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Sunday night sinners outshine CBS' "Pope"
Reuters ^ | December 5, 2005 | Cynthia Littleton

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:03:04 PM PST by buckeyesrule

Sunday night sinners outshine CBS' "Pope"

Mon Dec 5, 2005 3:03 PM ET

By Cynthia Littleton

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The story of a man who is on a fast track to sainthood was no match for the sinners of "Desperate Housewives" and "Grey's Anatomy" on Sunday.

The first half of CBS' "Pope John Paul II" miniseries fizzled on Sunday, drawing only about 8.3 million viewers from 9:30-11:30 p.m., according to preliminary estimates from Nielsen Media Research.

CBS' lineup was thrown off its regular start times by a roughly half-hour football overrun at the start of primetime, but preliminary estimates indicate a weak turnout that barely registered on the adults 18-49 demo radar. CBS' numbers were only slightly better than the unimpressive showing ABC had on Thursday with its papal biopic "Have No Fear: The Life of Pope John Paul II."

ABC had no trouble drawing a crowd Sunday, however, with its 8-11 p.m. stalwarts "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (15.4 million, 4.2/10), "Housewives" (25.4 million, 11.0/24) and "Grey's Anatomy" (20.8 million, 9.4/22).

Fox was in a rerun zone for the night, led by the 8 p.m. encore of "The Simpsons" (9.4 million, 4.3/10). NBC was in its usual territory, highlighted by 9 p.m.'s "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (11.8 million, 3.4/7) and 10 p.m.'s "Crossing Jordan" (12.4 million, 3.6/8).

For the night, it was ABC all the way, as usual, with an average of 18.2 million viewers and 7.4/18 in adults 18-49.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alreuters; desparatehousewives; johnpaul; jpii; pope; trashtv
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I missed it to. But I had the TV off after watching way too much football.
1 posted on 12/05/2005 8:03:05 PM PST by buckeyesrule
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To: buckeyesrule

Aren't the Desparate Housewives methodist? So I geuss the Methodist won for once. LOL!


2 posted on 12/05/2005 8:04:27 PM PST by buckeyesrule (Go Bucks! Beat the Irish....again!!!!)
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To: buckeyesrule

A skewed rating, IMHO, because of the overtime of football. I tuned in late, but couldn't stay awake for the whole show. It seemed a good story of JPII as long as I saw it.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 8:08:48 PM PST by baseballmom
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Yes I saw the man who play's John Paul on fox news and the similarities were remarkable.


4 posted on 12/05/2005 8:10:05 PM PST by buckeyesrule (Go Bucks! Beat the Irish....again!!!!)
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To: buckeyesrule

John Voight as Pope? C'mon.


5 posted on 12/05/2005 8:11:18 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: baseballmom
It was a much better version than the one aired in ABC, despite having John Voight as the (old) pope. I watched both. The ABC movie was very PC and very much tilting to leftist ideas.

Some of them: (1) As if he became a priest because the Jewish girlfriend had to go to Palestine. (2) Pope was shown to make a big mistake by saying liberation theology is marxism... (I'm sure Pope was sad that the Bishop was killed, but it doesn't mean he regreted failing to back liberation theology like the movie wants us to believe). (3) At the end, Pope was shown to prefer Poland under communism...

The one in CBS is not finished; the 2nd part will air on Wednesday.

6 posted on 12/05/2005 8:14:04 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: baseballmom

Indeed - a VERY good story - much history re Nazi and Communist occupation of Poland. Started at 9:25 - 2nd half will be Wed at 9PM beginning when he was elected pope.


7 posted on 12/05/2005 8:20:16 PM PST by gramcam
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John Voight as Pope? C'mon.

From Midnight Cowboy to Pope! What a career arc!! (Seriously, no one knows Voight anymore except as being Angelina Jolie's father.)

8 posted on 12/05/2005 8:23:14 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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(Seriously, no one knows Voight anymore except as being Angelina Jolie's father.)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9 posted on 12/05/2005 8:27:51 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: buckeyesrule

I enjoyed the ABC version, thought the actor who played John Paul II did a commendable job. But it was the first time I ever heard that Karol Wotyla as a student had a Jewish girlfriend who ditched him to go to Palestine. Is this true?


10 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:17 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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I'm not catholic so I could care less about watching something about the pope. 'Specially when college basketball is on.


11 posted on 12/05/2005 8:45:59 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Ciexyz

I watched both and didn't enjoy the ABC version. See post # 6.


12 posted on 12/05/2005 8:54:30 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: buckeyesrule

OK, the casting was weak, but I really liked this CBS version. I really showed the Pope as a man molded during time of the Nazi occupation and the holocaust.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 9:01:54 PM PST by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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Didn't see the ABC version, but the CBS version seemed OK. The dialog was weak and predictable in a few places though.


14 posted on 12/05/2005 9:13:35 PM PST by posterchild
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To: krb

Ned Beaty was the one that had to squeel.


15 posted on 12/05/2005 9:28:17 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is death!)
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To: buckeyesrule

Why would I want to watch it?? Its from CBS, home of Dan Rather and the network that created the 'Reagans' movie of lies. If I had thought it would be a serious movie I might have thought about it.


16 posted on 12/05/2005 10:09:34 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: krb

Uh-uh. Voight was the one who had the purty lips. There's where Ang got 'em from. ;-)


17 posted on 12/05/2005 10:11:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: gramcam

Story was necessarily episodic, but the script was not great. I am sure that the late pope, a thespian, would have had some criticisms of the stilted dialogue.


18 posted on 12/05/2005 10:13:53 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: buckeyesrule
I watch "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition", but I refuse to watch Despicable Housewives.
19 posted on 12/05/2005 10:21:19 PM PST by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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I was glad I caught it, and I'm looking forward to the second half on Wednesday night. I thought it was very good. Positive in all aspects--showed Pope JP II to be extremely virtuous from his youth, while very much human. They didn't even edit out or mess up the Catholic prayers, etc.--my sons and I followed the Latin Mass in the show even!!

That said, I NEVER watch the major networks--I just happened to hear about this show, and that it was approved by our new Pope, so I wanted to see it. I didn't even know anyone else had done another show about him.

20 posted on 12/05/2005 10:23:02 PM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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