Skip to comments.Did Bush willingly commit a ZOT? Please say it ain't so
Posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by always thr constitution
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Lincoln didn't say that...
I heard Rush misquote that this morning...
So is that a Zotted Rat or snake?
Did that hurt?
I think rat
Are you convinced yet that your little collective attack via FR isn't going to work?
How lame can you be?
I posted an article which shows that some Republicans also disagree. What do you mean by a "collective attack"?
The Forum equivalent of "seminar" callers on talk radio. Several people collectively reinforcing each other's posts and agreeing to do so ahead of time, to boost perceived credibility.
I always assumed people did that sort of thing. What a way to spend your time. No, I just posted a link to an editorial.
That saying has been attributed to Lincoln in numerous sources regarding his suspension of habeus corpus and the Supreme Court declaring it unconstitutional (he ignored them).
Whose fact checkers are you going to trust. Rush's or the fake but accurate MSM?
OK, so the proposed situation is that Al Gore or John Kerry has decided to do wiretaps on people who are talking to Al-Qaeda operatives.
I would be absolutely fine with it.
First, I do believe quite firmly that this falls under prosecuting the war (see Soviet example below).
Second, I see no reason that the President should be considered guilty until proven innocent on this, and I would carry that over to President Gore or President Kerry if we were in that fix. Bush says that they went around the FISA court because of time issues. That is either the truth or a lie. Since the FISA court has been friendly to the administration and those spyed on are perfectly legitimate targets under FISA jurisdiction, I see no motivation other than the one stated to go around FISA. If you know of one, you can let me know.
Now that I've answered that, let me ask you a few questions:
1. Why are you holding the President guilty until proven innocent in this matter?
2. Where is your outrage against the punks who leaked this?
3. Where is your outrage against members of Congress who hae known about and helped approve this activity and are now acting shocked, shocked that this has been going on?
4. Why don't war powers cover this if the citizen is communicating with enemy personnel? We're not talking about somebody calling Tehran to talk to a mullah, we're talking about someone talking to an Al-Qaeda operative.
5. Here's a scenario and a question. It's the height of the Cold War, and the FBI suspects that ana American citizen living near Otis Air Force base in Massachusetts is a Soviet agent. They have evidence that he has been speaking to person in the Soviet Union whose expertise is the study of our air defense. The pattern of his calls suggests he may be advising them of activity during exercises at the base. Otis is responsible for guarding Air approaches to New York City, among other things. There is a major Soviet Naval Aviation exercise scheduled to begin in the next few hours and this guy has placed two or three calls to the Soviet analyst in just the last three hours, even though there is no activity going on at the base. The FBI agent looking at the case says, "I don't want to be alarmist, but this guy could be advising them of flight activity at the base so they can sneak some bombers through. This guy could be telling them the coast is clear, or he could be getting instructions for a sabotage mission of some sort."
Court approval will take to the end of the day at least. Do you tap the guy's phone or not?
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