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Michael Medved: "Is Spielberg Right to Compare the Palestinian Terrorists with Israeli Response?"
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Posted on 12/19/2005 1:17:51 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

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To: Cinnamon Girl

For more background, Exodus was directed by Austrian Jewish refugee Otto Preminger based on the book by the pro Israel novelist Leon Uris and scripted by noted Communist Dalton Trumbo.


21 posted on 12/19/2005 1:35:46 PM PST by Borges
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To: Cinnamon Girl

"Why is it that Hollywood's (and English theater's) apparent agenda is decidedly anti-Israel?"

Perhaps because the Biblical connection is too much for the atheists in Hollyweird to stomach.

Perhaps they are too enamoured of third world misfits.

Perhaps its because they hate America so much and Israel is America's only reliable ally in the Middle East.

Perhaps its because they hate western civlization so much that any bunch of insane fantics who are willing to blow themselves up to put women in burkas, dogs out of commission, and Orthodox Judaism and Christianity on the rocks appeals to them.

The ironic part is if the Islamolunatics take over, Hollyweird will be burned to the ground and most of these idiot producers will be decapitated. But ehn, even an evil outcome has positive benefits.


22 posted on 12/19/2005 1:39:36 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Borges

And the theme music to "Exodus" was very good.


23 posted on 12/19/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: ZULU; Alouette

That sounds about right. Look for Alan Rickman and Co. to make the film version of their West End production of "My Name is Rachel Corrie."


24 posted on 12/19/2005 1:42:34 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I wonder what Arafart thought when he read about the time he was left waiting in the visitor's chambers while Lewinski completed her consultative session with the Xlintoon?


25 posted on 12/19/2005 1:44:35 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Blzbba
Speaking of Hollywood, those equating Tookie Williams' execution with 'cold blooded murder' are on par with this Spielberg equation.

Medved is also asking why, besides the wife of the main character, Israeli actors weren't cast, not to mention Jewish actors. I'm thinking now that maybe my man Jason Isaacs would have said 'no' if he'd been asked.

26 posted on 12/19/2005 1:48:00 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Young Werther

An Olympic athlete from the munich olympics is on now.


27 posted on 12/19/2005 1:56:52 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: KC_Conspirator

"Munich" doesn't even show what happened to the Israeli athletes, and two people have called in saying they are young and don't know the story and were wondering if the film would be educational. Will this be another case of history being rewritten and later generations not knowing the truth, e.g. the people called "Palestinians"?


28 posted on 12/19/2005 1:59:54 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Why anyone would look to a movie for historical edification is beyond me. It could very well be a great film but fiction is fiction...even if its 'inspired' by true events. Read a non fiction account or watch a documentary. It makes no more sense to expect completely historical veracity from a drama then it does to expect a documentary to 'spice' things up by adding falsehoods that make the story more exciting.
29 posted on 12/19/2005 2:04:09 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
Do you know how many people think Salieri killed Mozart because of "Amedeus" or how many people believe there was a second shooter because of "JFK?"

Medved should have suggested people watch "One Day in September", which is how I learned about the Munich massacre story.

30 posted on 12/19/2005 2:07:55 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Paul8148
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31 posted on 12/19/2005 2:08:54 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Funn you mention that since this is the other thread I'm posting in right now...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543501/posts

what's funny is that Amadeus doesn't claim Salieri killed Mozart. I'm not saying people don't get their historical knowledge from movies. I'm saying they shouldn't.
32 posted on 12/19/2005 2:12:16 PM PST by Borges
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To: Cinnamon Girl; Tolik; yonif

If leftist Americans can be (at least to one engaged in rational thought) anti-American, why is it hard to imagine that leftist Jews would be anti-Israel?


33 posted on 12/19/2005 2:17:30 PM PST by Huber ("The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Well, as the son of a holocaust , I have some questions about Spielberg's Hollywood bent, that began with Schindler's List. Although I saw the film and thought it was brilliantly done, incredibly moving and poignant, I wondered then, as I do now: why does one of the world's most successfull director/producers choose to take such an oblique approach to these subjects? In Schindler, Spielberg tells the story of the Holocaust by telling us the story of the "good German". In other words, by telling the story from the point of view of the exceptional case, rather than the rule.

In Munich, which I have not seen and do not plan to see, it gets even more puzzling: why tell a story of ism in the Age of from a morally obtuse and equivocal viewpoint?

In the Schindler case, an equally uplifting tale could be told about the heroism and humanity of the concentration camp inmates: there are countless stories of the superhuman self-sacrifice made to help each other, the powerful human spirit of survival shown in the clever and desperate schemes to obtain a bit of food, escapes plots, attempts and failures and any number of angles so that the film wouldn't have to be an unmitigated pall of and despair.

Munich sounds like a real stinker in terms of moral equivalence. Having an opportunity to make a clear moral statement in a time when that would truly useful, Spielberg crapped out, Hollywood style. This was a picture for a Kerry administration, appreciative of the "moral complexities" between ers and the cops who tracked 'em down and evened the score.


34 posted on 12/19/2005 2:27:32 PM PST by JewishRighter
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why does one of the world's most successfull director/producers choose to take such an oblique approach to these subjects?

I forgot to mention: Why does such a man, who is also a Jew (and maybe the son of holocaust victims) do this?


35 posted on 12/19/2005 2:29:11 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter

Schindler's List was adapted from an acclaimed book so Spielberg was bound to follow its contours. There's something to be said for not focusing on a single Jewish family and risk sentimentality (this is the only family we should care about) and looking at it more abstractly from the outside.


36 posted on 12/19/2005 2:33:22 PM PST by Borges
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I can't agree with your comments about Rabbi Hier.

From what little I know about him Hier is a star-struck ultra-liberal Modern Orthodox rabbi with consistent left-eye myopia. If he has ever criticized any leftwing groups or even spoken up on behalf of Israel during the current crisis I have never heard about it.

37 posted on 12/19/2005 2:33:45 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Liberal Jews and conservative chr*stians should switch religions.)
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To: JewishRighter; Borges
STEVEN SPIELBERG has recruited one of Israeli Prime Minister ARIEL SHARON's advisers to help him promote his movie about the 1972 Munich Olympics terrorist attack. Spielberg's film follows an Israeli hit squad's hunt for Palestinian terrorists who held Jewish athletes hostage. Eleven of the athletes were killed when a German rescue attempt went wrong. Although unreleased, the movie has attracted criticism and been accused of historical inaccuracy. So Spielberg hopes EYAL ARAD - who helped plan the recent Israeli withdrawal from Gaza - will help soften its release in Israel. Arad, who has arranged a screening in Tel Aviv for widows of the murdered Israeli athletes, "We are talking about a film that has generated a lot of interest. "Naturally that sort of interest can entail some negative reactions as well as positive reactions."
38 posted on 12/19/2005 2:34:13 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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39 posted on 12/19/2005 2:34:56 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Well, that's not correct. Rabbi Hier is Orthodox, he is not an ultra-liberal nor is his organization, and in fact the heads of the organization are big fans of President Bush and supported Arnold in his election, not Bustamove or Davis.


40 posted on 12/19/2005 2:37:19 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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