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Massachusetts Says "No" To In-State Tuition For Illegal Aliens
Hub Politics ^ | 01/12/06 | Aaron Margolis

Posted on 01/12/2006 7:08:53 PM PST by djjava

The Boston Globe calls them "undocumented immigrants;" I call them what that are, and that is "illegal aliens." No matter what you call them, they still will not get in-state tuition in Massachusetts, now that House members voted 96-to-57 to defeat this most preposterous bill that had no business on Beacon Hill.

Massachusetts House members last night decisively defeated a controversial bill to extend in-state tuition rates at public colleges to undocumented immigrants, effectively killing the measure for this year.

The 96-to-57 tally surprised advocates of the bill, who believed they had enough votes to win approval in the House and at one point were predicting they may have enough support to override a certain veto from Governor Mitt Romney.

Despite some pathetic sob stories from House Democrats, common sense prevailed. The Republicans could not have done this alone; support from more than a handful of Democrats was required to defeat this bill.

Representative Marie Parente, a Milford Democrat, said immigrants who are here illegally should not be given advantages over residents who struggle as she did when she was a child.

Parente was a foster child and attended college later in life because she could not afford to go right out of high school.

"You're going to educate people to take our own technical jobs, the ones our students need?" Parente said.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegal; immigrantlist; immigrants; instatetuition; massachusetts; reilly; romney; tuition; undocumented
a great day in Massachusetts
1 posted on 01/12/2006 7:08:56 PM PST by djjava
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In Massachusetts???? Wow! I don't believe it!


2 posted on 01/12/2006 7:11:07 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: djjava

Bout damn time!

Now if only other states will follow with similar measures, like no automatic citizenship to children born of illegal alien mothers!


3 posted on 01/12/2006 7:13:40 PM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: djjava
A lot of people got on the phones and faxes to defeat this bill. The commies in metro west will be back next year.
4 posted on 01/12/2006 7:14:16 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: djjava
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5 posted on 01/12/2006 7:15:03 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: djjava

This should show the national Republican Party about the the unpopularity of the illegals when this couldn't pass in a socialist state. There was a massive reaction to this bill, much of it as a result of conservative talk show hosts who made all of this very well known.


6 posted on 01/12/2006 7:15:42 PM PST by putupjob
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To: djjava

Ya mean that Teddy's state is racist?


7 posted on 01/12/2006 7:15:51 PM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: djjava

Common sense is beginning to make progress on this issue.


8 posted on 01/12/2006 7:16:10 PM PST by BinaryBoy
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To: djjava
Can common sense actually prevail in Massachusetts?
9 posted on 01/12/2006 7:17:07 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: djjava

Why even offer in state tuition to LEGAL aliens?


10 posted on 01/12/2006 7:18:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: djjava

How insensitive!


11 posted on 01/12/2006 7:18:57 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: djjava

Washington was giving in-state tuition to illegals who graduated from local high schools and then University of WA got hit with a law suit for not giving in state tuition to all foreign students. The ruling was that if they gave in state tuition to illegals, they had to give it to legal aliens as well.


12 posted on 01/12/2006 7:19:41 PM PST by Eva
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To: Little Bill; BostonianRightist; ElectricStrawberry; raccoonradio; Disturbin; acapesket; ...

ping


13 posted on 01/12/2006 7:20:27 PM PST by djjava (http://www.pardonmyenglish.com | http://www.hubpolitics.com)
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To: djjava

Howie Carr beat this issue senseless over the past few months...looks like his listeners were paying attention.


14 posted on 01/12/2006 7:22:48 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: djjava

Watch the Mass. courts to order the legislature to adopt this.


15 posted on 01/12/2006 7:23:01 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: djjava
The 96-to-57 tally surprised advocates of the bill, who believed they had enough votes to win approval in the House and at one point were predicting they may have enough support to override a certain veto from Governor Mitt Romney.

Har!! How far off can a "prediction" be?

Of course, the reason that the bill's advocates thought they could win was because the Boston Globe, thinking that its own power and influence was enough to sway the legislature (like it was for decades), led the advocates to believe that the bill had overwhelming support.

Once again, the joke is on the scumbags.

It's all over for the Democrat Party's monopoly on the selection, spin, and dissemination of the news via city newspapers and "the big three" networks, but these scumbags who are entrenched in their liberal newsrooms just keep scrunching their eyes shut and shaking their heads while chanting, "Nananananananana...." hoping that when they stop it won't be true. "Things will once again be as they were", the scumbags dream.

No. They won't.

16 posted on 01/12/2006 7:26:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jackibutterfly

This isn't scrappleface or something, is it???????


17 posted on 01/12/2006 7:48:27 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: djjava
...they may have enough support to override a certain veto from Governor Mitt Romney.

Why would Romney veto it?

He vetoes it and he can probably write off half the conservative base if he decides to run for the White House in 08.

Why would he veto it anyway? Has he a history (like the current occupant of the White House) of pandering to Hispanics and illegals?
18 posted on 01/12/2006 7:56:09 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

the bill was to allow for illegal aliens to get in-state tuition, so if it passed, it would have given them cheaper tuition than some 5th generation american from Rhode Island.

thus, the veto by Romney would have been welcome.


19 posted on 01/12/2006 8:04:11 PM PST by djjava (http://www.pardonmyenglish.com | http://www.hubpolitics.com)
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To: djjava

Do my eyes deceive me?


20 posted on 01/12/2006 8:09:27 PM PST by freekitty
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To: TomGuy

The bill was defeated in the MA House, so there's nothing for Romney to sign OR veto.

The advocates of the bill were assuming that the bill would pass the House. Of course Romney would have vetoed the bill had it passed. The advocates also assumed that they would be able to override Romney's veto. It's moot!

There was a debate on the radio between Lieutenant Gov Kerry Healey (also a Republican), and the MA Attorney General who will be running for Gov and who supports the bill - Tom Reilly. Healey cleaned his clock!


21 posted on 01/12/2006 8:09:41 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: djjava
Despite some pathetic sob stories from House Democrats, common sense prevailed. The Republicans could not have done this alone; support from more than a handful of Democrats was required to defeat this bill.

To give you an idea of what we are up against here in Mass. of the 160 House members only about 20 are Republicans. -Tom

22 posted on 01/12/2006 8:11:38 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Oh.

I misread it.



23 posted on 01/12/2006 8:19:03 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: djjava

57 of our State Reps voted for that measure to pass.



24 posted on 01/12/2006 8:22:01 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Eva

RALEIGH - Gov. Mike Easley says a nine-year-old federal law prevents North Carolina from giving lower, in-state tuition rates at the state's colleges and universities to illegal immigrants, as a bill in the General Assembly proposes.

Read the latest headlines about illegal immigration.

"The bill is in violation of federal law," Easley said Wednesday in Charlotte. "Federal law prohibits states from giving in-state tuition to illegal immigrants unless they also give it to (others)."

Easley, referring to research compiled by General Assembly analysts, said a 1996 federal law requires that if a state gives a benefit such as in-state tuition to illegal immigrants based on their residency in the state, it must do the same for citizens of any other state who now pay out-of-state tuition.

"Every U.S. citizen has to get in-state tuition," said Gerry Cohen, director of the bill drafting division of the General Assembly, who researched the issue.

Such a move is impossible, since it would deliver a devastating financial blow to the university system.


25 posted on 01/12/2006 8:24:44 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: djjava

But, what IF the ILLEGALS are also HOMOS?

Then what are those goof-balls going to do?


26 posted on 01/12/2006 8:30:55 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: djjava

Amazing. Now if that wuss Rick Perry would just follow suit.


27 posted on 01/12/2006 9:28:58 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: djjava

Huh??????????????? Well, maybe they are wising up. However....


28 posted on 01/12/2006 10:58:26 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: djjava
Article is mistitled, headline should read Massachusetts Legislature Says 'NO' to In-State Tuition for Illegal Aliens.

Even though we ended up liking this decision, our Leaders Legislators don't care what we think.

29 posted on 01/13/2006 6:58:32 AM PST by BostonianRightist ("Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice." ~ Senator Goldwater)
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To: Radix
How do these 57 even begin to explain themselves? I would love a link to their explanation. I especially want them to explain why they think it's ok to charge someone from another state more than someone from another country.
30 posted on 01/13/2006 10:31:19 PM PST by one more state
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To: BostonianRightist

Very true : )


31 posted on 01/14/2006 9:02:07 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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