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Father of LSD nears the century mark: Scientist calls drug 'medicine for the soul'
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 1/7/06 | CRAIG SMITH/New York Times

Posted on 01/08/2006 12:20:54 PM PST by wagglebee

BURG, Switzerland -- Albert Hofmann, the father of LSD, walked slowly across the small corner office of his modernist home on a grassy Alpine hilltop here, hoping to show a visitor the vista that sweeps before him on clear days. But outside there was only a white blanket of fog. He picked up a photograph of the view on his desk instead, left there perhaps to convince visitors of what really lies beyond the window.

Hofmann will turn 100 on Wednesday, a milestone to be marked by a symposium in Basel on the chemical compound that he discovered and which unlocked the Blakean doors of perception, altering consciousnesses around the world.

As his time left grows short, Hofmann's conversation turns ever more insistently around one theme: man's oneness with nature and the dangers of an increasing inattention to that fact.

"It's very, very dangerous to lose contact with living nature," he said. "In the big cities, there are people who have never seen living nature, all things are products of humans," he said. "The bigger the town, the less they see and understand nature."

And, yes, LSD, which he calls his "problem child," could help reconnect people to the universe.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alberthofmann; chemicalwarfare; drugs; lsd; psychedelicdrugs; wodlist
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He calls LSD "medicine for the soul" and is frustrated by the worldwide prohibition that has pushed it underground. "It was used very successfully for 10 years in psychoanalysis."

But the drug was hijacked by the youth movement of the 1960s and then unfairly demonized, he said. He concedes LSD can be dangerous and calls its promotion by Timothy Leary and others "a crime."

Does he have any evidence of success using LSD in psychoanalysis?

1 posted on 01/08/2006 12:20:57 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
It's all baloney, really.

Interesting to hear he is still alive. He has been a great chemist.

But drugs like LSD and the like and their widespread use are the main reasosn we are in the liberal cesspool we are in now.

2 posted on 01/08/2006 12:22:59 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: wagglebee
Even today the same old grifters are talking about drugs like ectsatsy or whatever the flavor of the day being used for "psychoanalysis" etc...
3 posted on 01/08/2006 12:24:33 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: wagglebee

Oh yeah, Imagining spiders swarming out of your pores is real "medicine for the soul".


4 posted on 01/08/2006 12:24:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: wagglebee

"Does he have any evidence of success using LSD in psychoanalysis?"

No, unfortunately, both the psychologist and the patient have to be tripping at the same time to communicate at the same level.....not enough functioning neurons were left in either for analysis.


5 posted on 01/08/2006 12:26:13 PM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful Muslim?.....The Ultimate Oxymoron.)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah he might still be alive, but Timothy Leary's dead....
......no...wait...he's just on the outside looking in.


6 posted on 01/08/2006 12:30:47 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: wagglebee
"Does he have any evidence of success using LSD in psychoanalysis?"

Yes, he does. But you have to be crazy on acid to see it.

7 posted on 01/08/2006 12:33:48 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: wagglebee

Ergot blight. Probably caused hallucinations for centuries among unknowing people, even back in the middle ages.


8 posted on 01/08/2006 12:34:37 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Vaquero

LMAO!


9 posted on 01/08/2006 12:35:51 PM PST by steveo (No Anchovies? You've got the wrong man, I spell my name steveo...)
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To: Supernatural

Ergotism was very likely the cause of irrational behaviors that resulted in the Salem Witch Trials in the 17th century.

http://web.utk.edu/~kstclair/221/ergotism.html


10 posted on 01/08/2006 12:40:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

100 years? That's a lot time for flashbacks.


11 posted on 01/08/2006 12:41:54 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: wagglebee

I can certainly believe it. Something has to explain the irrational behavior that got a lot of innocent people brutally killed.


12 posted on 01/08/2006 12:43:12 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: wagglebee
"Medicine for the soul?"

When I was in college back in the 1960's, LSD was everywhere. San Francisco, Haight Street, the "Summer of Love." Two or three people I knew pretty well flunked out of school after they got involved with acid. One guy went on a really bad trip and was hospitalized for a couple of weeks. Another went nuts and just walked away from his scholarship. The last time I saw him he was a street bum begging for handouts.

13 posted on 01/08/2006 12:44:12 PM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Vaquero; steveo
Yeah he might still be alive, but Timothy Leary's dead.... ......no...wait...he's just on the outside looking in.

Tuned out, turned off, dropped dead.

14 posted on 01/08/2006 12:46:00 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: ex-Texan

Oh yeah....that's REAL Medicine for the soul. Amazing huh?


15 posted on 01/08/2006 12:54:09 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: tallhappy

That's a pretty broad claim--drugs equals liberalism--which I don't think you could support with the facts. (Plenty of drunks and pillheads on our side of the table, sorry to say.) That said, I took LSD about a dozen times in college and apart from one really fun afternoon in the Egyptian wing of a museum in New York ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD CAME OF IT-- the "revelations" that come from acid add up to so much bulls**t in the light of day--and I know this from hard experience. In exchange for a little wild fun, LSD drains away physical health, concentration, memory and true creativity. I met Leary a couple of times late in his life and it struck me that there was about 45% of a brain there.


16 posted on 01/08/2006 12:54:54 PM PST by Nick5
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To: cubreporter
I don't know that it's reasonable to equate his controlled use of LSD and the street versions of LSD.

I knew someone in college who had tried LSD before and experienced what he was like when he had a flashback. Wasn't pleasant.

The Drug Enforcement Administration reports that the strength of LSD samples obtained currently from illicit sources ranges from 20 to 80 micrograms of LSD per dose. This is considerably less than the levels reported during the 1960s and early 1970s, when the dosage ranged from 100 to 200 micrograms, or higher, per unit. (Source: NIH/DHHS)

17 posted on 01/08/2006 1:07:43 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Halt W's illegals' amnesty. Get GOP elected statewide in CA.)
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To: RouxStir
"Does he have any evidence of success using LSD in psychoanalysis?"

Not sure. but Cary Grant swore by it!

18 posted on 01/08/2006 1:12:35 PM PST by Bommer
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To: newzjunkey

if I am not mistaken, there is a limit that the body can absorb and you reach a plateau and thats it.....one could take a 10X overdose and the effects and longevity would remain the same......


19 posted on 01/08/2006 1:12:36 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: newzjunkey

Well, for knowing or claiming to know so much and how to save the world from the rest of us "over 30's crowd" they sure didn't contribute anything. Instead they got high and stayed that way.


20 posted on 01/08/2006 1:16:28 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: newzjunkey
On the day that the author Aldous Huxley died from cancer (the same day Kennedy was assassinated, btw) he was administered, at his request, 100 mics of LSD intramuscularly. Check this out, from Hofmann's autobiography:

8. Meeting with Aldous Huxley

I read many of Huxley's books when I was in college, including The Doors of Perception (Jim Morrison chose this title as the original name of the band, btw), Island, Brave New World, Crome Yellow, The Devils of Loudun (which was made into a very interesting movie starring Oliver Reed), Ape and Essence, and Heaven and Hell. He is worthwhile to read, even today. Huxley was as much a "Godfather" of the "psychedelic movement" as anybody, and certainly more than Timothy Leary. Huxley took it very seriously - - it was not a matter of "getting high" to him, nor was it "recreational".


21 posted on 01/08/2006 1:29:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ex-Texan

God Only Knows there were plenty of acid casualties in the world of Rock and Roll as well.
Brian Wilson comes to mind. And Syd Barrett. LSD didn't help Morrison or Hendrix much, either. The Beatles got some pretty good stuff out of it, but they were the exception, not the rule.


22 posted on 01/08/2006 1:34:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: toddlintown

My bumpersticker says,

If it weren't for Flashbacks,
I'd have no memory at all.


23 posted on 01/08/2006 1:35:35 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: wagglebee
When I was in college back in the 60s, we blew a little weed once in a while, but never came close to dropping.

Some jerks dropped tabs in the orange juice in the student union. Kids were freaking all over the place. Really sad.

24 posted on 01/08/2006 1:38:07 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: wagglebee

Drugs like LSD and marijuana are the devils attempt to counterfeit actual spiritual communion with the God of the universe. Satan uses these tools to draw people further and further from God and make them dependent on him.


25 posted on 01/08/2006 1:42:34 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: wagglebee; Supernatural

The ergotism of Salem was given good coverage on a segment of PBS's
"Secrets of The Dead" (link below)

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_salem/index.html

IIRC, the segment also mentioned a breakout in a village in France in the
late 1940s that left a bunch of folks tripping due to some bad bread.


26 posted on 01/08/2006 1:47:07 PM PST by VOA
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To: cripplecreek

Dont eat the brown acid!


27 posted on 01/08/2006 2:04:26 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: wagglebee
Does he have any evidence of success using LSD in psychoanalysis?

Don't know, but I thought it was pretty fun. Wouldn't have wanted to be talking to a shrink at the time, though.

28 posted on 01/08/2006 2:10:11 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: wagglebee
Everything's so,...... Green!
29 posted on 01/08/2006 2:34:05 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: ex-Texan; cripplecreek

I agree with your summary of its effects. I think people assign profound “soul cleansing” meaning to them because the creations generated while under are so unexpectedly rich and otherworldly that they sake up the soul. It’s not just things like “spiders swarming out of your pores”, but your entire environment reshaped with associations redrawn faster than you can take note of them. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “cleansing for the soul” or even benign to the soul.

Danny Elfman released a CD with Oingo Boingo called “Good for your Soul” that I always thought referenced LDS. “Once or twice, is good for your soul. If you don’t stop, you loose control.”. With the deconstruction of traditional ethics in the 1960s, it must have been tempting to make a lifestyle of it like your San Francisco friends found out. It took experience to show that our minds and souls are generally not built to be shaken that hard so often.


30 posted on 01/08/2006 2:39:01 PM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
It took experience to show that our minds and souls are generally not built to be shaken that hard so often.

No kidding tragic events in everyday life push some folks over the edge even without drugs.
31 posted on 01/08/2006 2:48:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: wagglebee
All LSD does is to scramble neurotransmitters and mimic schizophrenia...if enough is taken pathways can be altered for the rest of the victim's life..

Great legacy there Doc...chemically induced schizophrenia.. a byproduct of your psuedo 'enlightenment'...

Ruined many a youngster's life

imo

32 posted on 01/08/2006 3:09:06 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: Nick5

I saw Leary speak once and he was quite brilliant-NOT!
I dabbled a wee bit in the psychedelic scene and knew quite a few acid burnouts like the ones you refer to-remember"The Beast of the Haight"?
Acid strips your ego bare.A lot of people can't handle that type of naked truth.
Taking psychedelics did NOT make me more liberal.Quite the opposite-I saw right through the egoism and opportunism of the Leftist's leaders and charlatans.


33 posted on 01/08/2006 4:14:51 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: DouglasKC

At least there's proof marijuana exists. You worship the tooth fairy.


34 posted on 01/08/2006 4:17:09 PM PST by Huck (Don't Vote: It only encourages them.)
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To: DouglasKC

Well,you may be onto something there about Satan creating a false communion with God through hallucinogens.
Thought I saw "God"one time on a mescaline trip.
Yep,he was an old white guy with a long beard!


35 posted on 01/08/2006 4:17:45 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: ex-Texan

Yeah....a kid who lived on my block...kinda fragile guy...did acid in college. They found him running through the snow naked. Moved home. Still lives with his parents 20 years later. His hair went black to white within a year of that tab. Maybe he would of had a breakdown anyway....but acid slammed it home.


36 posted on 01/08/2006 4:20:55 PM PST by Blackirish (Bears Defense #1)
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To: Huck
At least there's proof marijuana exists. You worship the tooth fairy.

There's plenty of proof that God exists. If you knew the love of God you would be certain that his creation speaks of his existence.

37 posted on 01/08/2006 4:38:42 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: wagglebee
oes he have any evidence of success using LSD in psychoanalysis?

It looks that LSD prolonged his life :)

38 posted on 01/08/2006 5:00:22 PM PST by A. Pole (Ukrainian proverb: "Iak buly moskali, buv khlib na stoli, a iak bude Ukraina, bude bida po kolina")
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To: cubreporter
Well, for knowing or claiming to know so much and how to save the world from the rest of us "over 30's crowd" they sure didn't contribute anything

Bill Gates didn't contribute anything?
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39 posted on 01/08/2006 5:39:04 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: DouglasKC
Drugs like LSD and marijuana are the devils attempt to counterfeit actual spiritual communion with the God of the universe. Satan uses these tools to draw people further and further from God and make them dependent on him.

The druggies, like the sex perverts, can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones... this is the only way they get new Demo-rat voters... It is CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL and PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE!

40 posted on 01/08/2006 5:40:04 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: DouglasKC

The pagans are sure out in force these days.


41 posted on 01/08/2006 5:44:15 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: cripplecreek
Oh yeah, Imagining spiders swarming out of your pores is real "medicine for the soul".

Wait a minute...you're telling me the spiders weren't real?

42 posted on 01/08/2006 5:48:31 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: wagglebee

The only thing I learned from LSD is how to match my clothing. Other than that it was a wash.


43 posted on 01/08/2006 5:52:22 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: wagglebee
Albert Hofmann, the father of LSD, walked slowly across the small corner office of his modernist home on a grassy Alpine hilltop here, hoping to show a visitor the vista that sweeps before him on clear days.

There's a giant doing cartwheels,
A statue wearing high heels.
Look at all the happy creatures dancing on the lawn.
A dinosaur Victrola listening to Buck Owens.

44 posted on 01/08/2006 5:52:25 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Porterville

I had a really interesting two hour long conversation with a fishtank once!


45 posted on 01/08/2006 5:53:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Huck; DouglasKC
You worship the tooth fairy.

The rigorous reasoning of the atheist Freeper once again unveils itself.

46 posted on 01/08/2006 5:56:29 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: mugs99

bill and how many????


47 posted on 01/08/2006 6:25:52 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: cubreporter
bill and how many????
Your guess is as good as mine. I only know about Bill because I read the interview he gave Playboy back in '94.
.
48 posted on 01/08/2006 6:42:50 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: wagglebee
Brings back a few fond memories from my college days. I had some good times, some unbelievably crazy times. Only one bad trip and it was manageable. Everybody isolated from one another and freaked out privately in their own bedrooms. Other than that, good LSD is an experience that cannot be described properly to one who has never tried it. I don't regret ever trying it because most of the dozen or so times I ate acid the experience was an enjoyable one with lots of laughter and camaraderie.

I wouldn't touch the stuff now for a million bucks. Waaaaay too powerful!

49 posted on 01/08/2006 6:44:30 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

"I tripped on a cloud and fell eight miles high
I broke my mind on a jagged sky
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in"


50 posted on 01/08/2006 6:53:03 PM PST by Riverman94610
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