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Who Killed Pat Tillman?
The Humanist ^ | January/February 2006 | Michael I. Niman

Posted on 12/26/2005 3:38:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: roostercogburn
Tillman's parents have been very outspoken. And they did, if the SF Chronicle isn't lying, confirm he was going to meet with Chomsky.

Interesting. If the quotes attributed to him are true, then he wouldn't be the only patriot who had a problem with the Iraq War.

Of course, Tillman could have been a card-carrying communist for all I care. He lived and died a hero in service to his country. I saulte him, and all who serve.

61 posted on 12/26/2005 5:35:43 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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Mr. Niman should avoid grown-up topics, such as war, and confine himself to this kind of thing.
62 posted on 12/26/2005 5:38:26 PM PST by dighton
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To: DJ Taylor

Hey...I am sometimes easly fooled...so I wanted to make sure..

I totally agree with your purpose for posting it...the author is an idiot.


63 posted on 12/26/2005 5:38:29 PM PST by Txsleuth (Merry Christmas everyone!!! Happy Hanukkah!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I do remember the little brother saying this at the funeral and just figured he was lashing out in bitterness at losing his big brother whom I am sure he idolized. scuse the run-on sentence
64 posted on 12/26/2005 5:39:10 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Wormwood

I agree with you that he was a patriot. He may though after a few years began to be a little bitter about his choice to turndown millions and began to buy into the horse---- that he was hearing from our wonderful MSM. That is probably why he began reading Chomsky. I just wonder had he lived what he would be saying right now about the war. Certainly a sad situation.


65 posted on 12/26/2005 5:40:02 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: manwiththehands; Theresawithanh
This article is confusing.

I don't understand how much more clear this sentence can be:

"On April 22, 2004, Tillman was killed while on patrol in Afghanistan by three American bullets to the head."

He died in Afghanistan.

66 posted on 12/26/2005 5:40:40 PM PST by paulat
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To: Paul Ross

Oliver Stone will probably make a movie about the conspiracy!


67 posted on 12/26/2005 5:42:33 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: roostercogburn
I just wonder had he lived what he would be saying right now about the war. Certainly a sad situation.

Who knows? I just hope that Freepers don't start trashing him if it turns out that Tillman was against the Iraq war.

68 posted on 12/26/2005 5:42:50 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It looks like the highly esteemed The Nation is piling on as well.

Maybe the meeting with Chomsky was to kick his a$$?
69 posted on 12/26/2005 5:43:57 PM PST by PleaDeal (Bill Whittle for Pres. in '08)
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To: roostercogburn

I don't know...I just cannot figure out why someone would do what he did...for the reason he did it..

and be a fan of Noam Chomsky...

If he was a fan of Chomsky before he signed up...it REALLY doesn't make sense...and if he started reading Chomsky after he enlisted...something must have happened while in the military to knock him completely sideways.


70 posted on 12/26/2005 5:45:20 PM PST by Txsleuth (Merry Christmas everyone!!! Happy Hanukkah!!)
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To: Wormwood

I doubt that freepers will start to trash him. In fact I am sure that we won't. We are unlike our counterparts on the left, who absolutely trashed his name , calling him babykiller, fool, jock, musclehead etc... Remember the Ted Rall cartoon? That of course was before this little bit of info on him possibly being against the war. Now he will be their darling. They will do what they are chastising repubs for doing. Using his memory for political gains. Bastards.


71 posted on 12/26/2005 5:48:02 PM PST by roostercogburn
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To: paulat

I know he died in Afghanistan, I thought your question was where does it say in this article that he died in Iraq. Sorry if I misunderstood.

I posted a link earlier from an article written when Tillmn died that he had died in Afghanistan.


72 posted on 12/26/2005 5:49:02 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: roostercogburn

I hope you are right. I really do.


73 posted on 12/26/2005 5:49:04 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Theresawithanh
I thought your question was where does it say in this article that he died in Iraq.

I DID ask that. NOWHERE in this article does it say he died in Iraq!!

74 posted on 12/26/2005 5:52:24 PM PST by paulat
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To: Wormwood

"I just hope that Freepers don't start trashing him if it turns out that Tillman was against the Iraq war."

I contend that this is completely irrelevant. He died in Afghanistan, serving our country. He's not a hero because he died, he's a hero because of the way he attempted to support a unit that was pinned down by ENEMY fire. The fact he was killed by friendly fire, though tragic, does not change anything.

RIP, Thank you for your service, Pat Tillman.


75 posted on 12/26/2005 6:00:22 PM PST by gate2wire
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ted Rall still has an a$$kicking by me waiting for him.


76 posted on 12/26/2005 6:01:36 PM PST by rintense
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To: paulat; Theresawithanh
This article is confusing. The media reports even more so. I didn't know Tillman was first sent to Iraq. Then he was sent to Afghanistan where he was killed.

Got it.

77 posted on 12/26/2005 6:10:39 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Laura and I send our best wishes for a happy Kwanzaa." -President George W. Bush 12/19/2005)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Ranger commanders received a report the day after his death stating that Tillman died in a suspected act of fratricide, the crime of killing members of your own group.

Fratricide applies whether or not the killing was accidental or intentional. I've never heard a whisper of anything to suggest that the killing was intentional.

Now, the Rangers are aren't always the brightest bulbs, but it'd be 80 below and raining ice cubes in Satan's back yard before they'd bump off one of their own for some political BS. Anyone that knows any Rangers knows that this 'political cover-up killing' theory is about as plausible as saying that JFK's death was a suicide.

78 posted on 12/26/2005 6:19:12 PM PST by Steel Wolf (If the Founders had wanted the President to be spying on our phone calls, they would have said so!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
... when he was killed, the last words Tillman shouted before being shot were, "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat F***ing Tillman, dammit!"

You can always spot the liberals' fantasies about the military in lines klike this one. It's so bogus.

79 posted on 12/26/2005 6:33:50 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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To: Tax Government

The only meeting with Chomsky would have been to kick his commie ass...


80 posted on 12/26/2005 6:34:46 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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