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First woman conscientious objector to war in Iraq to take public stand (Barf Alert)
Not on our name (Moonbat website)

Posted on 12/13/2005 4:48:03 PM PST by Thunder90

Katherine Jashinski Statement read near Fort Benning gate November 17, 2005

My name is Katherine Jashinski. I am a SPC in the Texas Army National Guard. I was born in Milwaukee, WI and I am 22 years old. When I graduated high school I moved to Austin, TX to attend college. At age 19 I enlisted in the Guard as a cook because I wanted to experience military life. When I enlisted I believed that killing was immoral, but also that war was an inevitable part of life and therefore, an exception to the rule.

After enlisting I began the slow transformation into adulthood. Like many teenagers who leave their home for the first time, I went through a period of growth and soul searching. I encountered many new people and ideas that broadly expanded my narrow experiences. After reading essays by Bertrand Russel and traveling to the South Pacific and talking to people from all over the world, my beliefs about humanity and its relation to war changed. I began to see a bigger picture of the world and I started to reevaluate everything that I had been taught about war as a child. I developed the belief that taking human life was wrong and war was no exception. I was then able to clarify who I am and what it is that I stand for.

The thing that I revere most in this world is life, and I will never take another person's life.

Just as others have faith in God, I have faith in humanity

I have a deeply held belief that people must solve all conflicts through peaceful diplomacy and without the use of violence. Violence only begets more violence.

Because I believe so strongly in non-violence, I cannot perform any role in the military. Any person doing any job in the Army, contributes in some way to the planning, preparation or implementation of war.

For eighteen months, while my CO status was pending, I have honored my commitment to the Army and done everything that they asked of me. However, I was ordered to Ft. Benning last Sunday to complete weapons training in preparation to deploy for war.

Now I have come to the point where I am forced to choose between my legal obligation to the Army and my deepest moral values. I want to make it clear that I will not compromise my beliefs for any reason. I have a moral obligation not only to myself but to the world as a whole, and this is more important than any contract.

I have come to my beliefs through personal, intense, reflection and study. They are everything that I am and all that I stand for. After much thought and contemplation about the effect my decision will have on my future, my family, the possibility of prison, and the inevitable scorn and ridicule that I will face, I am completely resolute.

I will exercise my every legal right not pick up a weapon, and to participate in war effort. I am determined to be discharged as a CO, and while undergoing the appeals process; I will continue to follow orders that do not conflict with my conscience until my status has been resolved. I am prepared to accept the consequences of adhering to my beliefs.

What characterizes a conscientious objector is their willingness to face adversity and uphold their values at any cost. We do this not because it is easy or popular, but because we are unable to do otherwise. thank you.


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
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Yep, another John Kerry in the making!

If she hates the military so much, and she supports commies, then why did she enlist?

1 posted on 12/13/2005 4:48:07 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Hate America filth in the military PING!


2 posted on 12/13/2005 4:48:52 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Like many teenagers who leave their home for the first time, I went through a period of growth and soul searching.

She obviously didn't find anything.

3 posted on 12/13/2005 4:50:40 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Ping!


4 posted on 12/13/2005 4:51:47 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Has anyone told her that Crest makes teeth whiteners now...if she's gonna be in the public eye, try to look presentable! Oh, that's impossible for dirty, vile America haters.


5 posted on 12/13/2005 4:52:04 PM PST by ladiesview61
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To: Thunder90

I don't belive you can even get CO status based on a "belief in humanity" only for religious reasons. So now you have secular humanists seeking Concientious objection?


6 posted on 12/13/2005 4:52:54 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Thunder90

Get her out. Love America or leave it. I don't buy this about her saying she was growing up. I don't want this woman anywhere neat our people that are in country and in danger. They have more to do than look after her.


7 posted on 12/13/2005 4:53:29 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Perhaps she is one of those leftists who was propped up to join the Military, so she could be used as an example by the other leftists.


8 posted on 12/13/2005 4:53:58 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
I am forced to choose between my legal obligation to the Army and my deepest moral values

Deepest moral values which took her a very short time to develop. She joined in the middle of a war and now she is upset because she might have to kill somebody. Anybody want to guess if her unit is due to rotate to Iraq?

If they let her out I hope the Guard gets their money back. I'm sure the real reason she joined was for tuition assistance for college.

9 posted on 12/13/2005 4:54:57 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Thunder90

Someone needs to tell this idiot beotch that MURDER is immoral.. if killing was immoral then God wouldn't do it, or advocate it in certain circumstances. She needs some serious re-edumakashion.


10 posted on 12/13/2005 4:55:35 PM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Thunder90

Yeah, like a test case. To put the military and war on trial. That makes sense.


11 posted on 12/13/2005 4:55:58 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Thunder90
After reading essays by Bertrand Russel and traveling to the South Pacific and talking to people from all over the world, my beliefs about humanity and its relation to war changed.

I don't know WHERE in the South Pacific, but it wasn't MY island..

12 posted on 12/13/2005 4:56:37 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Thunder90
Fine. Serve the rest of your voluntary enlistment in Leavenworth, followed by a dishonorable discharge for dereliction of duty and cowardice in the face of the enemy.
13 posted on 12/13/2005 4:56:54 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: Thunder90

BUmparoo


14 posted on 12/13/2005 4:57:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Thunder90

"I think killing is wrong. So, I guess my only choice is to join the Army!"


15 posted on 12/13/2005 4:58:23 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Thunder90
She wanted to experience the military life,it was a lot of fun except for the part about obeying orders.

Hope she gets an undesirable dd,she ain`t worth a dishonarble dd fight
16 posted on 12/13/2005 5:00:14 PM PST by 31M20RedDevil
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To: Thunder90
What characterizes a conscientious objector is their willingness to face adversity and uphold their values at any cost.

Send her to Iraq without the wespons training. She can be a "human shield."

17 posted on 12/13/2005 5:00:20 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Thunder90

I look forward to seeing her lead protest marches against the violent insurgents who main and kill small children.

She doesn't even have to go to Iraq and put her life at risk. She can protest the vile terrorists safely from America. At LEAST one "antiwar" protester has to show some opposition to the terrorists' war.


18 posted on 12/13/2005 5:00:43 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Awestruck
if killing was immoral then God wouldn't do it, or advocate it in certain circumstances.

She apparently doesn't believe in God. She worships humanity. Fool.

"Just as others have faith in God, I have faith in humanity."

19 posted on 12/13/2005 5:01:01 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
I can see how a conscript might honestly claim Conscientious Objector status.

But a volunteer? No Way! I can only see a less-than-honorable discharge for breech of contract.
20 posted on 12/13/2005 5:01:26 PM PST by dropzone
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To: Thunder90


Isn't this kind of stuff screened before enlisting a person?

And if you change your mind afterwards well then tough chit.

Sounds like she only believes in the power of humanity from the safety under her bed.


21 posted on 12/13/2005 5:01:55 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Awestruck

Someone should ask her at a press conference what her stance is on abortion.


22 posted on 12/13/2005 5:02:27 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Thunder90
Violence only begets more violence.

She disproved that assertion with her own position. She believes violence should be met by passive surrender.

"A bully is beating me up, Mom -- what should I do?" "Just let him keep beating you up, dear -- fighting back would be violence, and violence only begets more violence!"

Ship her out on the next plane.

23 posted on 12/13/2005 5:02:45 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: LexBaird
Just as others have faith in God, I have faith in humanity.

Then she should have faith in her fellow human soldiers and hang tough with them. To leave them at a time like this would be to lose faith in them.

24 posted on 12/13/2005 5:03:03 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Thunder90
Get her out and get her gone. This is nothing special.
Do the paper and send her home on the bus. Nothing to see here.
25 posted on 12/13/2005 5:03:32 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: Thunder90
I have a deeply held belief that people must solve all conflicts through peaceful diplomacy and without the use of violence. Violence only begets more violence.

Where was she talking out the muSlimes when they piloted the aircrafts into the Twin Towers? Ain't world nice without the wars and with peaceful diplomacy Eh?
Another useful dumb rat coming out of RAT drawer after Shhhhehan, Muuuuurtha....

26 posted on 12/13/2005 5:03:35 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Thunder90
Just as others have faith in God, I have faith in humanity

Hmmm. She's obviously not much of a history buff.

27 posted on 12/13/2005 5:03:38 PM PST by dropzone
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To: You Dirty Rats

Dishonorable discharge for her. Period.


28 posted on 12/13/2005 5:04:23 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Just as others have faith in God, I have faith in humanity

Typical neo-hippie denying that people can be evil and must be stopped, oh, unless their name is Bush.. but Saddam, no, he is just misunderstood..

I would have been far more sympathetic if she became a Buddhist or Catholic Nun and objected on newly found religious grounds.
29 posted on 12/13/2005 5:05:11 PM PST by mnehring ("Everybody better celebrate the holidays my way or shut the hell up." The Christmas spirit lives.)
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To: Thunder90
After reading essays by Bertrand Russel

You can stop reading right there. It's no different than reading Marx, Lenin, Mao, Giap etc. (Just another Leftist useful idiot.)

30 posted on 12/13/2005 5:06:04 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))
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To: USNBandit

Good point. She should be allowed out only if she reimburses the Army for the cost of her training, uniforms and every penny she's collected.


31 posted on 12/13/2005 5:06:52 PM PST by jess35
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To: Thunder90
If she hates the military so much, and she supports commies, then why did she enlist?

THE $$$$.

32 posted on 12/13/2005 5:07:16 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: My2Cents
Like many teenagers who leave their home for the first time, I went through a period of growth and soul searching.

She obviously didn't find anything.

It's called college at UT-Austin. It is more to the left than UW-Madison, full of leftwing professors. If she was a moonbat before going to college, then she really was one afterword.

And why did she go to Texas. She could have fit in right here in Madison.

33 posted on 12/13/2005 5:08:19 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

If she "believe[s] so-stromgly in non-violence", why did she join the ARMY national Guard???

What an idiot.


34 posted on 12/13/2005 5:09:01 PM PST by libertyman ("It's [the Constitution] just a g-ddamned piece of paper" --Presidebt Bush, Nov. '05)
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To: JOE43270

Right then.
Off to jail she goes, so she can fulfill her legal obligations, just as she claims a willingness to do.
Actually, I can respect a self-admitted delusional coward who makes his/her position known well prior to deployment, more than I would a regular run of the mill coward who claims CO status after he/she gets deployment orders.
She should have been weeded out in BMT, but some coast under the radar.
Off to jail and/or a dishonorable discharge.


35 posted on 12/13/2005 5:09:30 PM PST by sarasmom ("The French are revolting." Some phrases are true on so many levels, it's mystical!)
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To: Thunder90

I smell a Court Martial in the making.


36 posted on 12/13/2005 5:10:16 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: Thunder90

"I have a deeply held belief that people must solve all conflicts through peaceful diplomacy and without the use of violence. Violence only begets more violence."

I would thank her to STFU.


37 posted on 12/13/2005 5:11:53 PM PST by jdm
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To: Thunder90

One possibility that was used in earlier wars would be to put her in a medical unit. Since she lacks the training, she could work as a gopher or clerk or something.

In any base, are they using women as combat troops these days? Is anyone asking her to kill anybody?


38 posted on 12/13/2005 5:12:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Thunder90
Not In Our Name is run by the Revolutionary Communist Party, a party whose symbol is a rifle and a bayonet.

This chick is SO stupid to work with them doing this...
The "Peace Movement" has so many liars in it.

39 posted on 12/13/2005 5:14:51 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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To: Thunder90
"Because I believe so strongly in non-violence, I cannot perform any role in the military. Any person doing any job in the Army, contributes in some way to the planning, preparation or implementation of war."

---TRANSLATION---

I have finished college.
The G.I. Bill helped me tremendously.
I not longer need any monetary help from the "military war machine" of the United States.
Thank you very much.

When I served, this could get you in prison...now it gets you a book deal.
40 posted on 12/13/2005 5:16:56 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (sayyy....this Al Qaida thing looks serious....)
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To: Thunder90
Without reading this POSs BS explanation, let me guess the true motive:

"I wanted some easy money and thought it would be fun to play soldier every once in a while. I didn't want to do any real work for it."
41 posted on 12/13/2005 5:17:31 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Thunder90
People can have valid reasons for not wanting to take another's life, but the woman in question lost me with this statement:

Because I believe so strongly in non-violence, I cannot perform any role in the military. Any person doing any job in the Army, contributes in some way to the planning, preparation or implementation of war.

She already contributes to the war effort by paying taxes.

42 posted on 12/13/2005 5:17:46 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Doctor Raoul

International ANSWER and United for Peace have came to her side as well.


43 posted on 12/13/2005 5:18:02 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

So has Codepink


44 posted on 12/13/2005 5:18:47 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Doctor Raoul
Peace Movement

More like an Intellectual Bowel Movement
45 posted on 12/13/2005 5:19:11 PM PST by mnehring ("Everybody better celebrate the holidays my way or shut the hell up." The Christmas spirit lives.)
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To: JOE43270

Don't boot her out. Put her in jail for a few years.

The official response should be:

"You don't want to fight? Fine. But you're going to put your time in. If you won't serve military time, you will serve jail time. And, by the way, return every last dime of money you took from the American taxpayers."


46 posted on 12/13/2005 5:19:39 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Thunder90
Just as others have faith in God, I have faith in humanity

Boy did she ever misplace her faith....
47 posted on 12/13/2005 5:20:35 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Does that mean that she gets to write childrens books and get out sooner? /sarc


48 posted on 12/13/2005 5:20:58 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: weegee

My first thought, too. I got 5 bucks says she's pro-"choice."


49 posted on 12/13/2005 5:21:46 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: ItsForTheChildren

And Anti-Gun. She probably hated every moment of range time, and probably does not know how to use a M-16 properly.


50 posted on 12/13/2005 5:22:57 PM PST by Thunder90
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