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Hamas demands return of Seville in internet children's magazine
Spain Herald ^ | 1-3-06

Posted on 01/03/2006 6:50:42 PM PST by SJackson

The children's website Al Fateh, property of the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, demands in its most recent issue the return of the Spanish city of Seville to the "lost paradise" of Al Andalus, as the Muslim part of Spain was called during its existence between 711 and 1492. The web magazine, whose name means "conqueror," says it is for "the young builders of the future."

The web magazine, whose name means "conqueror," includes an article in which the city of Seville itself is the narrator, saying, "I beg you, my loved ones, to call me to return along with the other cities of the lost paradise to Muslim hands so that happiness may reign in my lands. Dress me, for I am the bride of the land of Al Andalus."

"I was once the capital of the Kingdom of Seville, connected to the Atlantic by the Guadalquivir River. I wear around my neck the scarf of the most beautiful river, more than the Euphrates, the Tigris, and the Nile, where gondolas and fishing boats navigate for 24 miles, under the trees with the singing of the birds," the article says.

The Al Fateh website says it is for "the young builders of the future." It contains, along with typical children's content like drawings, poetry, and stories, a great deal of references to resistence and martyrdom. Its main subjects are Palestine and the Arab and Muslim worlds, especially their religious aspect. The lives and deaths of the Palestinian "martyrs," many of them suicide bombers, are a constant theme, as well as descriptions of important cities in Muslim history.

This particular article tells the story of Asbilia, the Arabic name for Seville, in language understandable to the smallest children. It explains that the city "was the capital of the Kingdom of Seville." The history of the city begins, according to Al Fateh, with the Muslim conquest. The story ends when Seville was reconquered by King Fernando III, and concludes, "So the golden age of the Muslims who lost me ended, but the marks of their civilization remain."

"The lost paradise of Al Andalus," explicitly mentioned in the text, is a common meme in the Muslim world. It has led to concrete fatwas declared in order to recover territories conquered by Christian "infidels," such as that of three years ago by the Islamist sheik Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, which explicitly says that "Islam will return to Europe as the conqueror." Al-Qaradhawi is the leader of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, the president of the International Association of Muslim Scholars, and the spiritual leader of many other Islamist organizations around the world.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; andalus; appeasement; eu; europe; hamas; holywar; inourlifetime; islamonazism; jihad; spain; theworldismine

1 posted on 01/03/2006 6:50:44 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Fine, they have to give back any holdings in the holy land and take their stupid black rock with them.


2 posted on 01/03/2006 6:52:12 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: SJackson

The Islamics think that they own everything they ever stole.
And everything else.


3 posted on 01/03/2006 6:53:29 PM PST by VOA
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking the keyword Israel.

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Anyone who reads Arabic, from the "kids" site, what does this mean? To me it appears to be a US interstate sign.


4 posted on 01/03/2006 6:53:31 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: SJackson

Any place a member of the death cult drops a steaming "worm writing pile" become holy to all Islam


5 posted on 01/03/2006 6:53:39 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee
Any place a member of the death cult drops a steaming "worm writing pile" become holy to all Islam

If their horses drop a pile, that counts too.

6 posted on 01/03/2006 6:58:04 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: SJackson

Hey, if they bomb a few more trains the current Spanish government might just give it back to 'em.


7 posted on 01/03/2006 7:01:55 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: satchmodog9

I'm thinkin' the black rock at Mecca would make a lot of cool book ends. I'm looking for investors who want in at the ground level after Islam gets nuked flat.


8 posted on 01/03/2006 7:03:12 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: Billthedrill

Beat me to it


9 posted on 01/03/2006 7:06:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SJackson
OK, now that I have read the comic book version, I can't help but let curiosity lead me to learn reality. when was Seville founded? I suspect by the Romans, when Spain was known as Iberia.

Although I have been to Spain many times and have dug through a lot of its history, this fact escapes me.

10 posted on 01/03/2006 7:08:38 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Publius6961
OK, now that I have read the comic book version, I can't help but let curiosity lead me to learn reality. when was Seville founded? I suspect by the Romans, when Spain was known as Iberia.

Doesn't matter. They were there, it's theirs.

11 posted on 01/03/2006 7:10:03 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: Publius6961
For centuries analysts and chroniclers gave the honour of tracing Seville's limits to that most popular of mythical heroes, Hercules.He marked with 6 columns the spot where Julius Caesar would later found the city of Seville. The illustrious Roman general called the new city Iulia Romula Hispalis: Iulia after himself, Romula in honour of Rome and Hispalis, according to Saint Isidore in his Etymologies, because many of the buildings had wooden piles driven into the ground as foundations. Subsequent historical researches into the founding of Seville have to this day been unable to correct this popular belief in Seville´s mythical origins to such an extent that it is celebrated in a popular verse:

Just as I suspected, the classic retards of the Levant are smoking funny stuff again!

Reality

12 posted on 01/03/2006 7:16:30 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: SJackson

Where are the Spaniards asking for Islamic governments to pay reparations?


13 posted on 01/03/2006 7:18:42 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: SJackson

Pass the popcorn...


14 posted on 01/03/2006 7:23:14 PM PST by American in Singapore (Liberals: They even lie in their diaries)
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To: SJackson

Doesn't even matter if it "was" there, everything belongs to this "master race". There are some Imam on the internet who claim that Allah put all of these riches in America for "them".

It is a horrible political system, one that rivals Marxism and Nazism. The religion is just a cover. It is a form of government. Slaves seized in jihad must be taken to an "Islamic territory" to be divided up. The left mocked the flyover states in 2004 by labelling that part of the US/Election Map "Jesusland". Jesus knows no borders. Muslims do.


15 posted on 01/03/2006 7:23:17 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I'm thinkin' the black rock at Mecca would make a lot of cool book ends.

I saw in another post, an article where the writer says if you really want to screw the Muslims then hijack the Black Rock and put it into orbit.

All observant Muslims have to turn to it 5 times a day for prayer. Hard to do when it's circling the earth every 90 minutes.

16 posted on 01/03/2006 7:26:52 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Alouette

The sign in 4, is that a warning?


17 posted on 01/03/2006 7:29:44 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: SJackson

Claim Texas. And them try to come and take it, biatches.


18 posted on 01/03/2006 7:34:46 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: manic4organic

Sorry, then, not them. I'm a bit pissed (both ways).


19 posted on 01/03/2006 7:35:41 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Publius6961
Very interesting. I knew that Julius Caesar had founded Seville, but not the Hercules bit.

And even when Seville was taken over by the Moors, it most assuredly was not ruled by the ancestors of present day Palestinians.

20 posted on 01/03/2006 7:39:01 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SJackson

It translates to: "The number sixty-seven."

I don't know what they mean by it.


21 posted on 01/03/2006 7:41:04 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

Sixty seven or seventy six? Is that from the arabic? It's a strange sign.


22 posted on 01/03/2006 7:52:51 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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To: SJackson
The Islamikazes smell weakness. They know that many Westerners would rather give them other people`s lands and possessions (ie Israel) rather than confront them and fight them. They know that now is the time to make demands. And when enough weak-kneed Western fools achieve power and start giving them what they want, the Islamikazes will discover new things that they have a "right" to.

All it will take is one ineffectual crowd-pleaser to bring ruin on us all. We`re only one Jimmy Carter away from disaster.

23 posted on 01/03/2006 8:03:59 PM PST by Alien Gunfighter (Socialist liberals never imagine themselves as peasants under their 'perfect' socialist regime)
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To: Alien Gunfighter

Spain sure must be glad they got out of the terrorist fightin' bidness. Here come those dividends.


24 posted on 01/03/2006 8:13:11 PM PST by eddie2 (Happy New Year)
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To: SJackson

Wow! Who would have ever guessed that this would happen?


25 posted on 01/03/2006 8:18:25 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: eddie2
Spain sure must be glad they got out of the terrorist fightin' bidness. Here come those dividends.

Exactly. And we know the thought process--"Well, I don`t live in Seville, so I guess it`s ok to give it to them..."

26 posted on 01/03/2006 8:43:38 PM PST by Alien Gunfighter (Socialist liberals never imagine themselves as peasants under their 'perfect' socialist regime)
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To: SJackson

Bump.


27 posted on 01/03/2006 11:51:36 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; StillProud2BeFree; DAVEY CROCKETT; Rushmore Rocks; WestCoastGal; LucyT; ...

What does the sign in post 4 mean?


28 posted on 01/03/2006 11:54:12 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: SJackson

Muslims should get out of Medina and immediately return it to the jews.

And apologize for Mohammad beheading and taking slaves of the jews.


29 posted on 01/04/2006 3:45:02 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: SJackson

Muslims should get out of Lebanon, Egypt, etc., and return them to the Christians.


30 posted on 01/04/2006 3:48:11 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: SJackson; Alouette; Salem
Dear Hamastinians,

We have read your latest demand (well, you heathens are always demanding some damn thing or another, so what else is new?). We must regretfully inform you that once again your demands cannot and will not be met by anyone with a remote connection to civilization, decency and common sense. Therefore, we would like to suggest that you take all of your demands, including this new one for Seville, place them where the sun don't shine, and rotate like a spinning top.

In other words, demand this, you allahu fubarheads:


31 posted on 01/04/2006 6:30:17 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, stop sending my tax money to Hamastine!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; StillProud2BeFree

Don't know. Perhaps Laura will check in.


32 posted on 01/04/2006 6:39:49 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: SJackson

If you look at the demographic trends in Europe, all the arabs have to do to reclaim Seville is wait a generation. The city will be empty, except for nonogenarians.


33 posted on 01/04/2006 6:41:58 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: SJackson

You can have Seville sir...... all you have to do is take it.


34 posted on 01/04/2006 6:44:18 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: SJackson
Why don't we all just pack our belongings and move every non-mooselimb to Antartica.

Oh, wait - that's mooselimb holy land too.
35 posted on 01/04/2006 6:47:47 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: SJackson

Yes, it is 67, but I don't know the significance. I speak jive :)


36 posted on 01/04/2006 7:17:09 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Billthedrill

Give it to 'em. Is there anything in Spain worth holding onto?


37 posted on 01/04/2006 7:28:40 AM PST by quadrant
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To: SJackson; Velveeta

It says 67

Without checking the context, it appears to be a reference to the 1967 war, when Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Golan, Gaza, and Sinai.


38 posted on 01/04/2006 8:35:30 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree (http://www.lauramansfield.com)
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To: quadrant

Wine. Spanish women. And...uh...


39 posted on 01/04/2006 10:41:01 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I accept your reasons - and I have no third reason.


40 posted on 01/04/2006 11:10:49 AM PST by quadrant
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Thank you.


41 posted on 01/04/2006 1:05:53 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: SJackson

It was posited some years ago that eventually, as long as the Palestinian leadership never sought real peace with Israel, that the philosophical aims of Al Queda and the Palestinian terrorist groups would merge.

It is now clear, from the movements of Zarqawi in Iraq, that not only are the philosophical aims of the radical Palestinians and Al Queda in the process of converging, but so are their military aims as well.

It is probably well known, in official US and Israel circles, and under-reported even in Israel, that Al Queda, Hamas and Hezbollah are linking up militarily in Gaza.


42 posted on 01/04/2006 2:14:30 PM PST by Wuli
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To: SJackson; Alouette; Cindy; Yehuda

In light of Hamas' recent victory...
This story deserves a bit more attention


43 posted on 01/31/2006 1:46:17 PM PST by abu afak (abuafak@yahoo.ie)
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To: abu afak
Not just Seville, all of Spain, southern France, Sicily, Rome. Maybe Paris if the riots were a conquest. And not just childrens books. From their charter.

Article Eleven:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

It happened like this: When the leaders of the Islamic armies conquered Syria and Iraq, they sent to the Caliph of the Moslems, Umar bin-el-Khatab, asking for his advice concerning the conquered land - whether they should divide it among the soldiers, or leave it for its owners, or what? After consultations and discussions between the Caliph of the Moslems, Omar bin-el-Khatab and companions of the Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, it was decided that the land should be left with its owners who could benefit by its fruit. As for the real ownership of the land and the land itself, it should be consecrated for Moslem generations till Judgement Day. Those who are on the land, are there only to benefit from its fruit. This Waqf remains as long as earth and heaven remain. Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

"Verily, this is a certain truth. Wherefore praise the name of thy Lord, the great Allah." (The Inevitable - verse 95).


44 posted on 01/31/2006 2:07:54 PM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
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To: abu afak

GIVE THEM SPAIN.

& GIVE RUSSIA TO THE CHECHENS.


45 posted on 01/31/2006 3:18:48 PM PST by Yehuda ("Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!" (Choke on it, pinkos!))
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To: SJackson

Hamas is a part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Zawahiri's outfit. Their agenda is global Jihad not just Israeli domination.

That makes Hamas a world problem. Look out for the influx of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah to Gaza.


46 posted on 02/01/2006 12:41:23 PM PST by dervish (Hamastan " the step-child of Iran and the Taliban")
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To: quadrant

El Greco.


47 posted on 02/01/2006 12:43:24 PM PST by dervish (Hamastan " the step-child of Iran and the Taliban")
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To: SJackson
Hamas demands return of Seville in internet children's magazine

And the Muslims will be successful in retaking the Iberian Peninsula
if they don't wake up soon.

In David Ensor's one-hour special on CNN, the contrast of France and Spain's
anti-terrorism tactics was stunning.
The French are pretty hardcore with their domestic terrorists;
the Spanish Socialists have adopted a kumbiyah approach.

Yes, the Spanish Muslim they interviewed was smiling about how
much he liked the approach of the Spanish guvmint.
48 posted on 02/01/2006 1:16:18 PM PST by VOA
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To: SJackson
Is anyone else getting as tired of this muzzy BS as I am? If these savages in filthy night shirts think they can take Seville then I say bring it on! These clowns haven't mounted a credible military campaign in over five hundred years. The only reason these dufuses strap on explosives and murder innocent women and children is because the thought of attacking an actual soldier makes them pee their pants. They really are cowards at hart. They can't even face life. The real reason that they dress their women in tents is because they know that given half a chance, the women would choose virtually anyone else but them. Where as I am proud to be seen in public with my attractive wife; these cretins are afraid that their women would leave with the first decent man they meet. They are pathetic little men who's only way to get a sense of power in their sad little lives is to lord it over their women. We really really need to switch to nuclear power and put Achmed back on his Camel. The sooner the better.
49 posted on 02/03/2006 4:52:07 PM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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