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Kennedy Says Alito 'Itching to Overturn Roe v. Wade'
CNS News ^ | January 20, 2006 | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 01/20/2006 5:48:42 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: phoenix0468
And if morality isn't the basis for the Constitution, then what is?

And please point out where the right to abortion is in the Constitution.

61 posted on 01/20/2006 6:41:42 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: bill1952

see #46. Do you agree that the states should decide and it not be a federal question? That's how I feel.


62 posted on 01/20/2006 6:42:21 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: msnimje

It is morbid to watch these men and women who hold such high office fight so passionately to make sure precious little babies will meet a bloody violent death. I pray that their eyes are opened before they spend eternity in hell.


63 posted on 01/20/2006 6:42:45 PM PST by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: Kaslin

Wasn't the Tedster seen in the Thames today?


64 posted on 01/20/2006 6:43:19 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: phoenix0468

We would be a completely lawless society if there were no "legislating morality". Each and every law on the books is based on morality in one form or another. Folks just get up in arms and say you shouldn't "legislate morality" when it begins to trample on something that they would like to keep as a legal act.


65 posted on 01/20/2006 6:44:18 PM PST by fox0566
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To: Kaslin

One reason I left the Catholic Church is because of its failure to excommunicate the likes of the Kennedys. The Church is interested in one thing: MONEY.


66 posted on 01/20/2006 6:44:29 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Moonman62

#1 The Constitution is a morally based document.

#2 I never said the right to an abortion is in the constitution. In fact read post #46


67 posted on 01/20/2006 6:45:36 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468
Would you agree with abortion in the case of saving a mothers life? Or, and I know this is even more vague, in the case of rape or incest?

Those things seldom happen. Not worth the discussion. But, for discussions sake, let's just let the kids live. In the case of rape shoot the rapist if you get a chance.

Roe is such a massive legal mistake that has to be fixed. It's a state issue.

I wonder, has Christ tried to come back over and over the past few decades and never been able to make it?

68 posted on 01/20/2006 6:45:40 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Quoting Hillary Clinton: "You know, you know, you know, you know.....")
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To: willyd

As was mentioned, those 50 IQ points they neither have nor have right to. But your argument does not hold water - any state which overturns the Roe effectively will be immediately bankrupted by the skyrocketing welfare costs. And the failure to count is NOT among many and notorious failings of our politicians.


69 posted on 01/20/2006 6:47:10 PM PST by GSlob
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To: phoenix0468
The federal government should stay out of it and leave it to the individual states to decide where it lies.

I think that is the whole idea for overturning Roe V. Wade... let the states decide.

70 posted on 01/20/2006 6:47:25 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Baynative

That's brilliant!


71 posted on 01/20/2006 6:51:07 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: phoenix0468
>>>>see #46 and get back with me.

See #60 and get back with me. Killing can be a justified act under certain circumstances. War, self defense, court imposed death penalty for mass murder or an act of terrorism. The vast majority of the time, however, there is no justification for killing the unborn through the abortion procedure. Unless of course you accept abortion as a form of birth control.

72 posted on 01/20/2006 6:52:27 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: phoenix0468
So in other words. You're a wishy washy moderate who doesn't want to make a decision that you would call true. 'True for me... maybe not for you'.

You don't need the Feds or the States to tell you this isn't a coherent position. Laws of logic will do that all by itself.

It's either murder for you and everyone else or it's not murder for anyone. Make a decision.

73 posted on 01/20/2006 6:53:19 PM PST by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: RichInOC
Incidentally, Teddy's itching as well...

I don't even want to think about what he might be itching from.

74 posted on 01/20/2006 6:53:22 PM PST by mafree
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To: GSlob

Our states will not be bankrupted by welfare. We would just pass legislation limiting the amount of welfare that each person can receive or better yet, get rid of it all together. Let the charities deal with the issue. Also, it was a joke...


75 posted on 01/20/2006 6:54:33 PM PST by willyd (No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
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To: fox0566

We would be a completely lawless society if there were no "legislating morality". Each and every law on the books is based on morality in one form or another. Folks just get up in arms and say you shouldn't "legislate morality" when it begins to trample on something that they would like to keep as a legal act.

Bingo...All laws are derived from the ten commandments. If someone suggests that they forbid leglislating morality, then go ahead and steal their goods, kill their family except for the wife and then commit adultery. Afterall stealing and killing are part of moral teaching in the bible.

The bottom line, people don't understand what they are talking about. People don't understand the underpinings of civilization is derived from something other than a big government.


76 posted on 01/20/2006 6:56:49 PM PST by Psycho_Runner (Democrats prove darwin was wrong)
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To: Kaslin

Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.


77 posted on 01/20/2006 6:58:26 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Kaslin
the judge is "itching to overturn Roe v. Wade."

I hope and pray that he does.

78 posted on 01/20/2006 7:00:30 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: msnimje; You Dirty Rats; Moonman62; isthisnickcool; bill1952; Reagan Man; fox0566

First let me say this. I am against abortion, i.e. if someone were to ask me if they should get an abortion just because it was a mistake for them to get pregnant I would be apalled. I would tell them that the act of aborting their baby is a morally reprehensible and selfish act.

Second, The constitution provides an excellent vehicle for the creation of laws in our society. The basic priciple of the right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness should not be infringed upon by anyone. This is what our laws should be based upon. I.E. laws that legislate moral issues where life, liberty or the persuit of happiness are not at stake IMO are unnecessary. I know this may sound ambiguous to some, so ask me to clarify or give an example if needed.

I am against Roe v. Wade, in retrospect and after much introspection, for a number of reasons, some of which were brought up to me by you good folks. First, the statement by President Reagon resonates in my memory as the most valid argument against the decision. Second, I believe it to be a state question and not a federal one. There are some matters of national interest that require the federal governments decision, but I think most should be handled by the states.

In addition I would like to thank all of you for not tearing my head off in response to my very ambivalent post. I know where I stand on abortion, just can't bring myself to tell another person what they should or shouldn't do in the case. I know what I would tell them if asked. I would say it is wrong and they shouldn't do it out of vanity.

Finally I would like to impart a story for you. About nine years ago my current wife and I were sitting in a doctor's office. We had recently found out that we were going to have a baby. We were young, in school, and a baby is a very big responsibility. We were considering having our baby aborted. I say we because I was supporting my wife's decision to do so. We had to wait for about an hour. During this time I was very uncomfortable and confused. I could tell my wife was as well. As soon as she turned to me and said, "honey I don't want to be here", I helped her up and we were out of that office like a flash. My daughter is nine now. Extremely bright, full of love, and a wonder to behold. We almost took her right to life away from her, but we made the right decision.

People will constantly be confronted with these kinds of decisions throughout life, whether they are legislated or not. Am I opposed to abortion? Heck yes. Do I support a woman's right to choose, well I guess I am still quite ambivalent on this issue. But I know where I stand on abortion, and that comforts me some.


79 posted on 01/20/2006 7:01:57 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Kaslin

Kennedy's in Washington? I thought I saw a picture of him in the Thames River in England.


80 posted on 01/20/2006 7:06:10 PM PST by Savage Beast (Women are like wine. You get what you pay for. Mine's the best. It's expensive. It's worth it.)
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