Posted on 12/27/2005 5:20:48 AM PST by .cnI redruM
Several Chinese companies involved in selling missile goods and chemical-arms materials to Iran have been hit with U.S. sanctions, Bush administration officials said yesterday.
The sanctions cover six Chinese government-run companies, two Indian firms and one Austrian company, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The penalties have been under consideration since April and were approved by Deputy Secretary of State Robert B. Zoellick within the past several weeks.
An announcement will be published in the U.S. government's Federal Register in the next several days -- and perhaps as early as today, the officials said.
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and they got their missile tech from , WHO?
>>>six Chinese government-run companies, two Indian firms and one Austrian company
I don't know, Clinton maybe?
China and Iran, strange bedfellows, no? Is it just business, or do the Chicoms have more sinister motives?
I wonder who the Iranians hired to get the oil out of Iran??
I don't agree. I think this IS the new war.
Who has the most to gain from the US expending our military budget on the War on Terror, leaving little left to take on other threats? Who has the most to gain from our existing military being restructured to fight a Third-world IED/guerilla conflict rather than an opponent with a huge conventional army and credible air force?
I think when it all comes out, we fill find that a lot of the Islamist players were Chinese proxies
"THis may be the build-up to a new war."
Seems they have been sanctioned before....
"The officials said that three of the Chinese companies have been sanctioned in the past for illicit arms transfers -- CATIC, NORINCO and Zibo.
"NORINCO is a serial proliferator," one official said. "All these sanctions are for transfers to Iran."
The 2000 law requires the U.S. government to impose sanctions on companies or people that supply Iran with goods, services or technology related to nuclear weapons, missiles and toxic chemicals that can be used to make chemical arms.
Zibo is known to make glass-lined containers that can be used to make chemical weapons. CATIC and Norinco are involved in manufacturing missiles."
Well said!! Too bad this isn't covered by the media. Hopefully, America will wake up before it's too late.
Ping.
Study the Clinton years long enough, and the picture comes into focus, but good! I have been utterly shocked to see the Republican indifference when it came to China (and Mexico as a matter of fact).
How much of North Korea's program was Chinese derived? How much of Iran's current program was Chinese derived?
China's playing for keeps, and our leaders seem to just be playing.
We prevented Russia form gaining a foothold in Central and South America, but don't seem to think anything of China gaining a foothold there.
Boycott China, not Japan! LOL
Why, Halliburton, of course!
I think when it all comes out, we fill find that a lot of the Islamist players were Chinese proxies
Very insightful. And we cannot forget our enemy that we've got to fight right here at home in our own government: Democrats.
Remaining vigilant to prevent them from keeping our intelligence services and special ops from learning the truth is key.
The only hedge on selling out the American economy in favor of globalism that provides a potential enemy with the resources to build up it's military to regional strike capacity is the nuclear threat.
And in doing that a whole new can of worms has been opened.
China certainly gains yardage while we're engulfed by the GWOT. I wonder how China's Assassin's Mace development is doing?
Some people think that globalization can be stopped.
It can't, short of some apocalyptic WWIII that destroys the global infrastructure and transportation facilities.
The best that can be hoped is that it's managed. China has a huge advantage in global trade due to low wages. But as it continues to industrialize, those wages will increase. By 2030, China will have a larger economy that the US. Again, there's nothing we can do about that. They have a much greater population and they are managing their economy through fascist techniques. Fascism works, despite the other negative consequences of it.
At some point the Chinese leadership may be willing to loosen their fascist control in order to obtain the benefits of democracy and laissez faire economics. But that's not going to happen until they believe they've caught up with the west, probably sometime in the next 50 years. Until then, we're just going to have to live with it.
"My question is, what about countries that are in the immediate vicinity to the Chinese mainland?"
Soon to be tribute paying members of a Chinese Asian Empire.
"Show me a service economy and I'll show you a nation of servants."
... Mark Steyn, if I recall correctly.
We need to get back to buying American.
this is just for show
Hear, Hear...well said indeed!
I'll believe, as will China, when we put sanctions on all of China. Otherwise we are pissing on our own leg.
to understand and then believe "why"; one has to understand and believe congress doesn't have the best interests of the American people at heart, rather congress simply has full pockets of cash?
one has to believe something.....
I, at this point, would have to believe the "full pockets of cash" theory.
Is anything still made in America?
I agree with you in part, however I must disagree on another. America CAN do something about China's booming economy. Pass legislation penalizing China for manipulating it's currency thus giving unfair advantage in trade.
Apply sanctions for bad behavior, apply tariffs, enact legislation limiting the amount of capital U.S. corps can invest in the Chinese economy. Demand the trade gap become balanced or stop importing goods from China.
Now that's funny.
Now that's even funnier.
"Is anything still made in America?"
Well, Graco still makes their car seats here...so far anyway.
Thank goodness my car seat days are over! LOL
This will have absolutely no affect at all unless the government of China is sanctioned. The trade will continue through a maze of shell companies, partnerships, and joint ventures. its kind of like peeing your self in a dark suit. It might make you feel warm for a little while, but no body is going to notice.
"Hopefully, America will wake up before it's too late."
Sadly, when did America ever wake up before it was too late? Fortunatley, we know how to even the score and move ahead better than anyone.
The Columbus dispatch did an article about INsourcing. In Ohio, 1 out of 20 jobs are from foreign companies or about 220,000 jobs with Honda being the largest foreign employer. So a lot of jobs are actually coming here.
"Sadly, when did America ever wake up before it was too late? Fortunatley, we know how to even the score and move ahead better than anyone."
True, but we never had as much war-usable industrial capacity burned away as we have. Evening the score and moving ahead might be at the cost of having to obliterate China with nukes in order to win any war with them.
IMO, Capitalist policies are the best policies there are when used internally. IMO, Capitalism between nations of disparaging standards of living, is the most pariac system there is. While one state grows and strengthens dispraportionately, the other weakens disproportionately.
Have our standards of living increased between 1990 and 2005, as much as they did at 15 year intervals from 1950 on? I don't think they have, and I believe our trade policies are the reason why.
We can point to bright spots to be sure. The question is, how many more bright spots would there have been if we had practiced the same policies that made our nation grow between 1940 and 1990?
A few years ago, we were the ONLY world nation that practiced a trade deficit with China. If it was such a great idea to do so, wouldn't you think one other nation would have bought into it?
IMO, we have sold our souls for the obvious reasons, resulting in the creation of a major world threat. If only those who benefited from this were the ones to take the brunt of the results, but then they never are.
I guess the flip side to that argument is that China is heavily invested in America that launching a war against us is unthinkable from their perspective.
China is still very much a work in progress. In the past 25 years it has abandoned communism in practice, although not in name. It is clearly a capitalist country today, although the heavy hand of government in regulating (and in partial ownership of) businesses reveals that it is now fascist.
That is a quantum improvement for the standard of living for the Chinese people, if nothing else. They will add another 1 million cars to Chinese roads in 2006. This is a country where only government officials and state monopolies had vehicles 30 years ago.
Chinese officials are remarkably candid today in discussing the moves they made since then. They openly admit that at the time of Tianamen Square, they faced a choice. Democracy or catching up to the west economically. They chose the latter in the hopes that democracy can wait. So far it's worked out for them.
I don't see China actively promoting its world view on anyone. Hell, they won't even do it in the one country most dependent on them, North Korea. If they won't do it there, I don't think we have anything to worry about with exported Chinese world views.
Let's not forget the attempted delivery of 2000 AK's to Los Angeles street gangs
"Thank goodness my car seat days are over! LOL"
Makes a good thing to donate to the needy too.
Believe me, by the time my kids had finished with theirs, no one would have wanted them. I did donate the cribs to the local agency for poor pregnant women, though.:)
"Believe me, by the time my kids had finished with theirs, no one would have wanted them."
I meant buying new ones for the purpose of donating them.
"I did donate the cribs to the local agency for poor pregnant women, though."
Sounds like a good idea for when our son is out of his.
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