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Romney: He looks like a candidate
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | December 16, 2005 | Glen Johnson, AP

Posted on 12/16/2005 9:39:00 AM PST by Past Your Eyes

Boston — The words emanating from Gov. Mitt Romney’s mouth on Wednesday conveyed he was not running for re-election next year. Yet the theatrics at his State House news conference portrayed him as a presidential contender.

From the dual banks of lights erected at stage right and stage left, to the new $2,500 podium shaped like the one President Bush often uses in the Rose Garden, Romney’s staff left no detail to chance as he ended one phase of his politicalcareer — and potentially opened another

(Excerpt) Read more at theunionleader.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: anticonstitution; babykiller; campaign; candidate; christianbigotry; mitt; never; presidential; rinorinorino; romney; romney2008; sucks; swaggeringprinceling
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Well, the Red Sox did win the World Series in 2004 so I suppose anything's possible. But I wouldn't bet on it.
1 posted on 12/16/2005 9:39:02 AM PST by Past Your Eyes
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To: Past Your Eyes


Pretty Boy.

Mormon problem:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=9157




2 posted on 12/16/2005 9:43:37 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Past Your Eyes
His Father George was an effective Governor in Michigan which was blue as blue can be at the time.

His 1967 "Brianwash" comment was ill-advised...
3 posted on 12/16/2005 9:43:38 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (I grew up in a slum, when I got to college it had become a "ghetto".)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Mitt Romney. A RINO's RINO.


4 posted on 12/16/2005 9:46:24 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yes, the "Mormon problem". Another example of Christian tolerance??


5 posted on 12/16/2005 9:46:33 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Even though this site is touted as a political discussion forum, it seems that whenever Romney's religion comes up, the thread disappears.

His religion is going to be significant in his prospective run whether anyone likes it or not.
6 posted on 12/16/2005 9:47:23 AM PST by colorcountry (That's what happens when you fall for a pistol. (No, no, I don't mean no gun.))
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To: Past Your Eyes

Massachusetts lost jobs and population during his reign.

At least he stodd up against Gay marriage.

Oh, yeah, he caved on that too.


7 posted on 12/16/2005 9:49:08 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Was Christ tolerant of the money changers in the temple? Nope...
- plewis1250


8 posted on 12/16/2005 9:49:38 AM PST by plewis1250
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To: colorcountry

When he ran for governor of Mass, his religion was mentioned,but just basically left alone. It really didn't seem to be a talking point.

Dan


9 posted on 12/16/2005 9:49:47 AM PST by xmission (What has four legs and an arm?... A happy pitbull)
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To: Lunatic Fringe


There is a problem when addendums are added to the Bible and the addendum is touted as the last and final word.

Matt 5:18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."


10 posted on 12/16/2005 9:49:49 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

I don't have as much of a problem with that as I do with his wishywashy mealymouthedness on abortion. If he can get elected in Massive2sh!tts, that should tell you something.
But he's not going to get the nomination anyway so I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.


11 posted on 12/16/2005 9:50:15 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I think that if he were a solid conservative who was Mormon, he would have more support. The problem is that he appears wishy-washy on abortion and he is from Mass. His religion doesn't hurt, but it probably doesn't help either- Mormons are pretty concentrated in states that are already solidly red (except CA), but do not really play into the primaries.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 9:51:55 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: theDentist
Mitt Romney. A RINO's RINO.

I think we're supposed to believe he didn't really mean all that stuff the social conservatives hate. He just said it or did it because Ted Kennedy would have beat him up if he had told people what he really thought.

13 posted on 12/16/2005 9:52:04 AM PST by madprof98
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To: Para-Ord.45

His Mormonism will not be a problem.

He is on the "right" side of every social issue so unless a better candidate emerges he will be fully embraced by the "christian" right. The Falwells, Dobsons, and D. James Kennedy's of the world will fully support him and the abberant teachings of the latter day saints will be further minimized until Mormon becomes just another "christian" denomination.

These so called "christian" leaders have already shown their willingness to compromise on doctrine when it seems to benefit their political ambitions. This will be just another step along the road to the one world, "can't we all just get along" religion


14 posted on 12/16/2005 9:52:27 AM PST by The Lumster
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To: Para-Ord.45

Surely you know that what you're talking about is just a "companion" to the Bible and not contradictory in any way?
/s


15 posted on 12/16/2005 9:52:27 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes


mormons are wishy-washy:

There is seldom any excuse for abortion. "The only exceptions are when--



Pregnancy has resulted from incest or rape;

The life or health of the woman is in jeopardy in the opinion of competent medical authority; or

The fetus is known, by competent medical authority, to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-49,00.html


16 posted on 12/16/2005 9:53:22 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
At least he stood up against Gay marriage. Oh, yeah, he caved on that too.

AFAIK the only rock solid principle he ever stood by was that he would not have Rappaport as his Lt. Gov.

17 posted on 12/16/2005 9:54:07 AM PST by maryz
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To: xmission

Massachusetts isn't known for making decisions based upon ones moral values.

But in the South, his religion will be a factor. In polls taken since Romney's father's Presidential run, the percentage of voters who will NOT vote for a Mormon have remained consistent at 17%.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 9:54:56 AM PST by colorcountry (That's what happens when you fall for a pistol. (No, no, I don't mean no gun.))
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To: Para-Ord.45
Mormon problem:

It's really too bad that there are those who would oppose a good, conservative candidate because of their inexplicable fear of Mormons. What is it, exactly, that the "No Votes for Mormons" gang is afraid of? Do they think a Mormon president would order the slaughter of their firstborn or something?

Really, I want to know. What supposedly horrible atrocities would be wrought by a Mormon president? Nobody seems to have such an automatic aversion to other major religions, despite basic doctrinal differences between most of them, so this baffles me.

Mormon politicians have, for the most part, been honest, solid conservatives. Why wouldn't you want a Mormon president?

19 posted on 12/16/2005 9:54:56 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Yeah right.

Joseph Smith said, "I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book."

http://scriptures.lds.org/bm/intrdctn


20 posted on 12/16/2005 9:55:37 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: maryz

He is rock solid in his opposition to the Second Amendment.


21 posted on 12/16/2005 9:55:52 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: Para-Ord.45
"mormons are wishy-washy"

Baloney
22 posted on 12/16/2005 9:56:18 AM PST by hawaiian
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To: TChris
Mormon's have for the most part, been honest, solid conservatives, but Romney has not.
23 posted on 12/16/2005 9:57:26 AM PST by colorcountry (That's what happens when you fall for a pistol. (No, no, I don't mean no gun.))
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To: Past Your Eyes

His candidacy will fly like a lead balloon in the Red states, especially the South.


24 posted on 12/16/2005 9:57:28 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 2500 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: TChris

... It's really too bad that there are those who would oppose a good, conservative candidate because of their inexplicable fear of Mormons...

If only there was a good, conservative candidate who was a mormon, I'd vote for him.

Romney is no friend of the Constitution.


25 posted on 12/16/2005 9:58:19 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: TChris


Hey,don`t get me wrong.I said it was a problem,I have a bone to pick with mormons not a guys politically ideology.I love the idea of having multiple wives. It`s inevitable anyway if 2 guys can get married and adopt little boys ain`t it?

PS: See post 20


26 posted on 12/16/2005 9:58:34 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: hawaiian

I didn't post this article to start a religious war. I must be kinda naive, eh?
I just don't think Mitt Romney has the qualities and the views I want in a president, no matter if he's a Mormon or a Druid.


27 posted on 12/16/2005 9:58:56 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Beauty is only skin-deep...


28 posted on 12/16/2005 9:59:04 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: who knows what evil?
"New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!"

Quite a comedown from the days of Jonathan Edwards, eh? ":^(

29 posted on 12/16/2005 10:01:59 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: hawaiian

they`re wishy washy on abortion, or can`t you read:

Pregnancy has resulted from incest or rape;

The life or health of the woman is in jeopardy in the opinion of competent medical authority; or

The fetus is known, by competent medical authority, to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-49,00.html


30 posted on 12/16/2005 10:02:09 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: TChris
Really, I want to know. What supposedly horrible atrocities would be wrought by a Mormon president?

Top Five things different about a mormon presiden


1. Says that Karl Rove was once the Angel Michael
2. Renames Congress as the "Washington Tabernackle Qaugmire"
3. Bigamy, not just for mormons anymore
4. Donny and Marie, New ambasadors to Hollyweird
5. Makes Tom Cruse shut the heck up


Dan 5.
31 posted on 12/16/2005 10:02:23 AM PST by xmission (What has four legs and an arm?... A happy pitbull)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Yes, the "Mormon problem".

He's Mormon? So? Romney doesn't have a prayer because he is pro-choice (don't care what he is "personally", his policies are what count), he opposes the 2nd Amendment, and worst of all, he's from Masschusetts. The elite blue-bloods of New England need to get over themselves...the people around the rest of the country are NOT going to put you in the White House...ever.

32 posted on 12/16/2005 10:02:35 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
mormons are wishy-washy

It's not that wishy-washy when you think about it. It's actually very similar to the concept of taking a life in self-defence. The important thing to remember is that the Church strongly opposes abortion except in very rare circumstances. Even in those cases, it's not automaticall "A-OK" with the Church.

Just as the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" has the exception of self-defence, the Church has recognized the rare exception of saving the life of the mother or ending the unnecessary and pointless suffering of a fatally malformed baby. Again, even those exceptions are permitted only with the utmost in prayerful and sober reflection.

33 posted on 12/16/2005 10:02:53 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Two words for Mitt: No chance.


34 posted on 12/16/2005 10:03:46 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: RexBeach
Really, I want to know. What supposedly horrible atrocities would be wrought by a Mormon president?

That's what we were saying about Kerry's chances of winng the primary before Deans fatefull yell.
Dan
35 posted on 12/16/2005 10:06:08 AM PST by xmission (What has four legs and an arm?... A happy pitbull)
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To: TChris

... Just as the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" has the exception of self-defence,....

Not to that gungrabbing Rino it doesn't.


36 posted on 12/16/2005 10:06:26 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: colorcountry
Mormon's have for the most part, been honest, solid conservatives, but Romney has not.

I agree that he has taken public stances on some subjects that are disagreeable to many conservatives. Those should, and will, be debated vigorously.

What I don't understand, though, is the knee-jerk, "I would never vote for a Mormon" thing. Even if you strongly disagree with LDS doctrine, why does that matter? You're not voting for the guy to be your Pastor!

37 posted on 12/16/2005 10:07:52 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Quite a comedown from the days of Jonathan Edwards, eh? ":^(

No kidding...if there is ANYONE like him living in New England nowadays; he sure isn't making much noise. :-(

38 posted on 12/16/2005 10:07:53 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

RINO? Where's the proof?????? If you're going to throw that out there, back it up.


39 posted on 12/16/2005 10:08:26 AM PST by teddyballgame (red man in blue state)
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To: xmission

"Top Five things different about a mormon presiden

1. Says that Karl Rove was once the Angel Michael
2. Renames Congress as the "Washington Tabernackle Qaugmire"
3. Bigamy, not just for mormons anymore
4. Donny and Marie, New ambasadors to Hollyweird
5. Makes Tom Cruse shut the heck up"

humorous,because it`s true.


40 posted on 12/16/2005 10:10:52 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: xmission

Ted Kennedy made it an issue in Romney's senate run.


41 posted on 12/16/2005 10:12:27 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: teddyballgame

Romney stopped a court ordered retro-active increase in the estate tax. Dukakis wouldn't have.


42 posted on 12/16/2005 10:13:54 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: teddyballgame

Where the heck have you been?

He ordered religious hospitals to dispense "morning after" pills despite their beliefs. He is no better than weak on abortion. His economic policies have sent people and jobs fleeing from his state. He supports the homoagenda and has been feeble in response to the blackrobed tyrants who run his state.

He struts around like an emperor with his heavily armed Praetorian Guard while he abolished the second amendment in Ma. At least for the commoners.


43 posted on 12/16/2005 10:14:04 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: massgopguy

Being better than Dukakis is no better than being better than Ted Kennedy.


44 posted on 12/16/2005 10:15:08 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: massgopguy

"Romney stopped a court ordered retro-active increase in the estate tax. Dukakis wouldn't have."

Thats pretty weak. Romney has beed one of a handful of politician's who has been very outspoken about same-sex marriage. He has been a solid fiscal and social conservative.


45 posted on 12/16/2005 10:16:39 AM PST by teddyballgame (red man in blue state)
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To: TChris

There are people that won't vote for women, Jews, Catholics, Italian-Americans, African-Americans, etc. Mormonism might be a very devisive issue in the primaries.

A Gallup Poll in February 1999 that questioned religious bias found 17 percent of respondents said they would not vote for a Mormon, while 6 percent opposed a Jew and 4 percent said they would be against a Catholic or a Baptist candidate.


46 posted on 12/16/2005 10:17:25 AM PST by colorcountry (That's what happens when you fall for a pistol. (No, no, I don't mean no gun.))
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To: teddyballgame

"He ordered religious hospitals to dispense "morning after" pills despite their beliefs..."

Not quite sure where you get your information, but he has done nothing of the kind. I'm not the biggest Romney supporter, but he is NOT a RINO.


47 posted on 12/16/2005 10:19:55 AM PST by teddyballgame (red man in blue state)
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To: colorcountry
This, from the USA Today on November 16, proves that this "Pretty Boy" also speaks French. Why..... he's not only equal to Kerry in language spoken, he'll get the soccer moms votes and even those with a lifestyle that he has been promoting in Mass.

RINO for sure.

In targeting France, the governor, who spent more than two years there as a Mormon missionary and speaks French, flogged a favorite target of conservatives. The French refusal to support military action in Iraq led to such responses as an effort to ensure Capitol Hill cafeterias retooled their menus to advertise "freedom fries" instead of french fries.

48 posted on 12/16/2005 10:21:02 AM PST by Utah Binger (Proud To Have Recovered!)
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To: The Lumster

Well said.


49 posted on 12/16/2005 10:22:08 AM PST by freeplancer
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To: teddyballgame

Thanks for making my point.


50 posted on 12/16/2005 10:23:11 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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