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SB-403, Personal Protection Act, Wisconsin Assembly, live debate thread, 12/13/2005
Wisconsin State Assembly ^ | 12/13/05 | Senator ZIEN, Representative GUNDERSON,

Posted on 12/13/2005 6:20:02 AM PST by Monitor

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To: Monitor
I don't know about you but this music is being "seared into my memory".

ack!

41 posted on 12/13/2005 9:38:21 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; Ladysmith; rellimpank; nuzman; WIladyconservative; gnarledmaw

Back in session.


42 posted on 12/13/2005 9:40:14 PM PST by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; Ladysmith; rellimpank; nuzman; WIladyconservative; gnarledmaw
They're now finally debating adoption of amendments to SB-403!!!
43 posted on 12/13/2005 9:42:19 PM PST by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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To: Monitor

Here we go. The BS to restrict law-abiding citizens "for the children".


44 posted on 12/13/2005 9:43:40 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: Monitor

Oh, sure hope Moulton speaks up - he owns a lot of businesses here. And he's pro-2nd.


45 posted on 12/13/2005 9:56:29 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: Monitor

What is up with this crap?

Instruction on the privilege of self-defense and the defense of others

Instruction on how to avoid injuring 3rd parties when defending himself, herself, or others in a manner that is privileged under s. 939.48

Privilege? I always thought self defense was a right?


46 posted on 12/13/2005 10:02:35 PM PST by MissouriConservative (I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; Ladysmith; rellimpank; nuzman; WIladyconservative; gnarledmaw

There's now 17 proposed amendments to SB-403.


47 posted on 12/13/2005 10:34:31 PM PST by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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To: Monitor
Some nutbag is claiming Concealed carry holders have a 66% crime rate, "far higher" than the norm...

Who is this jackass?

48 posted on 12/13/2005 10:37:56 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Boyle from the 73rd. I just fired off an email to Gunderson about these lies... LAW-ABIDING citizens are not the threat to LEO.


49 posted on 12/13/2005 10:39:57 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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Woman from the 20th equates CCW holders to abortion clinic bombers? Im more concerned about wackos who would belive that...


50 posted on 12/13/2005 10:53:58 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Can you believe it? They want to remove Milwaukee from the bill? That's not going to stop crime there. In fact, criminals will flock there where they know they won't be shot at.


51 posted on 12/13/2005 11:15:12 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: gnarledmaw

This guy, Young, has a point?? I'm going to fall asleep waiting for him to finish a sentence, let alone a thought...


52 posted on 12/13/2005 11:17:53 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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A fellow from the 16th, who sounds rather "reverse" racist to me, argues that law abiding black people (his area) shouldnt be allowed to carry because:

A. black people have to take their cars to Luther, the alley mechanic
and
B. "a lot of people" (criminals) already carry guns

Some fine reasoning there...

53 posted on 12/13/2005 11:30:47 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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Oh, he was unbelievable! His arguments was showing why CCW would work - and then HE SAYS IT WON'T! Man, he had no idea what he was saying!
54 posted on 12/13/2005 11:40:29 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: Ladysmith

If you drive past a bus on the highway with a gun in your car youre subject to a felony, 42 month imprisonment? This woman (75th) is deranged...


55 posted on 12/13/2005 11:46:17 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: gnarledmaw

LOL! No doubt! Black is right - that's one nasty amendment!


56 posted on 12/13/2005 11:50:28 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: gnarledmaw

OMG! They adopted it!


57 posted on 12/13/2005 11:51:34 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; rellimpank; nuzman; WIladyconservative; Monitor

Still here?


58 posted on 12/14/2005 12:01:26 AM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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Oh lordie - it's too late in the night be listening to Chuckie Cheese Young again!

...ZZZZZZZZZZZ....

59 posted on 12/14/2005 12:08:50 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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Oh lordie - it's too late in the night be listening to Chuckie Cheese Young again!

Yea, I just might "loose it" and start shooting everything in sight! My Lord, these people are delusional.

60 posted on 12/14/2005 12:14:06 AM PST by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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