Posted on 01/09/2006 11:12:40 PM PST by appeal2
This election is it. I am giving the Republicans one last chance to get it right and make up for lost time and abandoned ideals. In 1994, the congress became Republican for the first time since Dwight Eisenhower was president. The Contract With America was a truly innovative gutsy policy that resonated with the American people and provided hope that our government could be reformed and brought under control and that spendng could be reduced.
Now fast forward 12 years. It is obvious that the Republicans have absolutely no intention of cutting spending, reducing taxes, stemming the tide of useless regulation or trying to improve the functioning of our country. Rather their tenure has become nothing but a big money grab, seeking to squeeze the last drop out of an overly accomodating teet.
They are irresponsible, greedy, self-absorbed, reckless and indifferent. They make Bill Clinton look fiscally responsible and they bring disgrace upon the notion of limited government.
Much of this is the President's fault. He has failed to provide any modicum of leadership to the congress, being content to watch them all roll around in that giant sandbox.
To be fair, the President has been preoccupied with his duty to protect us from external threats, which is really his primary mandate. However, he doesn't get a free pass. By allowing congress to continue its plunder of the treasury, he is akin to parents who allow their unlicensed child to borrow the family's Ferrari for a night of frolick, with similar results.
Congress is quite simply as Mark Twain stated, "A permanent underclass of thieves." And this congress has never disappointed. The demise of Delay is exactly on point. On the one hand we are sorry to see him leave, he was such an effective leader. On the other hand, effective at what, getting the prescription drug benefit passed, speeding the plunder and making sure everyone gets fed.
Washington has long been a cesspool in drastic need of a good pumping. And if the Republicans don't do it. they will be voted out of office so that we can return to the good old days of gridlock, with Charlie Rangel leading up the Ways and Means Committee. And that is the only reason why I am giving this party yet another undeserved chance.
Well, at least you gave them one more shot. After they fail you, who are you going to support? The Rats?
Here is your problem, only two parties, the Republicans and the Rats. Just two, thats it. Oh, there are others, but they only lose elections for Republicans, or, to say it another way, they help Rats win.
So, what`s the solution? Get involved in the Republican party, don`t be single issue, and stay in and fight for what you believe. Or, stand on the side lines, watch the Rats win, and then, when the country is lost, you can say I told you so.
Well, at least you gave them one more shot. After they fail you, who are you going to support? The Rats?
Here is your problem, only two parties, the Republicans and the Rats. Just two, thats it. Oh, there are others, but they only lose elections for Republicans, or, to say it another way, they help Rats win.
So, what`s the solution? Get involved in the Republican party, don`t be single issue, and stay in and fight for what you believe. Or, stand on the side lines, watch the Rats win, and then, when the country is lost, you can say I told you so.
Option B.
Our theives are far superior to the Democrat's theives. Things could be a hell of a lot worse with Democrats in charge. You want reform...so do I and it has been too slow to come since Newt did his contract with America. We need another one to keep 'em focused and on track for reform.
I also what a block to the expansion of world government over the US, gay special rights, full term abortion, liberal judges who dictate policy from the bench that liberals don't the power to gain through constitutional channels, pansy appeasement fluzies in the Federal government defense organizations, socialized medicine... I could go on, but you get the picture?
If we abandon Republicans rather than making them do what we want them to do through selection and lobbying, we will be electing democrats. And I don't want to say that I hate Democrats... but I don't have a better word for it right now.
The spending is appalling and the size of government is directly responsible for the myriad lobbying scandals. However, my vote is based about 60% on defense, and 40% on the economy, spending, social issues and everything else. As such, I have to vote for the party that supports our military. Sadly, only the GOP fits the bill at this time.
If the Dems returned to fighters similar to FDR, Truman and JFK, maybe they would be a serious option, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
"This election is it. I am giving the Republicans one last chance to get it right and make up for lost time and abandoned ideals."
And we should care because.....?
That's it. Basically you could sleep through the entire 4 years, wake up without reading a paper or turning on the tv or radio, go vote GOP, and go back to sleep, and it's about the same as if you waste your time paying attention. Same result in the end. It's so brainless it's sorta boring.
Tell you what, the last person I'm going to pay attention to is someone without the wits to post his post just once.
Tell you what, the last person I'm going to pay attention to is someone without the wits to post his post just once.
You're a battered wifeconservative. You'll always return for more beatings.
How do I know? You'd have dumped himthem already if you thought it was a serious problem. How much more evidence of perfidy do you need?
And no matter what other simpletons say, the drunk next door'Rat party isn't your only alternative.
I completely agree. I'm impresed with some of the true conservatives who are emerging like Pence and Flake. It's hard for me to admit it but Bush, despite a good foreign policy and prosecution of the war, has failed in leadership in domestic policy. Cutting taxes is great BUT that must be accompanied by cutting non-defense spending. He's passed the biggest entitlement since LBJ (prescription drugs) and hasn't ONCE vetoed or seen a congressional pork bill he didn't like. He's failed to exercise his constitutional duty to defend our borders against foreign invasion. I know we have a problem with a few RINOs and congress has gone crazy with it's "earmarks" and home pork projects. But this is precisely where presidential leadership could be decisive. But this total failure to adhere to true conservative principles - smaller,less intrusive government, reduction of pork and waste, greater individual freedom and responsibility, curtailment of deficit spending and balanced budgets - will cost the party dearly in '06. It's precisely this sort of behaviour that makes many conservatives just drop out in disgust. We need a strong conservative revival of the policies of Reagan - and some new ideas and faces!
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HA HA
I can`t do that (quit), I`ve got grandcritters that are preyyy important to me
So what is your solution?
what?
what?
pretty>preyyy
Given the choice between traitors, incompetents, and wasting my vote on some 3rd party retard who won't get a single electoral vote, I'm gonna have to stick with the incompetents and try to affect some changes via the primaries.
I'm with you. Can't vote Democrat. Basically, my "solution" isn't much of a solution. Like I said, pay attention if you feel like it. I enjoy the entertainment value. Vote GOP. Maybe one day we'll have two viable parties again, but at the moment, we've only got one.
Just hold out until we get a super duper majority! ROTFL
Hum Yes I have seen some Rats I would support over some Republicans as the Rat was more Conservative.
Here is your problem, only two parties, the Republicans and the Rats. Just two, thats it.
No there are many others our Constitution as well as our voting process allows for it. Oh, there are others, but they only lose elections for Republicans, or, to say it another way, they help Rats win.
No really as of late no one has lost an election for a Republicans but the Republicans themselves. It gets worse when certain ranking Republicans purposely make certain the primaries are poisoned early on in favor of the most Liberal part of the GOP.
So, what`s the solution?
Send them the way of the Whiggs works for me.
Get involved in the Republican party, don`t be single issue, and stay in and fight for what you believe.
I got a better idea get involved with the party and the candidates who actually represent what you believe especially in the primary. Don't be suckered into the "we need a united primary to show party unity" method of voting.
Or, stand on the side lines, watch the Rats win, and then, when the country is lost, you can say I told you so.
Hum now wait a minute here. When my former GOP governor ran for his last term I did not vote for him because he was worse than the DEM's in raising taxes, socialized medicine, social programs, you name it he was liberal. I voted Independent that election. I told republicans not to vote for him as he was worse then Dems. They didn't listen and he won reelection. He tried for a state income tax several times. He came close to bankrupting the state with deficit spending. He Split the Republican Party on these issues and left Conservatives hanging out to dry. Thankfully he was term limited out from running again.
A good GOP candidate ran to replace him and I supported him as he had a good record but he lost. You wanna know something though? The Rat he lost to is a self proclaimed Liberal. The Rat runs a far more Conservative office than the GOP governor he replaced named Don Sundquist-R ever did. So my point is the worse thing that can happen a lot of times in reality isn't the Rats winning but rather Republicans who are RAT enablers winning and splitting the party to where half support the enabler and the other half fighting the good fight are called traitors for not being loyal to the GOP leader no matter how pathetically wrong he is. They get zero support on conservative matters by that part of the GOP.
If the GOP this next POTUS election can get the Fordites and Poppy's pals to agree to let the people choose leaders WITHOUT THEIR CONSISTANT MEDDLING IN IT as in the past few elections, then we may see some positive change happen in the GOP. If not? Well there's Third Parties till the GOP wakes up and smells the coffee. I haven't written the GOP off but it better start showing me something better than the past 10 years of it's leadership.
There isn't another party that can win and gives something, although small to conservatives.
The possible change in makeup of the SCOTUS is what will allow us to continue making conservative gains despite RINO Pubbies. Vocal conservative pressure on President Bush has got Roberts and is pushing Alito. One more and the Rats are in big trouble.
The Rats aren't offering anything to the real America (national security), so they won't take back the House or Senate. If Pubbies run a winner in '08 and he follows Bush's SCOTUS picks with ONE more conservative, the people will see that conservative values work and liberal values kill. Then the Rats will have to wait for another generation of spoiled selfish doper hippies to gain ground again.
Ditto that.
You make the mistake of assuming that the Republican party is monolitic.
National Review has said it best: Conservatives are not in the majority, they are the majority of the majority, but they are still the minority.
That doesn't mean that we should elect Dems if the R's aren't doing their job. It doesn't work that way. Political power always gravitates to the center. Is what we need to do, is move the center to the right. You won't get that by electing Dems.
He has a lot of company in his anger and it won't take much conservative apathy for the Democrats to win. The voters in America are very closely divided.
There is no major conservative party and there is no major reform party.
The government is hopelessly out of control in its bureaucracy and spending.
I don't much care about the mess anymore myself because Republican incumbents are as busy feathering their nests as are the Democrats.
It's getting to the point we are being asked to vote for one set of organized crime gangsters over another.
Some choice.
The $200 million + FEMA ice disaster taught me this federal government does not work.
Tractor trailers full of ice roamed the country for weeks after Hurricane Katrina looking for a place to unload or store frozen water. The federal government could have built a couple of VA hospitals for what it wasted on ice nobody wanted. That ice is still costing us a fortune as it is now stored throughout the country at federal taxpayer expense. The American taxpayer would have been better off if the ice had been immediately dumped on the sides of the interstate highways as soon as the oversupply was noted.
In private business, you cut your losses.
In government, you pile your losses higher and higher. Nobody gives a damn because the American taxpayer just keeps on paying and paying.
What is the alternative? Communists? No thanks. They need lobbyist reform and have needed it for some time.
In the real, grownup world, you don't get everything you want, or if you do, you must fight for it long and hard.
Join the Libertarian party.
I did.
"Hey Charlie Brown, come on and kick this football!"
I'll say this, too: If McCain gets the nomination, I will NOT vote for him, under any circumstances. Even if Hitlary is the opponent.
The pubbies have indeed feathered their nests, on my dime. FEMA aside, where is the SS reform?
The bridge to nowhere got passed, for crying out loud.
The highway bill was a fiasco of pork.
The drug plan is going to cost us so much we can't imagine.
When was the last Bush veto? Oh yeah, there hasn't been one.
CFR? Passed.
Fair Tax? Shelved.
SS reform? Shelved.
Alqueda bill of rights? Passed.
He or she is not the only one who feels this way. Far from it.
The last time was the last time.
Stay the course. There is no viable alternative available.
Work within the party to regain the reins and placed in the hands of more focused faithful individuals.
Good luck.
Your Option B wasn't "quit."
Wrong. Republicans lose elections because of themselves.
Question: would thee have been a PRESIDENT CLINTON without Ross?
That's OK, Hank. Next time you are at the Libertarian or Constitution party convention, you can talk with the other 7 guests about solutions.
Sorry to be a smarta$$. I do agree with your frustration and indifference towards the Republicans, but voting third party won't get us anywhere. Point is, the only way a third party would ever get anywhere is if they displace one of the two major ones. Like the Republicans did to the Whigs in the 1860s. I don't see the LP or CP doing that.
Yep. Gridlock is preferable to what we have now.
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