Posted on 12/08/2005 9:46:29 AM PST by shooter223
HAMTRAMCK, Mich. (AP) An argument between two police officers over whether they should stop for a soft drink ended with the male officer using a Taser stun gun on his female partner, authorities say.
A Taser delivers an electrical shock to immobilize its target.
Ronald Dupuis, 32, of Allen Park was charged Wednesday with assault, which carries up to 93 days in jail on conviction. His arraignment was not yet scheduled, Hamtramck police Chief James Doyle told the Detroit Free Press
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Looks like a bad penny.
Hmmm lets see if he was driving all he'd have to do is pull
over some place to get himself a soda...
If she was driving I hope he 'tazed' her at a stoplight...
rather than on the freeway going 70 mph
Guess this guy wanted to stop!
Remember, only trained LEOs are levelheaded enough to use weapons like Tasers and handguns responsibly.
Better than the two Michigan State Police Troopers who had a shootout in the parking lot of the Capitol. Male and female officers in that one as well. I guess Tasers weren't standard issue to the Capitol Security detail.
She said she wanted to be 'pampered' and he thought she said she wanted to be 'ampered'.
Sounds like an even chance they were in a moving vehicle.
This guy is a absolute mental patient in any case.
I note the police union's attorney is telling him to hire his own lawyer.
Most cops I know have been pricks and this guy will most likely stay a cop which is sad
What! That's _______ insane!
Whenever I've done that with a female partner, it was off duty when we were playing good cop, bad cop.
My oh my. The police certainly are sensitive when an officer gets tased. That's just supposed to be for "normal" people.
I thought this looked familiar.
It happened Nov 3.
I won't call DUPE because it's too damn funny!
He do be mobile.
Sounds worse than a love spat to me. Takes a strong emotional attachment to a woman to want to taser her.
A little off topic and not sure how it relates to this incident, but isn't Hamtranck MI the place where the local practioners of TROP sued to allow their 'call to prayer' to be blared on loudspeakers 5x a day?
practioners=practitioners
Yep, Pole town. Right in the middle of a bunch of Roman Catholic neighborhoods. They felt that if they could ring their bells on Sunday morning then it would be ok for them to have some squeeling sing-song blare from loud speakers all the time.
On the "911 dispatcher sued over woman's violent death" thread I stated that cops are held to a different standard than we peasants are, getting a reaction from both of you. "More cop bashing."
Tell me, if a civilian tases a cop for any reason, let alone because the civilian wants the cop to buy a soda for him, do you suppose the civilian would face any less than felony assault on an officer, felony interference with a peace officer, and multiple other serious criminal charges? As opposed to simple assault?
1997 -- Weight Problems: In January, Michigan state security officer Canute Findsen, 43, was shot to death in Lansing by fellow officer Virginia Rich, 51, but then he shot Rich to death just before he died; police believe Rich was upset that Findsen had made one comment too many about her being overweight.
yes
a Donut maybe... but a soda???
Note to self: Exchange taser bought as gift for wife for Christmas for nice fuzzy slippers.
in Michigan,it is illegal for a private citizen to own or posess a taser,so there would be a charge for that also .............had one when I was FFL ..........had to sell it(to a local PD)when I didn't renew my license(when clintoon changed the rules)
BTW folks, it's easy to spot the dirtbag anti-cop/free Mumia crowd. They are first to bitch about the police and last to protect OR serve. Sure, there are people in the position that shouldn't be, just like in every profession.
If you feel that strongly, put some action behind your words and show the world what Law Enforcement should be like.
Doesn't everybody?
Am I wrong to do this?
You missed my point. I'm not criticizing this cop in particular, but rather the policies that hold cops to a different standard than citizens. If a citizen tased a cop for any reason, let alone because the cop wouldn't buy a soda for him: he would be violently arrested, face multiple felony criminal charges, be jailed on million dollar bond, or without bond altogether.
Do you doubt this, Triggerhippie?
But here, a police officer tases another, and isn't taken down violently, isn't in jail, and faces one misdemeanor count of simple assault. (Not even assault against an officer!)
What does it say about the police department generally, and the DA's office, that the actions and criminal charges police officers face for conduct are so, so much lighter than a civilian would face, under the same circusmstances? That's my problem, not the fact that this particular cop is an ass.
If asking that question makes me a part of the "dirtbag anti-cop crowd," then so be it. Perhaps, just the same, you are part of authoritarian JBT-lickers "cops are never wrong" crowd.
This officer needs to be fired and prosecuted just like any other dirtbag. You are absolutely correct.
I realize that all cops aren't fit for the position they find themselves in. One of the first people hired from my academy was the worst violator of the Code of Ethics. She flat-backed her way through the academy, then did the same to get hired. She's probably a Captain by now. That does not mean, however, that all cops are tramps.
The cop is held to a different standard because he/she leads a different existance. Odd shifts, low pay, long hours and the chance of getting shot at. (It is no wonder that ex-military tend to become cops, they've already lived the lifestyle.) Think of this different treatment as a fringe benefit of the LEO being the "Sanitation Engineer" for human garbage.
Trouble is, it isn't going to happen. The criminal charge is already there: simple assault. Period.
I realize that all cops aren't fit for the position they find themselves in. One of the first people hired from my academy was the worst violator of the Code of Ethics. She flat-backed her way through the academy, then did the same to get hired. She's probably a Captain by now. That does not mean, however, that all cops are tramps.
I don't dispute anything you have written. There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Unfortunate, but no biggie.
The cop is held to a different standard because he/she leads a different existance. Odd shifts, low pay, long hours and the chance of getting shot at. (It is no wonder that ex-military tend to become cops, they've already lived the lifestyle.) Think of this different treatment as a fringe benefit of the LEO being the "Sanitation Engineer" for human garbage.
This is where I have a problem. First of all, all of us have the chance of getting shot at, because none of us lives in a zero-crime place. Additionally to that, police officers get to wear, or have to wear, ballistic armor that is provided to them at taxpayer expense, even in jurisdictions where possession of such is a felony for civilians(!) so they have a lot more sporting chance at surviving shootings than we do, as a whole. Furthermore, the mortality rate of police officers is comparable to landscapers, and much lower than many non-government lines of work, e.g. lumberjacks.
Worse than the actuarial aspect is the different treatment itself. Fringe benefits for government agents is the hallmark of tyrannies, not of free countries where "all men are created equal," there is "equal protection under the law," and "justice is blind." This is as opposed to historical situations, ominously returning, in which the King's Men could/can freely roam around and do things that would be harsly punished if mere peasants did them. Having different rules for us and them is one of the reasons we revolted against the British, and set up this country the way we did 200 years ago. And I think rightly so.
That is true. Life isn't fair. Hell, I'm trained to be one and can't because of decisions made years before. That's not fair, but I'm over it.
As for you, if you want to be on the other side of the 'fairness equation', become a cop. The world is the way that it is. Accept that life isn't fair; It never has been and it never will be.
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