less civilized and uneducated would make you a racist in the eyes of an Iraqi."" Well then, what the hell is it? It's true.
451 posted on 01/23/2006 5:12:28 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Calling minority inhabited projects in any American city "less civilized and uneducated" is also the truth...but you can't say that.

...that is, unless your last name is Nagin.

452 posted on 01/23/2006 5:16:00 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: fallujah-nuker

You really believe we're going to use nukes to stop them from getting nukes?

Get real.


453 posted on 01/23/2006 6:46:05 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Iscool; NRA2BFree

Check out these articles about Barnes Wallis' earthquake bombs of WWII.

http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/staff/irmurray/bigbounc.asp

"...Tallboy's sleek shape enabled it to gain as much speed as possible during its fall, giving maximum penetration into the ground which was essential to maximise the earthquake effect. This speed also gave rise to a couple of problems with the design. Firstly, the ground impact at high speed meant that the casing had to be very strong to prevent it bursting open, and special metals were developed for this purpose; the weight of the case was thus a high proportion of the weight of the bomb so, despite its size, it was classed as a "medium capacity" weapon! Secondly, during trials, it was found to be inaccurate, and this was attributed to the bomb "toppling" off course as it passed through the sound barrier. Wallis solved this problem rather neatly by offsetting the bomb's tailfins; this made the bomb spin as it fell, and the gyroscopic effect prevented the toppling and thus maintained the accuracy...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunker_buster

In World War II the British designer Barnes Wallis of Bouncing bomb fame, designed two bombs that would nowadays be called bunker busters: the five ton Tallboy and the ten ton Grand Slam "Earthquake" bombs. The designs were very aerodynamic with a tail which caused them to spin. This allowed them to break the sound barrier as they fell from a height of 22,000 feet (6,700 m). They had a much stronger casings, made of high grade steels, than the typical World War II bomb so that they would survive the impact of hitting a hardened surface or penetrate deep into the ground.

Though these bombs might be thought of as 'bunker busters' today, in fact the original 'earthquake' theory was more complex and subtle than simply penetrating a hardened surface. The Earthquake bombs were designed not to strike a target directly, but to impact beside it, penetrate under it, and create a 'camoflet' or large buried cavern at the same time as delivering a shock wave through the target's foundations. The target then collapses into the hole, no matter how hardened it may be. The bombs had strong casings because they needed to travel through rock rather than re-inforced concrete, though of course they could perform equally well against hardened surfaces. In an attack on the U-Boat pens at Farge two Grand Slams went through the 23ft re-inforced concrete hardening - equalling or exceeding the best current penetration specifications.


454 posted on 01/23/2006 7:09:55 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("For those who have fought for it, Freedom bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: America's Resolve
No. The Haj to Mecca is one of the 5 Pillars of Islam. Without it, they don't get to paradise. Hard to make a pilgrimige to a nuclear wasteland.

Your response is a non-sequitur to what I said. Go back and reread.

455 posted on 01/23/2006 7:21:39 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Finalapproach29er

No, if Israel is forced to do it the only option for them is nukes. Bunker buster bombs are heavy, Israel would be forced to deliver them at long range with great precision against a heavily defended target. Nukes would give them a much greater chance of success.

The US can deliver a greater payload and we have bases and carriers that can deliver strikes from a closer distance.

If Israel is forced to go it alone she will need to decide if she values Iranian or Israeli lives more. What the hell is with number of people whining about this, it feels like this must be DU or something. It is pathetic crap, like all the folks who whine about nuclear weapons when August Sixth rolls around.

I think the fear of Israel using nukes to get the job done may be what draws the US to act. A repeat of 1973.


456 posted on 01/23/2006 7:24:01 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

You know, if we have to bomb those sites, and those kids, then we have to do it. But there's a difference between doing it out of necessity and doing it with abandon and glee. Some of the comments on this thread disturb me.


457 posted on 01/24/2006 6:27:32 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Lazamataz
I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.

And according to the environmentalists - if we keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere we will soon have a dim sun.

458 posted on 01/24/2006 6:46:42 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
It just might be worth testing the "Our God is Greater" theory of muslim faith....

That's tagline quality right there....

459 posted on 01/24/2006 10:37:39 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: Ouderkirk

If you foot note me. Use it.


460 posted on 01/24/2006 10:50:25 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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