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Arizona bishops release dramatic letter on immigration
CNA ^ | 12.09.05

Posted on 12/10/2005 1:30:46 PM PST by Coleus

Tucson, Dec. 09, 2005 (CNA) - The bishops of Arizona are calling on Catholics to welcome immigrants into their parishes, whether documented or undocumented, and to work to reform the U.S. immigration laws in an effort to facilitate immigration and stem the growing number of migrant deaths at the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Arizona Catholic Conference has made this appeal in its first-ever pastoral letter on migration, titled “You Welcomed Me.” It will be officially released Dec. 12, on the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

Arizona has become the focal point of the immigration debate in recent years, given the concentration of border crossing at the Arizona-Mexico border, the record number of migrant deaths, and the growing presence of civilian patrol groups, noted the bishops.

In 2005, at least 261 border crossing deaths were documented in Arizona—more than half of the 460 migrant deaths reported all along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The bishops expressed their sadness about the deaths at the border, the division among citizens over the issue of immigration, and the hostility expressed toward migrants. They acknowledged “the legitimate strain of this crisis” on different aspects of society, but they reminded Catholics of their call “to live out the principles of global solidarity” and to defend the human dignity of the other.

Despite these hardships, the bishops said they believe Arizona can “lead the country to a comprehensive and permanent solution to our broken immigration system.”

Based in Scripture and teaching The bishops highlighted the scriptural foundation for the call of Catholics to “welcome the stranger,” citing the experience of the people of Israel in Egypt and their subsequent liberation, the Gospel story of the Good Samaritan, and the Holy Family’s flight into Egypt as refugees.

Catholic social teaching has consistently maintained that the goods of the earth belong to all people and that it is the right of the worker to migrate to sustain their family when they are unable to achieve a life of dignity in their own land, the bishops underlined.

This teaching was stated in 1891 in the encyclical “Rerum Novarum.” It was repeated 40 years later by Pope Pius XI in his document “Quadragessimo Anno,” and then again at the end of World War II by Pope Pius XII in “Exsul Familia.”

And while Catholic teaching recognizes that nations have the right to control their own borders and to regulate immigration, “this right is not absolute,” said the bishops. Instead, they explained: “the needs of immigrants must be measured against the needs of the receiving countries, and that the rights of these nations must not be exaggerated to the point of denying access to needy people from other countries.”

Wealth of contributions There are currently about 10 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., and the bishops noted their contributions, particularly in Arizona, both economically and in the Church.

For example, the bishops cited a report by the Thunderbird School of International Management, which states that Mexican immigrants generated a fiscal surplus of approximately US$106 million to Arizona in 2001.

As many of the immigrants are Catholic, they have also brought deeply rooted religious traditions and practices to parishes throughout the state, said the bishops.

“They have proven themselves to be extremely hard working and very committed to the family values we hold so dear. Many of our parishes in the state have blossomed because of the contributions of new immigrant parishioners and their families,” the bishops continued. “Finding new ways to welcome and integrate immigrants into parish life can only make us a stronger and more united Church in Arizona.”

Acknowledging the legitimate concern that undocumented immigrants are violating the law, the bishops described the country’s immigration laws as “outdated,” no longer fitting “the economic realities and security needs of our times.”

“While we do not condone undocumented immigration, we recognize that it would not be feasible to deport all of these immigrants. We must find a way to bring them out of the shadows and incorporate them into society,” said the bishops. “This will ultimately enhance national security, help stabilize the labor market in the United States, improve the living standards of immigrant communities, and encourage them to become more active participants in our society.”

The bishops said they would like others to join them in their commitment to pray for and with all those affected by this crisis; make parishes more welcoming; learn about the issues; call for comprehensive immigration reform; support efforts to reduce poverty in Mexico and Latin America; and participate in the partnership with sister dioceses in Mexico.

They have also invited priests and parishioners to reflect on these issues and to discuss ways to transform the situation. Parishes are urged to prayerfully reflect and comment in small groups on the pastoral letter, using the attached study guide.

Arizona’s bishops include Bishops Gerald Kicanas of Tucson; Thomas Olmsted of Phoenix; Donald Pelotte of Gallop, and William Skurla of the Byzantine Catholic Eparchy of Van Nuys.

For the full letter, go to:

http://www.diocesetucson.org/bishopsletter113004.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; bishops; borders; catholiccaucus; catholicchurch; catholiclist; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationlist; phoenix
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Hmm, and I thought that as Christians , we were supposed to obey civil authority (give to Caesar what is Caesar's) and now they want us to break the law and commit a sin by encouraging and fostering illegal immigration. Shall we do the same for Al-qaeda?
1 posted on 12/10/2005 1:30:47 PM PST by Coleus
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http://www.diocesephoenix.org/acc/


2 posted on 12/10/2005 1:30:58 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Another reason I don't feel bad about leaving the Catholic church.
susie


3 posted on 12/10/2005 1:33:10 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: brytlea
Another reason I don't feel bad about leaving the Catholic church.

I'm sure it is just a coincidence that this policy is totally self-serving for the Catholic Church. People like you are leaving the church and Hispanic illegal migrants, most of whom conveniently happen to be Catholics, are filling it back up.

I don't think the Catholic Church is quite so enamored with immigration in Europe where the migrants mainly happen to be Muslim.

4 posted on 12/10/2005 1:39:15 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Coleus

I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy. Catholics poo poohed it saying the Vatican was not involved in influencing American catholics.

The vatican is no different than Al Queda in it's desire to take over the world.

It must feel queasy about Europe and is doubling it's efforts to take over America.

The Vatican never agreed to Freedom of religion.


5 posted on 12/10/2005 1:39:17 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: Coleus
And while Catholic teaching recognizes that nations have the right to control their own borders and to regulate immigration, “this right is not absolute,” said the bishops. Instead, they explained: “the needs of immigrants must be measured against the needs of the receiving countries, and that the rights of these nations must not be exaggerated to the point of denying access to needy people from other countries.”

pure Barbra Streisand. If they are fleeing political oppression OK. If economic malnutrition...no way!

6 posted on 12/10/2005 1:39:18 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Coleus

I guess filling the pews is the almighty most important issue.


7 posted on 12/10/2005 1:41:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Coleus

In 12 years of Catholic schooling we were NEVER once told that it was a requirement of our faith to embrace social and communist principles. Rerum Novarum MAY have been twisted by socialistic Catholics but NO Pope has stated as an article of faith that there is no right to private property. This letter is pure BS by deluded, socialist, economically ignorant clergy.


8 posted on 12/10/2005 1:41:59 PM PST by NHResident (i)
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To: Coleus

In 12 years of Catholic schooling we were NEVER once told that it was a requirement of our faith to embrace social and communist principles. Rerum Novarum MAY have been twisted by socialistic Catholics but NO Pope has stated as an article of faith that there is no right to private property. This letter is pure BS by deluded, socialist, economically ignorant clergy.


9 posted on 12/10/2005 1:42:18 PM PST by NHResident (i)
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To: Coleus

It is absolutely apropriate for a church to welcome all human beings into a church.

It is a tragedy that migrants are dying attempting to cross the desert. One good way to stop these deaths, is with a long fence... How about that for immigration reform. Stop illegal immigration cold, then raise and lower legal immigration levels as the economy needs. Mexico should become less corrupt and more condusive for investment, but that is mostly their problem to resolve.


10 posted on 12/10/2005 1:42:25 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: cripplecreek
I guess filling the pews collection plate is the almighty most important issue.

I fixed it for you.

11 posted on 12/10/2005 1:43:18 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble

I wonder if the RC is bothered a bit by the illegals depositing their illegally obtained work into the collection plate?


12 posted on 12/10/2005 1:43:36 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: Coleus

The Catholic church has been running an Underground Railroad for Illegals for decades.

I live in a a town of about 7000 people. The Hispanic population in the area about 3%. Our Catholic Church added a Spanish service, then for some reason ended it. But now all services are Spanish and English, roughly 50/50, complete with Mariachi style hymns. The change is far from popular. Attendance is down, many have complained, but the Church seems to not care at all.


13 posted on 12/10/2005 1:44:36 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Coleus

Add this to the Kentucky bishops calling "adequate health care a basic human right"


14 posted on 12/10/2005 1:45:15 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: bert

Let's see if I understand the sense of all this proclamation:

As a Catholic Church leader, I am doing the following:
I am driving out the Americans who are citizens and belong here who have jobs legally and businesses and who for generations have contributed to the Catholic Church and it's charities.
Then I am going to embrace illegal intruders who are not allowed to work in the USA, who send 80% of their check back to Mexico and other S American countries, and who will NEVER make enough money to come close to filling the coffers that the American citizens who have been church members for years have shown able to do.
Now, as the Catholic Church, I will have much less money to run my church.
Therefore, I can only surmise that I have a whole bunch of new juvenile recruits for my pedophile priests, and less money for the lawyers to go after IF any of the illegal intruders have the audacity to sue me for the behavior of my pedophile priests.
Do I understand all of this theory?????
What a crock- one of the largest churches in the USA flaunting the law on illegal intruders. Good luck to them as more American citizens question whether this church is really speaking for them.


15 posted on 12/10/2005 1:48:39 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: jackbenimble

This is the strange part. They do not contribute much at all. But they do take complete advantage of any service the Church provides. They use the Sunday school and Bible study as their personal day care, routinely showing up hours late to pick up their kids.


16 posted on 12/10/2005 1:49:46 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Don Corleone

If economic malnutrition...no way!""
Economic malnutrition driven by having too many children you cannot afford--and the Catholic Church encourages large families.
Sounds like an oxymoron to me.


17 posted on 12/10/2005 1:50:13 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles

The church will insist as the article said that you embrace the coming hoard.


18 posted on 12/10/2005 1:50:27 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: Coleus
Wonder if anyone is going to make this a 'separation of Church and State' issue?

Nah, just good citizens voicing their individual opinions all at once.

19 posted on 12/10/2005 1:50:52 PM PST by norton
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To: Coleus
I am a practicing Catholic who is one of many like-minded conservative Catholics who disagree with the AZ bishops on this. Bluntly, their flock is different than mine, and mine stops at the AZ/Sonora border.

However I am disgusted and appalled by the vicious anti-Catholicism by many of the posters on this thread, and wonder if I should continue to keep cybercompany with such people.
20 posted on 12/10/2005 1:51:33 PM PST by conservativehistorian (.)
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To: cripplecreek

Follow the money.


21 posted on 12/10/2005 1:54:42 PM PST by irons_player
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To: bert
I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy.

As you should have been.

Catholics poo poohed it saying the Vatican was not involved in influencing American catholics.

The above foolish, prudential statement comes from the Bishops in Arizona not the Vatican and I wonder how you felt about the instruction from then Cardinal Ratzinger to Catholics about voting for politicians who promote abortion.

The vatican is no different than Al Queda in it's desire to take over the world.

That is your asinine, prudential opinion.

Vatican Warns Catholics Against Marrying Muslims

It must feel queasy about Europe and is doubling it's efforts to take over America.

Another asinine, prudential opinion.

The Vatican never agreed to Freedom of religion.

The Vatican believes that man possesses free will.

22 posted on 12/10/2005 1:59:15 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: moehoward

Attendance is down, many have complained, but the Church seems to not care at all. >>>

they'll change, I know up north, the Hispanic Masses don't come close in the collection basket as do the others.

and I like to point out to liberal catholics is that how are we helping the immigration of those catholics in India, Africa and elsewhere? Seems they don't count, just the illegals coming from Mexico do. That's not too fair.


24 posted on 12/10/2005 2:01:46 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: bert
I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy. >>

the catholic church was instrumental to America's development and growth. It's responsible for the Renaissance in Europe and an integral part of our Western Civilization.
25 posted on 12/10/2005 2:04:32 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

It prospered in Spanish held areas but coveted the USA.

It is now going for it.


26 posted on 12/10/2005 2:06:33 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: ridesthemiles

If you keep them in poverty and desperate for your help, it's far easier to control them.


27 posted on 12/10/2005 2:08:06 PM PST by jess35
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To: bert
The vatican is no different than Al Queda in it's desire to take over the world.

Oh jeez, something else to worry about huh? The topic of immigration sometimes precipitates the most interesting comments.

28 posted on 12/10/2005 2:12:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: bert
It prospered in Spanish held areas but coveted the USA. It is now going for it.

Here is the party that is the best fit for you.

29 posted on 12/10/2005 2:18:39 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

...Oh jeez, something else to worry about huh? ......

Both Robert Heinlein the noted futurist and Will Durant the greatest modern historian warned of the coming Catholic migration decades ago.


30 posted on 12/10/2005 2:19:01 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: Mount Athos

A real question arises: Are not the migrants being exploited by the rich? Do they think that Mexico will ever have a just government when the ruling class of that country can export their needy to North America?


31 posted on 12/10/2005 2:20:22 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: bert

I guess it won't be long until Roe v Wade is reversed huh?


32 posted on 12/10/2005 2:20:44 PM PST by Torie
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To: jackbenimble

Excellent point. I generally don't have a problem with the Catholic faith (I am the oddball who consider them fellow Christians) HOWEVER this stuff goes all over me. Even when I was a member I hated their socialistic leanings.

susie


33 posted on 12/10/2005 2:27:03 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: willstayfree

Churches are more than welcome to try to tackle the problem in the home countries that are disgorging zillions of illegal immigrants into the US. It's far easier to chastize the Rich Americans into taking them all in.

susie


34 posted on 12/10/2005 2:29:20 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: conservativehistorian
wonder if I should continue to keep cybercompany with such people.

Yes, please do. Pray for them, lead by example, and ignore stupid comments.

Oh, wait, I don't do that last one either! ;)

susie

35 posted on 12/10/2005 2:31:23 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: bert

We are descendants of Europe, it was by the catholic church who had influence in Europe, who educated children, whose monasteries transcribed the bible, wrote the entire logarithmic tables, was responsible for so many inventions. there is so much the church did for the world and for the continuation of western civilization that the average person and non-catholic just does not know.


36 posted on 12/10/2005 2:43:03 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Those Bishops are outlaws.


37 posted on 12/10/2005 2:46:43 PM PST by RoadTest (As teens we know everything; by 90, if we're wise, we'll know nothing.)
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To: moehoward

"The Catholic church has been running an Underground Railroad for Illegals for decades. "

You mean like "The Ratline" for Nazis to Argentina?


38 posted on 12/10/2005 2:51:46 PM PST by RoadTest (As teens we know everything; by 90, if we're wise, we'll know nothing.)
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To: conservativehistorian

I hope you will. In countries where the Catholic religion dominates church leaders are part of the power structure. They feed off the ignorance and superstition of peasant classes in third world nations. Mexico is a good example.
American Catholic rank and file are primarily good moral people. The bishops, cardinals, etc are not. America's large middle class is too enlightened to accept Catholic doctrine without question. They also will not tolerate the immorality of the above.


39 posted on 12/10/2005 3:02:59 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: jess35

You are right on!


40 posted on 12/10/2005 3:04:49 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: Coleus

The federal government should remove tax-exempt status from law-breaking churches whether they be catholic or protestant.


41 posted on 12/10/2005 3:33:10 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: Mogollon

They should

the catholic ones which support harboring illegals

and the protestant ones which allow democrat politicians who campaign from the pulpit.


42 posted on 12/10/2005 3:35:04 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Compare if you will the nations of Central and South America and the Phillippines that have strong Spanish Catholic origin and history and the USA.

The USA was largely built by Protestants who were experiencing the Reformation and the French enlightenment.

America can be said to be the shining example of both. When freed from the Roman Catholic church great things happen. When stifled by its influence there is stagnation as in the Central/South and the Philippines.


43 posted on 12/10/2005 3:43:20 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: bert

if it weren't for Columbus and Vespucci there wouldn't be an America.


44 posted on 12/10/2005 3:53:31 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Goodness, you would think this was turning into a recruiting thread for a Chick Fan Club.


45 posted on 12/10/2005 4:57:11 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: bert
I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy.
Right you are! Too late, though. We control you already ! A Knight of Columbus behind every corner, a Jesuit in every faculty, billions of unwashed evil mindcontrolled voters behind each of our politicians!

And once we control the SC, too, its only a matter of time. Look how brilliantly we engineered the demise of that protestant SC candidate recently - without any trace back to us. A word in the right ears here and there, a few discrete heaps of money to the right organizations, and furious protestants emerge from all sides to drive that woman back where she belongs.

And, what a miracle, a few days later, another Jesuit educated catholic judge comes ourt of nowhere, to be the only acceptable contender for the post. Still, Scalia is under orders to play the independent thinker, but rest assured, his loyalties to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is as trusworthy as ever.

I just love a good conspiracy....
46 posted on 12/10/2005 5:49:10 PM PST by Tullius
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To: Coleus

"We must find a way to bring them out of the shadows and incorporate them into society,” said the bishops."

Yeah, right man! Good luck Father.


47 posted on 12/10/2005 7:21:55 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I think we discussed this article on FR a few days ago:

Most Mexican Immigrants in New Study Gave Up Jobs to Take Their Chances in U.S.

These immigrants are not economic refugees who were starving in Mexico but simply people who are greedy to make more money and who were willing to break our law to get it. I think Catholicism has something to say about that kind of behavior"

Maledictus qui transfert terminos proximi sui et dicet omnis populus amen

Which translates to:

Deuteronomy Chapter 27:17. Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmarks: and all the people shall say: Amen.

I believe this is normally understood as the 10th of the Ten Commandments: Thou shall not covet they neighbor's property.

48 posted on 12/11/2005 7:24:19 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble

Folks, we have a WINNER !!


49 posted on 12/11/2005 7:34:43 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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50 posted on 12/11/2005 1:50:43 PM PST by gubamyster
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