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Cameras accuse 2,600 of speeding (Orwellian Move by Democrat City Council and Mayor in Akron, OH)
Akron Beacon Journal ^ | 12/06/05 | John Higgins

Posted on 12/09/2005 6:35:35 AM PST by RockinRight

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Cameras in Germany are prevalent...and used to be absolute fool-proof...with no one being able to argue about them and their accuracy. But in the past two or three years...experts have began taking these apart and realizing that certain types of cameras are faulty. There are cameras angled at such...that they are pointed at the front vehicle but are actually hitting the fast approaching second vehicle or truck from behind. So there are experts showing up in German court and actually taking apart the fool-proof system that the cops thought they had. Even the courts are starting to slide over to the defense side and dismiss cases that have just a simple expert displaying the angles of the camera and the inability of the technician to place them correctly.


81 posted on 12/09/2005 11:27:45 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: add925

Where are you originally from?


82 posted on 12/09/2005 11:35:37 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight
Indianapolis since '57, born in West Germany (US Airforce Brat).

Interestingly, father's family is from near Marietta.....talk about EXCELLENT motorcycle riding in the foothills of the Apps.

There's a 0% chance of speed cameras on the roads I ride down there!

83 posted on 12/09/2005 11:40:06 AM PST by add925
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To: RockinRight
Some had seen the tripods and suspected they'd been snapped.

UHhhh.....

Are these PORTABLE???

Like with a TRAILER HITCH?

84 posted on 12/09/2005 11:46:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Recovering Hermit

....eatin' a donut.


85 posted on 12/09/2005 11:56:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: RockinRight
"OK, we recall him, and I'll run for mayor!"

In all seriousness, this Cameras for Ca$h is the kind of thing that gets mayors recalled, and you certainly have the enthusiasm to run a fired-up campaign.

86 posted on 12/09/2005 1:01:45 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: StAnDeliver

Some other campaign positions:

Term limits for mayor and council (current mayor's been in since '87)
Major tax incentives for any high-tech industry to locate headquarters in town, more if they also locate manufacturing


87 posted on 12/09/2005 1:10:24 PM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: z3n
My point is that it is law, and the government has the right to enforce them as long as they are not convicting the innocent.

How do you know if they are not convicting the innocent? With a camera, the individual who gets a ticket part of their ability to dispute the ticket.

88 posted on 12/09/2005 2:12:01 PM PST by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: RockinRight

If I lived in Akron, I'd vote for you. Rock on!


89 posted on 12/10/2005 2:07:30 AM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: RockinRight
If the muslim riots in France last month are any indication on the politically-correct-suicide pact the socialist/liberals have, these cameras will be used to prevent and punish police officers from stopping riots and other large scale crimes.

It's not Orwellian, which is a police state with seeks to survive, it is suicidal insanity.

90 posted on 12/10/2005 2:14:18 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: StAnDeliver

Thanks!

I'm giving it major consideration, and might go ahead and register a web domain for it. The next mayoral election is in 2007, so I have a while.

Maybe I can get (hopeful) GOVERNOR Blackwell's endorsement by then!


91 posted on 12/10/2005 8:38:25 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I know you're not in Akron, but Ping! anyway.


92 posted on 12/10/2005 8:53:36 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight
Nestor collects $19 from each paid ticket. It's a civil infraction rather than a criminal one, so it's not reported to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and does not add points to a driver's license.

This can't possibly be constitutional. How do you face your accuser when your accuser is a for profit corporation operating a machine. Big brother has outsourced speeding tickets.

93 posted on 12/10/2005 8:56:25 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Big Brother is watching and fining you appropriately)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Which may well be a big point of my mayoral campaign in 2007...if I should decide to run.


94 posted on 12/10/2005 9:18:08 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight

If you run, I'll do what I can to help.


95 posted on 12/10/2005 10:08:19 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Blackwell for governor, Pence for POTUS, Rockin Right for mayor)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Next mayoral race in Akron is in '07. I could probably get the support of:

-Police Union (they oppose the cameras)
-Governor Blackwell (hopefully he will be!)
-Most business groups
-OAMB (Ohio Assn. of Mortgage Brokers)
-Summit County and Ohio GOP
-Many Freepers!


96 posted on 12/10/2005 10:19:19 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: teeman8r

how the in the world to you declare, in a court of law, one person an alert driver and another not? There is no way, so the enforcement system has to assume the lowest common denominator. All of your alert driver comments go right out the window at the first intersection traffic accident, because they happen everyday and most people will describe a moment when they lost sight of the lights and made a mistake. get real.


97 posted on 12/10/2005 11:05:10 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: dubyaismypresident

Well today's Beacon Journal says the mayor is "reconsidering" the cameras...looks like I lost a campaign promise!


98 posted on 12/10/2005 11:46:07 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: q_an_a

now you're getting real... the accident happens because of something... ticket the driver when the accident occurs... not that they may be driving to cause harm to someone... that is what speeding tickets are... crimes that might cause harm to someone but hasn't yet...

revenue generating.

teeman


99 posted on 12/10/2005 12:55:17 PM PST by teeman8r
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