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Bad Moon Risen: Leakers 'Purest' Motives; 'Opposite of Plame'; 'Radicalization' of Foreign Policy
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/03/2006 5:23:36 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The leaker(s) made a call. They(he/she) decided on their own accord that Bush did not have the authority to do what he was doing. If the courts back up the leaker(s) they are whistel blowers. If Bush is right and he did have the authority then the leaker(s) becomes a traitor.


21 posted on 01/03/2006 5:54:32 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You had more of a radicalization, in which the career professionals were not really given a chance to forge a consensus within the administration.

Forge a consensus? Good grief! We have Al Qeada doing everything in its power to obtain the resources to nuke major American cities. They have already amply demonstrated they will not hesitate to attack us, killing as many innocent Americans as possible, and this idiot expects the POTUS to forge a consensus before we do what it takes to prevent this? Forge a consensus with whom, those on the left who have demonstrated time and again that they will opposed the Bush Administration on anything and everything, including national security, simply because they hate the man?

22 posted on 01/03/2006 5:56:04 AM PST by alnick
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Katie musta seen the polling data that showed Americans support the NSA eavesdropping about 3-1. These are poor odds for the MSM to overcome and Katie is willing to move on to other topics.


23 posted on 01/03/2006 5:56:33 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"True, but surely not in the way Risen meant it. The Plame case involved the 'revealing' of the identity of someone apparently already well-known in many DC circles to be a CIA employee, and a desk jockey at that who had not worked abroad in many years. The NSA affair involves the compromising of a current intelligence operation aimed at America's deadliest enemies."

Great report. I'm glad I missed the interview, really. I am so angry and I want this investigation wrapped up yesterday.

The final line , of this report (above), is woefully inadequate. We have lost a number of great Americans. Fellow citizens who have died while protecting US. The NSA affair involves much, much more than simply the compromising of a current intelligence operation aimed at America's deadliest enemies. The NSA Affair (or more aptly put-the Times Affair) involves compromising LIVES-those of our Armed Services and those of every and any American in the US.


24 posted on 01/03/2006 5:56:45 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-WELCOME HOME Ohio's NG 316th Engineer Batallion!WELCOME HOME!)
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To: LibSnubber
"Time and again, Risen defended his sources as having the "purest" and "best" motives, springing entirely for their concern for the rule of law."

Why do they remain anonymous then?

25 posted on 01/03/2006 5:57:23 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: digitaldallas
No crap. When should our foreign policy or defense be a left wing ideal.
26 posted on 01/03/2006 5:57:40 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Puke time as Risen identified his leakers as "patriots".


And just like tar baby, Risen don't know nuthin bout no NYT decision to hold the story for over a year till his book is ready for publication. "Above your paygrade?", Katie suggested. Risen appreciated Katie's response by nodding in agreement, and he must have liked it even better when Katie equated his dodge to one Norman Schwartz often used.


Today on IMUS, Howard Fineman gave a legitimate reason why TNYT covered Risen's revelations at this particular time. Fineman told Imus it was because the Times was tired of getting scooped by their own reporters, and they published book excerpts before the book was published so that wouldn't happen this time. (buncha bull)


27 posted on 01/03/2006 5:58:37 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Mo1
Exactly, what are the slime-ball leaker's worried about? If they did it out of legal concerns then they fall under the whistle-blowers status and wouldn't have to fear prosecution.
28 posted on 01/03/2006 5:59:20 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Mo1
If these leaker's are sooooooooooooooooo proud of what they did...

Exactly. If their motives were so pure and noble, let them step forward and take a bow.

29 posted on 01/03/2006 6:01:33 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: YaYa123
Fineman told Imus it was because the Times was tired of getting scooped by their own reporters, and they published book excerpts before the book was published so that wouldn't happen this time. (buncha bull)

Sounds like this is the new talking point

And scooped by what reporters??

Jason Blair??

30 posted on 01/03/2006 6:04:16 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: LibSnubber

I would bet that the Democrats leaked this story...this is just Risen tryig to cover the backside of the Chuckie, or Teddie...one of those POS Senators did this.


31 posted on 01/03/2006 6:05:14 AM PST by nyconse
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To: alnick

As Margaret Thatcher said (paraphrasing), "Concensus is what you get when you don't have leadership." Thank God that the administration is trying to save our lives rather than arrive at concensus!


32 posted on 01/03/2006 6:11:21 AM PST by CinnamonBear
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To: nyconse

"I would bet that the Democrats leaked this story...this is just Risen tryig to cover the backside of the Chuckie, or Teddie...one of those POS Senators did this."

Snort... The thought of Teddie being described as having "pure" motives that spring from his concern for the rule of law somehow amuses me - thoroughly.


33 posted on 01/03/2006 6:15:30 AM PST by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Even if one uses the standards of "good leak/bad leak" apparently favored by the MSM, one could certainly argue that the American peopele had a right to know that Joe Wilson was a blowhard and political hack whose wife helped him get the Niger mission.

And apparently NO CRIME was committed in bringing her up! No surprise that that point does not resonate with the Democrats.


34 posted on 01/03/2006 6:22:58 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

-Time and again, Risen defended his sources as having the "purest" and "best" motives, springing entirely for their concern for the rule of law.-

1. Risen knew what he was publishing, and should be thrown in jail with the rest of them.
2. He didn't bother to fact check the law!
3. He is scum (this could also be #1).
4. Couric is scum (OK, that's a freebie).


35 posted on 01/03/2006 6:28:44 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: YaYa123

Risen says that career employees risked their lives (pretty much literally, they could go to jail for life without parole if discovered). He says they did so for pure motives, I presume that means they thought it was imperative that they STOP this move by Bush as quickly as possible.

Except that, instead of talking to a beat reporter for a newspaper that would publish their story the next week, they talked to a guy writing a book that held the story for over a year.

Further, this guy, who seems to agree with them that their motives are pure and americans were having their rights trampled, decided that the rights of americans wasn't really nearly so important as his making a lot of money on his book sales.

In other words, if we accept at face value everything Risen is saying, we are left with the inescapable conclusion that the leakers are idiots, and he is a self-centered, greedy money-grubber.


36 posted on 01/03/2006 6:32:11 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You don't suppose these were the same dumba$$e$ that "helped" Jimmy Carter, do you? (note sarcasm tag attached)


37 posted on 01/03/2006 6:39:50 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did anybody ask Risen why he committed this treason right around the same time he published his book?


38 posted on 01/03/2006 6:41:06 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The "power grabbing" was being attempted by the "career professionals"!
39 posted on 01/03/2006 6:46:04 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The motive - disgruntled careerists - is entirely plausible. I wonder about the timing...Maybe Porter Goss is starting to smoke these weasels out of the bushes, and that's why the leaks are coming fast and furious?


40 posted on 01/03/2006 6:47:26 AM PST by happyathome
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