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Charges say Hamtramck officer used Taser on partner
Mlive.com ^ | 12/8/2005 | Unknown (AP)

Posted on 12/08/2005 9:46:29 AM PST by shooter223

HAMTRAMCK, Mich. (AP) — An argument between two police officers over whether they should stop for a soft drink ended with the male officer using a Taser stun gun on his female partner, authorities say.

A Taser delivers an electrical shock to immobilize its target.

Ronald Dupuis, 32, of Allen Park was charged Wednesday with assault, which carries up to 93 days in jail on conviction. His arraignment was not yet scheduled, Hamtramck police Chief James Doyle told the Detroit Free Press

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; caste; donutwatch; hamtramck
guess he was thirsty
1 posted on 12/08/2005 9:46:30 AM PST by shooter223
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To: shooter223
Dupuis has worked for police departments in Ecorse, Highland Park, Inkster and Southgate and as a Wayne County sheriff's deputy.

Looks like a bad penny.

2 posted on 12/08/2005 9:49:34 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: shooter223

Hmmm lets see if he was driving all he'd have to do is pull
over some place to get himself a soda...

If she was driving I hope he 'tazed' her at a stoplight...
rather than on the freeway going 70 mph


3 posted on 12/08/2005 9:50:21 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: shooter223; Larry Lucido

Guess this guy wanted to stop!


4 posted on 12/08/2005 9:52:22 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: shooter223

Remember, only trained LEOs are levelheaded enough to use weapons like Tasers and handguns responsibly.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 9:53:22 AM PST by wideawake
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To: shooter223

Better than the two Michigan State Police Troopers who had a shootout in the parking lot of the Capitol. Male and female officers in that one as well. I guess Tasers weren't standard issue to the Capitol Security detail.


6 posted on 12/08/2005 9:55:57 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: shooter223
Turns out it was just a lovers' misunderstanding. He's a little hard of hearing:

She said she wanted to be 'pampered' and he thought she said she wanted to be 'ampered'.

7 posted on 12/08/2005 9:58:39 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: joesnuffy
The linked article implies that she was driving, that he struggled with her to gain control of the wheel and when he was unable to overpower her, he tasered her in the leg.

Sounds like an even chance they were in a moving vehicle.

This guy is a absolute mental patient in any case.

I note the police union's attorney is telling him to hire his own lawyer.

8 posted on 12/08/2005 9:59:16 AM PST by wideawake
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To: shooter223

Most cops I know have been pricks and this guy will most likely stay a cop which is sad


9 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:05 AM PST by skaterboy (Miss my kitty)
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To: Yo-Yo

What! That's _______ insane!


10 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:06 AM PST by wideawake
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To: sit-rep

Whenever I've done that with a female partner, it was off duty when we were playing good cop, bad cop.


11 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:08 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Boycott taglines that don't say Merry Christmas!)
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To: shooter223

My oh my. The police certainly are sensitive when an officer gets tased. That's just supposed to be for "normal" people.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 10:02:42 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: shooter223

I thought this looked familiar.
It happened Nov 3.

I won't call DUPE because it's too damn funny!


13 posted on 12/08/2005 10:11:31 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: ncountylee
Dupuis has worked for police departments in Ecorse, Highland Park, Inkster and Southgate and as a Wayne County sheriff's deputy.

He do be mobile.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 10:12:09 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: shooter223

Sounds worse than a love spat to me. Takes a strong emotional attachment to a woman to want to taser her.


15 posted on 12/08/2005 10:18:09 AM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: shooter223

A little off topic and not sure how it relates to this incident, but isn't Hamtranck MI the place where the local practioners of TROP sued to allow their 'call to prayer' to be blared on loudspeakers 5x a day?


16 posted on 12/08/2005 10:24:51 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: bassmaner

practioners=practitioners


17 posted on 12/08/2005 10:27:01 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: bassmaner

Yep, Pole town. Right in the middle of a bunch of Roman Catholic neighborhoods. They felt that if they could ring their bells on Sunday morning then it would be ok for them to have some squeeling sing-song blare from loud speakers all the time.


18 posted on 12/08/2005 10:35:36 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Triggerhippie; Mad Dawg

On the "911 dispatcher sued over woman's violent death" thread I stated that cops are held to a different standard than we peasants are, getting a reaction from both of you. "More cop bashing."

Tell me, if a civilian tases a cop for any reason, let alone because the civilian wants the cop to buy a soda for him, do you suppose the civilian would face any less than felony assault on an officer, felony interference with a peace officer, and multiple other serious criminal charges? As opposed to simple assault?


19 posted on 12/08/2005 10:41:00 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: wideawake
Yup.

1997 -- Weight Problems: In January, Michigan state security officer Canute Findsen, 43, was shot to death in Lansing by fellow officer Virginia Rich, 51, but then he shot Rich to death just before he died; police believe Rich was upset that Findsen had made one comment too many about her being overweight.

20 posted on 12/08/2005 10:46:15 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: bassmaner

yes


21 posted on 12/08/2005 11:00:17 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: shooter223
Image hosted by Photobucket.com a Donut maybe... but a soda???
22 posted on 12/08/2005 11:03:18 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: shooter223

Note to self: Exchange taser bought as gift for wife for Christmas for nice fuzzy slippers.


23 posted on 12/08/2005 11:08:19 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm gonna boogie oogie woogie til I just can't boogie no more..............)
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To: coloradan

in Michigan,it is illegal for a private citizen to own or posess a taser,so there would be a charge for that also .............had one when I was FFL ..........had to sell it(to a local PD)when I didn't renew my license(when clintoon changed the rules)


24 posted on 12/08/2005 11:21:10 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: coloradan; All
This cop is obviously an ass, but by trying to label all LEOs similarly you are using collectivist(=piss poor) thinking.

BTW folks, it's easy to spot the dirtbag anti-cop/free Mumia crowd. They are first to bitch about the police and last to protect OR serve. Sure, there are people in the position that shouldn't be, just like in every profession.

If you feel that strongly, put some action behind your words and show the world what Law Enforcement should be like.

25 posted on 12/09/2005 8:11:34 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: shooter223
HAMTRAMCK, Mich. (AP) — An argument between two police officers over whether they should stop for a soft drink ended with the male officer using a Taser stun gun on his female partner, authorities say.

Doesn't everybody?

Am I wrong to do this?

26 posted on 12/09/2005 8:12:41 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Lying About My Sign-Up Date Since 1998)
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To: Triggerhippie
This cop is obviously an ass, but by trying to label all LEOs similarly you are using collectivist(=piss poor) thinking.

You missed my point. I'm not criticizing this cop in particular, but rather the policies that hold cops to a different standard than citizens. If a citizen tased a cop for any reason, let alone because the cop wouldn't buy a soda for him: he would be violently arrested, face multiple felony criminal charges, be jailed on million dollar bond, or without bond altogether.

Do you doubt this, Triggerhippie?

But here, a police officer tases another, and isn't taken down violently, isn't in jail, and faces one misdemeanor count of simple assault. (Not even assault against an officer!)

What does it say about the police department generally, and the DA's office, that the actions and criminal charges police officers face for conduct are so, so much lighter than a civilian would face, under the same circusmstances? That's my problem, not the fact that this particular cop is an ass.

If asking that question makes me a part of the "dirtbag anti-cop crowd," then so be it. Perhaps, just the same, you are part of authoritarian JBT-lickers "cops are never wrong" crowd.

27 posted on 12/09/2005 10:16:44 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: coloradan

This officer needs to be fired and prosecuted just like any other dirtbag. You are absolutely correct.

I realize that all cops aren't fit for the position they find themselves in. One of the first people hired from my academy was the worst violator of the Code of Ethics. She flat-backed her way through the academy, then did the same to get hired. She's probably a Captain by now. That does not mean, however, that all cops are tramps.

The cop is held to a different standard because he/she leads a different existance. Odd shifts, low pay, long hours and the chance of getting shot at. (It is no wonder that ex-military tend to become cops, they've already lived the lifestyle.) Think of this different treatment as a fringe benefit of the LEO being the "Sanitation Engineer" for human garbage.


28 posted on 12/09/2005 6:10:13 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Triggerhippie
This officer needs to be fired and prosecuted just like any other dirtbag. You are absolutely correct.

Trouble is, it isn't going to happen. The criminal charge is already there: simple assault. Period.

I realize that all cops aren't fit for the position they find themselves in. One of the first people hired from my academy was the worst violator of the Code of Ethics. She flat-backed her way through the academy, then did the same to get hired. She's probably a Captain by now. That does not mean, however, that all cops are tramps.

I don't dispute anything you have written. There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good citizens and bad citizens. Unfortunate, but no biggie.

The cop is held to a different standard because he/she leads a different existance. Odd shifts, low pay, long hours and the chance of getting shot at. (It is no wonder that ex-military tend to become cops, they've already lived the lifestyle.) Think of this different treatment as a fringe benefit of the LEO being the "Sanitation Engineer" for human garbage.

This is where I have a problem. First of all, all of us have the chance of getting shot at, because none of us lives in a zero-crime place. Additionally to that, police officers get to wear, or have to wear, ballistic armor that is provided to them at taxpayer expense, even in jurisdictions where possession of such is a felony for civilians(!) so they have a lot more sporting chance at surviving shootings than we do, as a whole. Furthermore, the mortality rate of police officers is comparable to landscapers, and much lower than many non-government lines of work, e.g. lumberjacks.

Worse than the actuarial aspect is the different treatment itself. Fringe benefits for government agents is the hallmark of tyrannies, not of free countries where "all men are created equal," there is "equal protection under the law," and "justice is blind." This is as opposed to historical situations, ominously returning, in which the King's Men could/can freely roam around and do things that would be harsly punished if mere peasants did them. Having different rules for us and them is one of the reasons we revolted against the British, and set up this country the way we did 200 years ago. And I think rightly so.

29 posted on 12/09/2005 9:08:23 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: coloradan
Disclosure: I'm a police academy graduate but have not worked in the position. My past associations, apparently, were not well chosen. (Now, I have friends who aren't criminals.)


Ahh, I see. The basis for your complaint is that, "it isn't fair."

That is true. Life isn't fair. Hell, I'm trained to be one and can't because of decisions made years before. That's not fair, but I'm over it.

As for you, if you want to be on the other side of the 'fairness equation', become a cop. The world is the way that it is. Accept that life isn't fair; It never has been and it never will be.

30 posted on 12/10/2005 7:15:10 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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