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Fox News Watch: Gabler So Goofy on Hillary, Even Jane Hall Smirks at Him
Fox News Watch/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/21/2006 4:24:02 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

January 21, 2006 - 19:12

Q: How does a lefty media maven know when he's gone off the deep end?

A. When even fellow liberal Jane Hall laughs at him.

Neal Gabler should take the lesson to heart, because that's exactly what happened to him on tonight's Fox Media Watch.

The subject matter was the media's handling of Hillary Clinton's Plantation Declaration. Jane began with a surprisingly candid assessment of Clinton and her presidential ambitions:

"She's clearly running for President and I think the media should quit going around that fact. She's tiptoeing around that fact. The question I have was whether this was spontaneous or planned. She's been so planned - that's what she's been known for. If she reached for the race card, then that's a different context."

That's when Gabler weighed in with his risible notion that the MSM is dominated by . . . conservative spin.

"What we see here in the media coverage is the same old story. The MSM taking Republican spin points and just retailing them. It's one size fits all. If Al Gore gives a speech, if Howard Dean gives a speech, if Ray Nagin gives a speech, or if Hillary Clinton gives a speech, 'they're crazy, they're out of control, they're nuts!'"

Hey Neal, if the strait-jacket fits, wear it.

Jane tried to interject "but she [Clinton] is the one who [made the comments], Neal."

Gabler wouldn't be silenced: "Let me address that. What Hillary Clinton said - Google that, see how many Republicans including Newt Gingrich [have spoken of a plantation]."

That's when Jane literally laughed in Gabler's face as she sarcastically replied: "before a black audience on Martin Luther King Day?"

Neal, having Jane Hall laugh at you and your arguments about conservative media bias is the equivalent of a 5th-grader having his mother walk out on his piano recital. Time for reflection, Mr. Gabler.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clinton; foxnews; gopplantation; hillary; nealgabler; plantation
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1 posted on 01/21/2006 4:24:05 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Fox News Watch/NewsBusters ping to Today show ping list.


2 posted on 01/21/2006 4:24:39 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Looks like Cal Thomas shaved off his 'stache.

Makes him look younger!


3 posted on 01/21/2006 4:26:02 PM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Neal is only on the show for comic relief anyway... he was doing his job.
4 posted on 01/21/2006 4:26:54 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Neal Gabler is a joke.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 4:28:25 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Once again, Gabler shows his true idiocy, and with flying colors too! The guy is nothing but a used up old gasbag that hasn't a clue as to what in hell is going on. And then for Jane to laugh at his stupidity, that has to leave a mark or two on his ego!
6 posted on 01/21/2006 4:34:11 PM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Neal Gabler is a sick joke.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 4:40:58 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for the laugh!


8 posted on 01/21/2006 4:41:30 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

He also closed out that segment saying something similar to Republicans have no right to say anything since they have been against civil rights since the get go. Im amazed how so many liberals are allowed to say such slanderous things and not criticized.


9 posted on 01/21/2006 4:44:00 PM PST by cdawg20
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
having Jane Hall laugh at you and your arguments about conservative media bias is the equivalent of a 5th-grader having his mother walk out on his piano recital.

The only honorable option left to him is ritual suicide. I wonder if Juan Williams could lend him the knife to do the job, he's been getting slapped around for so long by the FOX crew, he has to have one "just in case."
10 posted on 01/21/2006 4:46:51 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: geezerwheezer

And the longer they keep him on the show .. the more kooky and goofy the dems/libs look and sound.

Fine with me!


11 posted on 01/21/2006 4:57:02 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I have a different opinion on this. Her heinous is making sure she gets the black vote in huge numbers in her re-election.

A few days after her plantation rant she was on a rant about us making sure Iran is disarmed. That the President has downplayed the seriousness of the Iranian situation.

That was her pander to the jews in NY.

Is there any group left that needs a pander?

12 posted on 01/21/2006 4:57:15 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
I'd like to see a show with Julian Phillips, Juan Williams and Neil Gabler.

Could be called the insanity hour.

13 posted on 01/21/2006 4:58:17 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Jane thought she too was defending Hillary when she explained to the panel. Jane said, the plantation remark was not part of Hillary's scripted speech, it came in response to a tough question from the audience. Jane might be right, I heard someone else explain it the same way, as if that makes Hillary's poor choice of words more forgiveable.

But it exposes something even worse. Hillary's inability to think on her feet. Without a script, the woman is a loose cannon. She's not ready for prime time, and will never be, has none of Bill's skills. An audience member challenged Hillary and her first impulse was to go into attack mode, to deflect criticism from herself.

When I heard the replay of Hillary saying, "And you know what I'm talkin bout", I laugh! Tucker Carlson called it Hillary's impression of Al Sharpton.


14 posted on 01/21/2006 5:02:41 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: OldFriend

An hour? No need for that much time.

We'll just call it the "Two Minute Hate".


15 posted on 01/21/2006 5:03:02 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
""What we see here in the media coverage is the same old story. The MSM taking Republican spin points and just retailing them. It's one size fits all. If Al Gore gives a speech, if Howard Dean gives a speech, if Ray Nagin gives a speech, or if Hillary Clinton gives a speech, 'they're crazy, they're out of control, they're nuts!"








" 'they're crazy, they're out of control, they're nuts!"

Yeap, they really are and, frankly, ....

16 posted on 01/21/2006 5:03:59 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Burns introduces him as "media writer Neil Gabler". What the
hell is a media writer? The rest of the bunch seem to have
honest jobs.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 5:04:11 PM PST by RWCon
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To: YaYa123
Jane thought she too was defending Hillary when she explained to the panel. Jane said, the plantation remark was not part of Hillary's scripted speech, it came in response to a tough question from the audience.

Actually, Jane was agnostic on the issue of whether Hillary's remark was spontaneous or planned.

She did suggest it might have been an off-the-cuff response to a question, but then added: "but if she reached for the race card, then that's a different context."

18 posted on 01/21/2006 5:09:32 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Zacs Mom

LOL - great work!!!


19 posted on 01/21/2006 5:10:40 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Her heinous was trying to justify why she has NO accomplishments since she's been in the senate.

Cause Simon Legree just won't let her!!!!!!

20 posted on 01/21/2006 5:12:41 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: OldFriend
Is there any group left that needs a pander? I'm a fat database manager over 55 in Ohio. Let's see...how about she comes out for unlimited medical care for fat-impaired DBAs who are relatively aged men in the middle west?
21 posted on 01/21/2006 5:16:48 PM PST by TheGeezer
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To: martin_fierro

I always thought he looked creepy with the mustache....glad he shaved it off...I really did not recognize him at first


22 posted on 01/21/2006 5:16:52 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: Zacs Mom

Post of the Month!


23 posted on 01/21/2006 5:21:55 PM PST by wrathof59
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To: Zacs Mom
Isn't it interesting that Hillary never actually 'accuses' the President in any of those quotes? She says "It's very hard to stop people who ...."

... she just makes a statement. In the first statement she qualifies it with "I don't believe." Which means she can justify the accusation by saying, it was my belief, not a statement of fact. Another statement is "Some believe..." Another is "It's very hard to tell people..." She is quite the lawyer isn't she.

24 posted on 01/21/2006 5:23:53 PM PST by carmody
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To: OldFriend
Is there any group left that needs a pander?

Soccer moms, Oprah moms.

Look for Bill to be caught in a compromising position with some bimbo, maybe by one of the tabloids. She can then divorce the cad, go on Oprah and get her "victim card" punched again.

25 posted on 01/21/2006 5:25:38 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Bush lied, people dyed....their fingers.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I prefer your take on Jane to mine.

I wish Newswatch had a regular segment, "Lies of the Week"

Like Al Sharpton telling Chris Matthews Hillary's plantation remark was not made inside a Harlem church.

Like Chris Matthews saying Laura Bush claimed to speak for God, just like Mayor Nagin and Pat Robertson did.


26 posted on 01/21/2006 5:28:14 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123
Al Sharpton telling Chris Matthews Hillary's plantation remark was not made inside a Harlem church.

That has potential for Lie of the Year.

27 posted on 01/21/2006 5:33:13 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10907294/

"MATTHEWS: Thank you, David Shuster. For more on the comments made by Senator Clinton on Martin Luther King Day, we turn to Reverend Al Sharpton and to Ron Christie, he‘s a former special assistant to President Bush and author of a book called “Black in the White House: Life Inside George Bush‘s West Wing.” Reverend Sharpton, you were there.

REV. AL SHARPTON, NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK: I hosted the event.

MATTHEWS: Were you happy with her remarks?

SHARPTON: Not only was I happy, let me straighten something out. She did not make the comments at a Harlem church, she made it at our organization, National Action Network has a policy forum. "


28 posted on 01/21/2006 5:42:17 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123; All

I have read somewhere here at FR that there was NO QUESTON preceeding her plantation remark. Does anyone have the transcript or a tape?


29 posted on 01/21/2006 5:42:41 PM PST by Carolinamom (New member of Sam's Club)
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To: YaYa123

http://newsbusters.org/node/3629


30 posted on 01/21/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Neil Gobbler is a nobody who's been nowhere and done nothing. Why he isn't super-sizing fries at a Mickey D's somewhere is beyond me. Not often you encounter hateful liberal media bigotry as thinly veiled as you find with this diminutive runt.


31 posted on 01/21/2006 5:46:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I won’t watch that show simply because of Gabler being on it.


32 posted on 01/21/2006 5:47:10 PM PST by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: carmody
She is quite the lawyer isn't she.

All smart lawyers are good liars. The basic skill is to ask questions and make statements which definitively mislead and deceive without actually being flatly false declarative sentences. But they are lies, no question. Without them the legal system would collapse and we would have to settle for justice instead.

33 posted on 01/21/2006 5:52:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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34 posted on 01/21/2006 6:03:34 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Neal, having Jane Hall laugh at you and your arguments about conservative media bias is the equivalent of a 5th-grader having his mother walk out on his piano recital. Time for reflection, Mr. Gabler.

Thanks for the report, governsleastgovernsbest. Sounds like it was a great moment to watch.

36 posted on 01/21/2006 6:20:30 PM PST by syriacus (Independent counsel system has "been corrupted and no longer serves its intended purpose" Leahy,1998)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If he seriously thinks the MSM is full of conservative spin, then he needs more than reflection.


37 posted on 01/21/2006 6:20:43 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: martin_fierro

he looked great! i was astounded. i told xshub not to get any ideas, i would divorce him, if he shaved his off.


38 posted on 01/21/2006 6:21:43 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: syriacus

Thanks, syriacus. It really was something to see Jane literally laugh at Gabler as she sarcastically 'dissed' his theory.


39 posted on 01/21/2006 6:27:28 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: OldFriend
I'd like to see a show with Julian Phillips, Juan Williams and Neil Gabler.

Could be called the insanity hour.

So many great replies on this thread, but this one is LOL funny. Thanks :)

40 posted on 01/21/2006 6:32:57 PM PST by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Shame on Fox for having gabler on their show. They are clearly really just making fun of him by encouraging him to make a fool of himself ( which of course isn't hard ). It's like putting a special ed kid on Jeopardy! Shame, shame, shame on you Fox!
41 posted on 01/21/2006 6:40:22 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: jmaroneps37
I see no difference between Juan Williams and the dim witted Julian Phillips.

Other than Jack Cafferty I can't think of a single dunce on any other channel.

Matthews is in a category of his own so he doesn't count.

42 posted on 01/21/2006 6:42:17 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: jmaroneps37
Having gabler on their show [is]like putting a special ed kid on Jeopardy!

Ouch.

43 posted on 01/21/2006 6:46:26 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Neil Gabler has been out of control for a very long time now and it became progressively more pronounced over the Christmas issue when he was trashing O'Reilly and Gibson for their War on Christmas fight.


44 posted on 01/21/2006 6:47:19 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: OldFriend
I see no difference between Juan Williams and the dim witted Julian Phillips.

I must say that I do. Of course I disagree with much of what Juan has to say, but I find him knowledgeable and at ease with himself. In contrast, Phillips seems ill-informed and uncomfortable.

45 posted on 01/21/2006 6:50:29 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: xsmommy
I didn't recognize Cal Thomas till he opened his mouth. He looked much better with a mustache, IMHO. But I see I'm out numbered on this thread..:)

sw

46 posted on 01/21/2006 6:58:49 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

Cal Thomas has always looked (IMO) like the floor manager in the "Are You Being Served" TV show.


47 posted on 01/21/2006 7:04:09 PM PST by Carolinamom (New member of Sam's Club)
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To: spectre

I guess we are not going to hear a lot about nuance with Hillary.


48 posted on 01/21/2006 7:04:27 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: martin_fierro

Especialy with the Botox treatment around his eyes and forehead. Notice, no wrinkles? Move over Greta!


49 posted on 01/21/2006 7:07:50 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

That whole SHOW is a joke.


50 posted on 01/21/2006 7:20:19 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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