Posted on 12/28/2005 11:40:33 AM PST by presidio9
President Bush December 19 sent warm greetings to all who are celebrating Kwanzaa -- a seven-day observance emphasizing seven principles of African culture.
Kwanzaa, which will begin December 26, represents an African-American and pan-African holiday celebrating family, community and culture.
For additional information see Holidays and African Americans.
Following is the text of the statement:
THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary December 19, 2005
December 2005
I send greetings to those observing Kwanzaa.
African Americans and people around the world reflect on African heritage during Kwanzaa. The seven days of this celebration emphasize the seven principles of Nguzo Saba -- unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith. These values contribute to a culture of citizenship and compassion, and Kwanzaa activities help pass on African values and traditions to future generations.
As families and friends gather for Kwanzaa, Americans remember the many contributions African Americans have made to our country's character and celebrate the diversity that makes our Nation strong. May your commitment to family, faith, and community thrive during this holiday season and throughout the coming year.
Laura and I send our best wishes for a happy Kwanzaa.
It's like a menorah on crack-cocaine.
Are these even real words?
That's a keeper!
It's about time that President Bush recognized all of us aggrieved citizens.
To the airing of grievances!
:))
Ah, yes, Swahili, the language spoken by the slave traders who Captured sold the ancestors of most black Americans into slavery--doesn't anybody learn history anymore? Obviously not.
Happy New Year!
I glanced through this thread. I think I'll pass as I've gone around this issues too many times with the same ugly comments being said. I'm convinced some people wake up and thank God they're white.
I doubt it since it's made up by a sick, brutal, torturing mo-fo.
But he has his followers; just like the sick, brutal, torturing mo-hammed.
Followers of either of these so-called "religions" can and will go straight to hell.
Their religions are based upon torture, blood, death, and murder.
Period.
I new here, so maybe you could answer a question for me: In the upcoming year should I continue posting things that get the most people talking, regardless of how that portrays FR to lurkers, or should I start posting State Legislature Agendas to "Breaking News" like we have some sort of nobel civic mission here?
no idea but some people just can't resist airing their lack of tact.
Mr.President do some research. Kwanzaa is NOT recognized nor celebrated in Africa
You are right, Nazis and Klansmen compare quite well to people whose worst crime is celebrating a made up holiday.
Not that anyone in this forum ever celebrates made up Holidays such as Mother's Day or Father's Day.
Will you be whining about President Bush wishing us a Happy Mother's or Father;s Day later this year?
"...is, in fact, a holiday based upon racial hatred and violence"i
Passover is a holiday based on the killing of all the first-born children of Egypt by God.
Purim, is a Holiday surrounded in death and murder.
Until the day that Kwanzaa celebrants, and not the nut jobs that you like holding up as representative of all the people who participate in this celebration, behave in a manner even closely resembling Nazis or Klansmen, Kwanzaa celebrants are simply Americans enjoying the freedom to celebrate whatever it is that they wish to celebrate.
You are a bigot, always have been.
Your broad-brushed generalizations of people based on religious beliefs, ethnicity,or race, and grounded on "examples" drawn from the lowest members of those religions, ethnicities or races, are well-known to all. Your participation in this unbelievably racist thread, your defense of the racist statements made in it via your failure to condemn them, paints a clear picture of who, and what, you are.
May God forgive you.
Matthew 7:1
And you're full of steaming feces and you have always been.
From a previous post in this thread that you apparently failed to read:
And before anyone invokes Godwin's Law, let me say that the Nazis however egregious their crimes and their evil are responsible for less death and destruction than the so-called "African values" celebrated by Kwanzaa that have existed and do exist today in Africa (see massacres, ethnic cleansing, machete attacks, man-made famines, etc). Further, their murderous efforts fall far short of the widespread death caused by socialism (over 100 million in the past century) which is another tenant of Kwanzaa and its founder. The comparison between the tenants of Naziism and Kwanzaaism is relevant. The point is that President Bush sends out official Kwanzaa greetings with an official Presidential proclamation when he would never for a microsecond consider sending out similar greetings (as worded above) to those who celebrate Hitler's birthday and Nazi beliefs.
You are right, Nazis and Klansmen compare quite well to people whose worst crime is celebrating a made up holiday.
You've completely ignored the truth about the origins, intent, and the founder of Kwanzaa which has been posted at length in this and other threads.
Not that anyone in this forum ever celebrates made up Holidays such as Mother's Day or Father's Day. Will you be whining about President Bush wishing us a Happy Mother's or Father;s Day later this year?
So, holiday's celebrating motherhood and fatherhood are somehow comparable to a holiday invented by a sadistic and violent racist black nationalist gangleader to spread Marxist racial revolution in America? You're messed up.
Passover is a holiday based on the killing of all the first-born children of Egypt by God.
Please keep up such inane and idiotic remarks so that you can be further discredited by the same.
Until the day that Kwanzaa celebrants, and not the nut jobs that you like holding up as representative of all the people who participate in this celebration, behave in a manner even closely resembling Nazis or Klansmen, Kwanzaa celebrants are simply Americans enjoying the freedom to celebrate whatever it is that they wish to celebrate.
Again, you've failed to address the origin, founder, and stated intent of the Kwanzaa. You keep pretending that it is benign with silly costumes and customs. Please address the stated intent and goals of its founder and official keepers of the tradition and cease your willful ignorance.
Your broad-brushed generalizations of people based on religious beliefs, ethnicity,or race, and grounded on "examples" drawn from the lowest members of those religions, ethnicities or races, are well-known to all. Your participation in this unbelievably racist thread, your defense of the racist statements made in it via your failure to condemn them, paints a clear picture of who, and what, you are.
I participate in the Kwanzaa threads precisely because I am against the inherant racism and other detestable aspects of Kwanzaa, its founder, and its intent. To label me a racist because I am condemning racism is truly stupid. And you're calling people and their comments racist has becoming a running joke on Free Republic as it always seems to be your M.O. in the border security threads and now the Kwanzaa threads. It is not my job nor do I have the time to respond to every statement that may be construed as racist in every thread I participate in. I certainly don't agree with any racist comments but I'm not going to waste my time with the racists and will let the admin mods clean up that garbage. I guess because you're participating in the same thread or are a poster on the same forum that contains such racist comments, you too are a racist - if I use your logic. I'm sure that someone, somewhere could construe your comments about Passover and Purim as anti-semetic too. But, unlike you, most people aren't so illogical and don't look at the world through racially based lenses.
I see that you have both sides of your mouth going again.
Now, you want to tie the celebration of African heritage with Africe.
Hypocrite.
I read the tenants of Kwanzaa, and I understand, as do all people with any level of intelligence understand, just what a gigantic bigot you are.
You are pounding your "the founder of Kwanzaa" drum still?
You insist on visiting his sins on others?
Bigot.
Now you try to excuse off the fact that YOU accept some made up Holidays, and you don't accept absurd comparisons unless YOU make those absurd comparisons yourself?
Hypocrite.
Who cares who invented the Holiday?
The peopl celebrating it are not celebrating either his birth, or his beliefs.
They are celebrating their own sense of heritage...wh8ich is what truly bothers you.
Bigot.
I participate in the Kwanzaa threads precisely because I am against the inherant racism and other detestable aspects of Kwanzaa, its founder, and its intent."
The typical response of the rabid bigot.
How others celebrate their heritage is none of your concern.
Bigot.
You don't get it. It is NOT their heritage. It is NOT African heritage no matter how it tries to be African heritage. It is a FALSE heritage dressed up in pseudo-African garb and language designed specifically to lull the gullible into accepting racist black nationalist and Marxist ideas. It is PURELY the invention of Ron Everett. It is not African. It is a tool to further Everett's racist goals.
The goals of the founder of Kwanzaa and his intent for Kwanzaa cannot be separated from Kwanzaa. The more people who ignorantly celebrate Kwanzaa and accept its "values" are more people who are accepting the underlying black nationalist Marxism designed into the "holiday" by its founder.
Do you support the establishment of a seperate black nation within the borders of the United States?
Do you support a racially motivated "revolution" within the United States (ie. the shedding of blood mentioned in the black nationalist pledge and represented by the color red in the black nationalist flag and within Kwanzaa)?
Do you support the spread of Marxism within the United States?
If your answer is no to any of these, then you can't accept Kwanzaa.
I'm not trying to ban the holiday or stop people from observing it. I simply want to register my strong objection to President Bush's official recognition of the racist and Marxist "holiday" and to back up my statements with facts about Kwanzaa, its founder, its origin, its intent, and its goals. You want to twist it into some racial thing, as you are so wont to do when you have no other argument, when it is not. Simply, the President should not have officially recognized the holiday and his statements about it were either made in ignorance or were pure political pandering.
So, you are the arbiter of how others celebrate; no wonder you admire and defend Nazis.
That's what is wrong with people like you; it isn't sufficient that you have freedom to celebrate whatever you wish to celebrate however you wish, you also have to dictate what and how others celebrate whatever they wish to celebrate.
You judge.
Do I support the establishment of a separate black nation?
What kind of stupidity are you spouting now?
Do you attribute whatever bulls%it extremists groups say to the larger segment of the population?
Of course you do; it's what bigots do.
Let's judge all Christians by the selective words and actions of a segment of Christians, shall we?
" Ultimately we must separate ourselves from the Blacks and other non-whites and keep ourselves separate, no matter what it takes to accomplish this. We must do this not because we hate Blacks, but because we cannot survive if we remain mixed with them. And we cannot survive if we permit the Jews and the traitors among us to remain among us and to repeat their treachery. Eventually we must hunt them down and get rid of them." - William Pierce, National Alliance 1997.
Idiots like you have been blabbing about an imminent racial revolution since my college days in the 1970's...where the hell is it, other than in your twisted heads.
"I'm not trying to ban the holiday or stop people from observing it. I simply want to register my strong objection to President Bush's official recognition of the racist and Marxist "holiday" "
More crap from you; the celebration is neither racist, nor Marxist.
I've been to a small Kwanzaa celebration, hosted by good friends, who are much better Christians than you are, and I've seen these "Marxist" principles.
They break down to basically a need to create a positive sense of self, to maintain a sense of heritage and family, to clean up their own communities by solving existing problems together, to build up the community through work, to beautify the community, to believe in one self, and the positive role models available.
Good Lord man!
What more could we possibly want from black America than a united effort at cleaning up their neighborhoods and their social problems?
Why would anyone, other than an abject bigot, try to throw dirt on such an innocuous, and positive event?
"You want to twist it into some racial thing"
How unbelievably hypocritical if you t say that.
I have now the same statement that I started this thread with...they are American citizens, just like I am, and he is their President just like he is mine.
You however, compared Kwanzaa celebrants to Nazis.
Bigot.
"The fight for freedom is God's fight. Freedom is an eternal law of God."
But people should not be free to celebrate Kwanzaa, and President Bush should not be free to acknowledge it.
Hypocrite.
By the way, forgive my rudeness, I forgot to wish you a Happy Klanzaa.
There's a HUGE Kwanzaa party not too far from where i live...saw it on a local news channel.
Brand new multicolored garb...2 dancers, dancing which seemed to me as a traditional * Elaine Shuffle *. 6 kids walking around waiting for santa to magically appear out of one of the 3 drums that were being thumped on.
Viewers were then invited to attend the festivities...where they promised dance, music and story telling.
I can just imagine the stories now...most of the africans that live where i'm from are from either Sudan, Rwanda, Cote D'Ivoire...
little drummer boy?
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