Tried it once. Just once. Only once. Once.
Posted on 12/17/2005 12:57:08 PM PST by jaredt112
North America isn't exactly coming apart. But it is constantly on the move, and the latest discovery of geologic creep has surprised scientists.
During the last Ice Age, large portions of North America were blanketed by giant glaciers. Although they’ve been gone for more than 10,000 years, the land they once rested upon is still recovering from the weight.
Parts of North America and other continents are slowly rising due to an effect called post-glacial rebound. That much geologists knew.
But it turns out this slow recovery is also causing a very small horizontal shift, said Eric Calais, a geophysicist at Purdue University in Indiana. The movement varies from one spot to another, but the overall effect amounts to a 1-millimeter shortening per year of the distance between Florida and the Hudson Bay in northeastern Canada. That's about an inch every 25 years.
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That's about an inch every 25 years.
Give a liberal and inch and they'll take a mile.
Not as fast as retired New Yorkers are moving to Miami.
So, let's see...if global warming is suppose to cause us Northerners to get colder, but we're moving south, then isn't it a wash?
In New York, they live in the same old house forever. In Florida, chances are good that the taxpayers will pay to replace your home with a new one when the next hurricane season rolls around.
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Oh thank God....I thought Northerners were moving down South.
Hate to break the news to ya, but we already did. It's how you got indoor plumbing and pizza.
P.S. I took my southern belle wife and moved her butt back up here to NY. She finally understands what a good bagel is!Nyaah! Nyaah!
Score another one for the Yankees!
(Just kidding!)
I got grits, don't need your stinkin bagels. :P
Altho you must be some kinda man to get a Southern girl so far from home.
She's some kinda woman because she got me to chase her to Charlotte. She's a treasure, fo' shore!
She keeps trying, but she can't get me to eat grits. I saw what a military "chef" can do to the things and they have repulsed me ever since!
That's what I thought this article would be about...
I would imagine that such a shrinkage is the result of global cooling.
Great. As if hordes of Yankees weren't enough, they're bringing their entire STATES with them.
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Coming soon. I've been slowly getting the impression that my neighbors in Cambridge MA don't share my political views...
psst...do yourself a favor. About the time NY comes leval with VA, stop mentioning grits. Just walk away, an eat your scrapple.
At that rate (1 mm/year)in fourteen zillion years North Florida will have Hudson Bay Front property. Buy now before the values go up.
Well I told MY 'Suthun Bail' she'd never get me any further North than Atlanta! Been North. Been South. South's better!
Now if I could only figure out how to fax a hogie roll... ;o)
Ah yes. Nothing like a good portion of cartilege for breakfast! Especially with gravy.
Stop rebuilding New Orleans-- Cleveland is on its way down.
What's with this North , South B.S. I'm from Californis and we eat both grits and bagels with our huevos rancheros.
Can't argue with you there. We moved back because when I started my own business, no one in Charalotte knew what I was talking about and I couldn't get work. So much for all that "North Carolina is the new Silicon Valley" bull.
Been back in NY for seven months and started making a decent living again almost immediately.
But I do miss the pond out back and the willows out in front of the house. Don't miss the carefully choreographed ballet of six old men sitting in front of the gas station spitting tobacco juice, though.
They call these folks "Halfbacks" in the mountains of NC.
They moved from up north to Florida, miss not having a change of seasons so they move halfway back and settle in Western NC.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I'll try to answer this for you:
1. Northerners, without exception, assume that all southerners are ignorant, backwards, nose-picking inbreds. This is simply NOT true. I have met many who gave up nose picking all on their own.
2 Southerners assume that all Northerners are know-it-all busybodies who came to tell them what to do, when to do it and how to do it, and to hell with their traditions and customs. This is simply NOT true. I have met many northerners who can't even spell 'tradition' or 'custom' without the help of a government program.
Having been born and raised in NY and having lived in the south for a good while, I believe I have identified the crux of the whole matter:
As Northerners, we should stop making assumptions. I know I stopped when when I found that southerners were no different than I, in of all places, a run-down bar in Charlotte with a two-handgun minimum. Being the only Yankee in the room caused me to shut up long enough to actually listen. Perhaps if we northers stopped thinking we're oh-so-worldly and sophisticated, we'd be able to appreciate Southerners, and the simple things in life, more.
As for Southerners, perhaps if they stopped believing that every Yankee who makes the trek came with the express purpose of telling them all how to run your lives, in minute detail, and engaged the brainbox for a few seconds before speaking, they'd figure out that this is not the case. We have better things to do.
If the two sides actually made an effort to spend more time in each other's company, without assumptions, perhaps they'd get on better. There is still an awful lot of separation. I know I found it difficult to find myself male friends in Charlotte, despite my best efforts.
However, the real cause of most of the friction is the fact that the southern landscape, and southern society, is being changed dramatically. Housing developments (for Yankee refugees) erase open fields, woods and fishing holes. Strip malls appear these days like pimples on the landscape. New Englanders come on down and try to turn Raleigh or into something akin to Boston, complete with Kennedy-esque politicians (i.e. John Edwards) and liberal lifestyles. Yankee men are moving in an sweeping Southern Ladies off their feet in record numbers.
I can see why southerners, many of them anyway, feel threatened. Their home is rapidly becoming unrecognizable as "their home".
We're good for the Southern economy. We sold many acres of prime forest land in upstate NY and moved to build a house on Lake James in Western NC in the Blue Ridge Mountains. After spending a million dollars, I'd say that there are some very happy local contractors. Besides, it doesn't go to below zero temperatures in NC (that's why we moved after retirement).
Happens to me every time I go duck hunting on the NY / Canadian border in the winter time. Brrrrr!
Breakfast: Triple egg cheese omelet with a quarter pound of bacon and hash browns.
Dinner: Artichokes in drawn butter and garlic, followed by prime rib, mashed potatoes, gravy, spinach, and hot blueberry-apple pie with a dollop of Breyer's vanilla ice cream on top.
When we go to Maine... you know those funny looking fish with claws (LOL) They talk funny too.
True. But all the changes going on in the South aren't the result of Northerners moving in. You'd see a lot of residential and commercial development even if they stayed home.
As you wish. LOL.
You be won funny mon! Series, both our children live (unfortunately) in the Sanfransicko Gay Area. When we visit, half the markets sell stuff that we can't even identify. They look like Pet-Smart stores.
Series, we're going to be there for a week over Christmas. I'll have to take my blindfold if we have to ride the BART(?) so we don't have to see guys licking each other's earings.
LOL. I can't imagine what would make you think that. I assume all my neighbors in Somerville feel the same way I do about our elected officials. It must be the bumper stickers that tipped you off.
I can see why southerners, many of them anyway, feel threatened. Their home is rapidly becoming unrecognizable as "their home".
In a very real sense, you have a point. In general, Southern men are MUCH less 'feminized' than Yankee men. In many cases, Southern girls go for Northern guys for the same reason they make friends with gay guys...they "speak the lingo" of feminism, and are much less averse to metrosexuality.
If Southern woman is a feminist and wants a best girlfriend with a penis, she marries a Yankee. If she wants a husband that doesn't apologize for being male, she marries someone from home.
I agree. It's the movement of information, not the movement of Yankees.
Tried it once. Just once. Only once. Once.
Can't disagree with you, but it would not have occurred on the scale that it is presently, I believe.
The real problem (if that's the right word)is a clash of cultures and priorities and an unwillingness, often, to compromise or make an effort to see the other side's point of view.
I enjoyed my time in Charlotte, and we return as often as we can. I think, however, I would have enjoyed it more if I had the sense that I was welcome, or at least, tolerated. I got on well with southern ladies, but not so well with the men. It made it difficult, for example, to make business contacts. However, there were many who came before me who made that kind of consideration more difficult, and I can understand the resentment felt by many natives.
On the other hand, the natives should realize that not every Yankee waltzing into town is a liberal busybody with an agenda, political or otherwise, and a rotten attitude.
awwww, scrapple is great! we even had it imported
when we lived in michigan...no one there had a clue
what it was :(
...wouldn't be anywhere but here in the south :)
OMG...that's LOL hysterical. (Not to mention true...)
Beef Scrapple?
That's like non-alcoholic beer or decaffinated coffee...yuck!
Gimme da piggie!
Some things are just too hard for yankees to grasp.
That was my reaction - scrapple is pork and corn meal. Beef? WTFO?
What kind of things did you do with them when you weren't trying to transact business?
Hardy, har har.
Actually, perhaps the reason Southern women go for Yankee men is because we're not beer-guzzling, trailer-dwelling, shotgun-toting, tobacco-chewing, cousin-violating, wife-beaters with oversized egos trying to inhabit an undersized brain pans. For many of you, chewing gum and walking upright simultaneously is as close to employment as you can get.
Perhaps the real reason southern men hate Yankee men is because, more often than not, we can get the job you can't, at the salary you can't, and then get our pick of the wimmenfolk afterwards.
I actually like Sotherners, and then I run across one like you who rimds me just how easy it is to answer Jerry Springer's eternal question: "Where do they GET these people?"
I loved North Carolina and I would have stayed there if it wasn't for the fact that work was hard to come by in my field. At the end of the day, however, I got myself the best woman on the planet and I can't call it a complete loss, can I?
I have worked in Chattanooga, Nashville, Denton, TX, Atlanta, and probably a hundred other places in the South. I always got along with them because I never treated anyone as my inferior. I talked to them as an equal and was always accepted as the same. I got invited to stay at homes and to dinners. I always turned down those invitations since my company was paying and didn't want to impose.
I am from Chicago originally and when I moved to CT I was treated probably much like the way you felt you were treated in the South. I have tried to make friends here but the only lasting friendships I ever developed were with people who aren't originally from here. The people here are so closed-minded when it comes to relationships it's sad.
You should be so lucky.
A) I happen to be a Yankee.
B) I think we have our answer as to why your attempt at business in the South failed.
Other than a few Panther's games or getting involved in the church stuff (I'm Catholic, there's like two Catholic churches in Charlotte, wife is a Baptist, so we went to her church), not much.
It was suggested that I join the country club, but I hate golf.
What I wound up doing was getting ahold of my contacts at IBM and finding out where the major data centers were, making direct contacts with managers, and making my sales pitch. More often than not, I either got blank stares or exploding heads. There's not many people who do what I do,and fewer who actually understand it.
My other option was to take a teaching position at UNC, but the pay was rather lousy, and I wanted to pretty much be free to do what I wanted to.
I never treated anyone as an inferior, I don't believe. I think it was just more a matter of walking into a situation that I wasn't quite prepared for. There was some culture shock.
It did get funny at times. Especially when people found out I'm Sicilian and wanted to know if knew Tony Soprano or John Gotti, or when they wanted to see my switchblade. LOL.
No,it failed because supposedly college educated people could not grasp the concept of automated computer controls and those who could, realized it might mean their job might also be automated out of existance.
I came back to NY and went back to automated trading systems and started raking the bucks in again.
Actually, perhaps the reason Southern women go for Yankee men is because we're not beer-guzzling, trailer-dwelling, shotgun-toting, tobacco-chewing, cousin-violating, wife-beaters with oversized egos trying to inhabit an undersized brain pans. For many of you, chewing gum and walking upright simultaneously is as close to employment as you can get.
beer-guzzling - guilty.
Trailer-dwelling - nope. Own three houses, one of which is in NY.
shotgun-toting - nope. funny thing, my dad had no respect for sloppy jerks who need a shotgun. Learned to use a bolt-action, instead.
tobacco-chewing - nope. I smoke. It is the south. deal with it.
Cousin-violating - well, yeah. Sorry.
Wife-beating - nope. Never. Not once.
Employment - I seem to get by.
Perhaps the real reason southern men hate Yankee men is because, more often than not, we can get the job you can't, at the salary you can't, and then get our pick of the wimmenfolk afterwards. I actually like Sotherners, and then I run across one like you who rimds me just how easy it is to answer Jerry Springer's eternal question: "Where do they GET these people?" I loved North Carolina and I would have stayed there if it wasn't for the fact that work was hard to come by in my field. At the end of the day, however, I got myself the best woman on the planet and I can't call it a complete loss, can I?
Seems I have a job in my field, in the south. But I guess you got the job I couldn't, huh?
You keep telling yourself that, and try not to think of how easily I got you to shoot your mouth off. FRiend, I promise you, you have been played.
Enjoy NY ;)
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