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1 posted on 12/19/2005 8:06:44 AM PST by hags
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To: hags

From the NY Slimes: "Doh!"


2 posted on 12/19/2005 8:07:21 AM PST by hags
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"During the 1990's under President Clinton, the National Security Agency monitored millions of private phone calls placed by U.S. citizens and citizens of other countries under a super secret program code-named Echelon"

The lefties think America has forgotten but the memory hole is closed!

3 posted on 12/19/2005 8:08:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: hags

Too bad it didn't stop 9/11.


4 posted on 12/19/2005 8:09:01 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: hags

more on Echelon




http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Echelon%2Bnsa


5 posted on 12/19/2005 8:10:37 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: hags

Yeah, but I didn't hear about this on TV so it can't be true.

 

 

6 posted on 12/19/2005 8:10:43 AM PST by Fintan (See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
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To: hags; angkor


50 USC 1802 Permits Warrantless Surveillance

Posted by angkor
On 12/19/2005 4:25:09 AM PST · 58 replies · 1,249+ views

United States Code ^ | 12/19/2005 | Self
Throughout the "illegal wiretaps" debacle of the last several days we have not heard a single citation of the actual law that is alleged to have been violated. And that's from both the accusers (Rats, the NYT, WashPost, etc.) as well as Republicans, up to and including the White House staff (e.g., Condi Rice on talking head circuit, Sunday morning, where she did not cite the law in defense of the practice). Well, the fact of the matter is that the alleged "illegal surveillance" is not illegal at all. In fact it is specifically permitted under 50 USC 1802, and...


7 posted on 12/19/2005 8:11:12 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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So THERE! Take that lefties.

Of course, in their way of thinking,it was perfectly
acceptable under Clinton but not now.


9 posted on 12/19/2005 8:11:43 AM PST by ninergold3 (aka GiantsPrincess)
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To: hags

there was quite a discussion on this subject last night http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543118/posts


10 posted on 12/19/2005 8:13:50 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: hags
But in fact, the NSA had been monitoring private domestic telephone conversations on a much larger scale throughout the 1990s - all of it done without a court order, let alone a catalyst like the 9/11 attacks.

The Patriot Act, along with congress empowered president Bush to wiretap. What legal avenue did Clinton have? Is it time to arrest him?

12 posted on 12/19/2005 8:15:06 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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Still, the Times repeatedly insisted on Friday that NSA surveillance under Bush had been unprecedented, at one point citing anonymously an alleged former national security official who claimed: "This is really a sea change. It's almost a mainstay of this country that the NSA only does foreign searches."
14 posted on 12/19/2005 8:15:31 AM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: hags
Clinton is one tricky, sneaky character!


16 posted on 12/19/2005 8:20:03 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: hags

Echelon has been rumored in existence since Clinton. Some people think farther back, But I don't know.


17 posted on 12/19/2005 8:20:37 AM PST by desherwood7
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....not to mention the number of conservatives and Republicans the Clintons had the IRS audit...some of them more than two times...


18 posted on 12/19/2005 8:23:25 AM PST by auto power
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DUPLICATE THREAD - this was posted over the weekend.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543110/posts

19 posted on 12/19/2005 8:23:40 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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I would not be surprised if all modern Presidents have done this. That is what needs to be learned. I don't think this is just a Clinton and Dubya recent deal.


21 posted on 12/19/2005 8:29:12 AM PST by plain talk
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They can monitor me all they want.

If they want to listen to my mom tell me about her dog, or my girlfriend talk about her hair... have it at!


22 posted on 12/19/2005 8:33:44 AM PST by WatchYourself
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BTTT


23 posted on 12/19/2005 8:37:16 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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See, this is what happens when you get so focused on one thing. We could easily have impeached Clinton and removed him for office for this, but instead, we were wasting our time on Lewinsky. We just weren't agressive enough.


24 posted on 12/19/2005 8:37:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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For decades there was a complex of huge radio receiver dishes in a valley in West Virginia. These were hooked up to super computers in Fort Belvoir or someplace.(Perhaps a former military intelligence Freeper has a better recollection). Part of the NSA mission was to monitor electronic traffic all over the world. People, including the press, just took this for granted as being part of national security.
26 posted on 12/19/2005 8:39:22 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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Sure to be big news everywhere. We'll need more alternative media if we're ever to get anything besides Bush-bashing.


29 posted on 12/19/2005 8:47:59 AM PST by popdonnelly
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I suppose Klinton was eavesdropping on all the sorority houses across the country, trolling for potential interns...


30 posted on 12/19/2005 8:52:30 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Conservatives protect Americans from terrorists. Liberals protect terrorists from Americans.")
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Clinton only eavesdropped on the 900 numbers.


31 posted on 12/19/2005 9:05:44 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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Rush is discussing this now...


33 posted on 12/19/2005 9:46:27 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: hags

I took the time this afternoon to send along info to all the major networks regarding this 4 year old story. Gee, none of them mentioned it.


36 posted on 12/19/2005 4:21:30 PM PST by stocksthatgoup ("It's inexcusable to tell us to 'connect the dots' and not give us the tools to do so." G W Bush)
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the big difference is, as bush pointed out today, that there is monitoring and there is intercepting.

Monitoring is within the USA just listening in on lines; he did not authorize the NSA to do that; they intercepted international communication with groups with known ties to terrorists.


38 posted on 12/19/2005 6:44:12 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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