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CBS "Criminal Minds" portrays "Christian" would-be killer
CBS | 11/29/05 | CBS

Posted on 11/29/2005 8:07:26 PM PST by montag813

Did anyone else see the last 10 minutes or so of "Criminal Minds", the CBS drama with FBI profilers? I can't beleieve what I just saw. They portrayed a female student reciting the Lord's Prayer while dousing other students with kerosene in a tank and then lighting a flare, about to set them on fire. When confronted by an FBI agent, she sai "God chose me to do this. If I don't something terrible will happen". He shouts at her "God chose you? BE RATIONAL. Don't do this". She does not relent and he shoots her, apparently fatally.

I am dumbfounded at how utterly and disgustingly offensive this was to Christians. I still can't even believe what I just saw. Did anyone else see this?


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1 posted on 11/29/2005 8:07:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

What's CBS?


2 posted on 11/29/2005 8:09:22 PM PST by goodnesswins (We would have WON in Vietnam, without Dim interference.)
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To: montag813
Impossible to see it since I refuse to watch network TV because of crapola like this.
3 posted on 11/29/2005 8:09:51 PM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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To: montag813

Now ask yourself this. Would they dare do the same scene with a Muslim reciting the Koran before killing innocents? Of course not, even though that happens EVERY SINGLE DAY in the Middle East.


4 posted on 11/29/2005 8:10:08 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: montag813
She wasn't reciting the Lord's Prayer. She was saying Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Thus, her obsession with 3's.
5 posted on 11/29/2005 8:10:24 PM PST by hobson
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To: montag813

And at what time did you call CBS to complain?


6 posted on 11/29/2005 8:10:43 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: montag813

See B.S.? I don't watch teeeveee anymore. A mind is a terrible thing to waste (watching teeeeveeee).


7 posted on 11/29/2005 8:10:49 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azad)
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To: montag813

If they'd been reciting the koran, it would have at once been offensive to the PC and obligatory to everyone else.


8 posted on 11/29/2005 8:11:10 PM PST by nanomid
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To: hobson
She wasn't reciting the Lord's Prayer. She was saying Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Thus, her obsession with 3's.

I had just tuned in. Still pretty messed up.

9 posted on 11/29/2005 8:11:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

if you check, most of the new crime shows 9 times out of ten the bad guy will be an armed fores veteran, a gun owner, a Christian , or a "right wing fanic" whatever that is.

As soon as I noiced this trend I stopped watching all the shows.


10 posted on 11/29/2005 8:12:15 PM PST by sport
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To: GLDNGUN
And at what time did you call CBS to complain?

Just after my post, and emailed as well.

11 posted on 11/29/2005 8:12:32 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Plus, the kids were in an elevator not a tank. And, the agent shot her in the leg, it wasn't fatal.


12 posted on 11/29/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by hobson
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To: montag813
I am dumbfounded at how utterly and disgustingly offensive this was to Christians.

Andrea Yates was pretty disgusting and offensive as well....

13 posted on 11/29/2005 8:13:57 PM PST by jess35
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To: montag813

Mapes, Rather, Christian bashing, 60 Minutes, not one conservative in the news department -- it might be time to give up on CBS.


14 posted on 11/29/2005 8:14:03 PM PST by GOPJ (The cost of launching an attack on America is high in spite of Dems trying to undermine defense)
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To: montag813

Matter of fact I did. Was a pretty decent show. Especially with the actor from Dead Like Me. Need to lose the husband from Dharma and Greg, he just can't pull it off. Is really my second favorite show now, NUMB3ERS being the first. I suppose it was better than the Law and Order. Throwing off Amendments faster than the Framers could have written them, all for a good cause...


15 posted on 11/29/2005 8:15:11 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice,p.)
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To: hobson
Plus, the kids were in an elevator not a tank. And, the agent shot her in the leg, it wasn't fatal.

Thanks for filling in my blanks.

16 posted on 11/29/2005 8:15:25 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

You've jumped to conclusions based on the last 30 seconds of the show. tsk. tsk.


17 posted on 11/29/2005 8:15:51 PM PST by hobson
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To: billbears
Law and Order. Throwing off Amendments faster than the Framers could have written them, all for a good cause...

Lol, good one.

18 posted on 11/29/2005 8:16:40 PM PST by montag813
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To: GLDNGUN

You're almost right...
Check out http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/default.htm#attacks
where there's a list of Islamic attacks.
In the past 30 days, there was only one attack-free day: Nov. 3rd.
Other than that, there were no days where there were fewer than 2... and the list goes on and on and on and on and on.


19 posted on 11/29/2005 8:18:20 PM PST by Imnotalib
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To: GOPJ

"it might be time to give up on CBS"

I gave up on CBS the day Walter Cronkite tossed in his hat with the NVA.


20 posted on 11/29/2005 8:19:17 PM PST by Hoodat ( Silly Dems)
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To: hobson
You've jumped to conclusions based on the last 30 seconds of the show. tsk. tsk.

Despite my conclusions, the character did indeed "Father, Son and Holy Spirit", and asserts that "God chose me to do this" (to murder 3 people). Substitute a Muslim character for this woman and the writers would find themselves with a fatwa. Christians and Christian prayers and symbols are fair game as metaphors of unthinking evil.

21 posted on 11/29/2005 8:19:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Watch the show, in full.


22 posted on 11/29/2005 8:20:58 PM PST by hobson
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To: montag813
Only in Liberal Land is Christianity a mental illness and Islam a perfectly understandable reaction to the evils of the West.

Do yourself a favor and turn the Marxist propaganda off.

23 posted on 11/29/2005 8:22:37 PM PST by Reactionary (Liberals are the Lunatic Fringe of the Lunatic Fringe)
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To: montag813
I do not watch ABCNBCCBSPBCMSNBCCNNCNNHN so, no, I did not see it.

But, something to think about:

The TV media boasts when a show gets 20-30 million viewers as that is supposedly a very large amount. But, when you compare this to the population of, say, 290 million, only around 10% of the population is watching. Not really an impressive number.

30 years ago when 20-30 million people watched a show, that was up to 25-30% of the total population. Quite a difference.

That is why I laugh when I see people getting upset about something that happened on, say, MSNBC. They are lucky to get 1 million people watching a show. That would be 3/10's of 1% of the population, or 1,000,000 watching and 289,000,000 not watching.

Do not get me wrong: I do not underestimate what power the old media has left, but the numbers do show they are losing ground.

Now, if only there were Republicans in congress that are willing to go for the kill!!

24 posted on 11/29/2005 8:22:58 PM PST by technomage
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To: montag813

I watched the whole show and I never got the impression that her problem had anything to do with Christianity. She was obsessed with 3's and fire and her apartment had imagery of those two topics from the Old Testament as well as Greek mythology if I remember correctly.


25 posted on 11/29/2005 8:23:03 PM PST by aberaussie
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To: aberaussie
She was obsessed with 3's and fire and her apartment had imagery of those two topics from the Old Testament as well as Greek mythology if I remember correctly.

Yeah, I'm sure the writers' choice of Father, Son and Holy Spirit were just a coincidence.

26 posted on 11/29/2005 8:24:52 PM PST by montag813
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To: jess35

Nah....It's not like she killed anyone else's kids.....I mean c'mon....poor thing.....she needs just love and understanding.. no big deal......

*rolls eyes*


27 posted on 11/29/2005 8:26:20 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: montag813

I pretty much stopped watching television when they took Have Gun Will Travel and Amos n Andy off the air in 59...


28 posted on 11/29/2005 8:27:27 PM PST by socketsquirrel
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To: montag813

I know a number of shows have been taking a swipe at Christianity but this was not one of them.


29 posted on 11/29/2005 8:29:09 PM PST by hobson
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To: montag813

someone getting doused with fluid and lit on fire is the reason i gave up on television. regardless who did it. who wants to see such trash.


30 posted on 11/29/2005 8:30:58 PM PST by howlingmule
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To: hobson

so, she had obsessive compulsive disorder? I have a son with that, and I'd hate for people with OCD to start to be cast as killer maniacs.

Mrs VS


31 posted on 11/29/2005 8:31:52 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: hobson
the agent shot her in the leg, it wasn't fatal.

In real life the agent could get fired for that as it would be a $25 million jury payout if she ended up in a wheelchair. Cops in America these days are trained to kill. No wounding, no warning shot, fill target with lead. No wheelchairs is rule number one.

32 posted on 11/29/2005 8:34:37 PM PST by Reeses
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To: montag813

You expected differently from CBS? Earlier in the month, CSI went after Christians along with their hurricane mini-series several weeks ago.


33 posted on 11/29/2005 8:34:58 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: sport

"...right wing fanic" whatever that is. "

It's what you just listed, all rolled into one.


34 posted on 11/29/2005 8:35:20 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: montag813
I am dumbfounded at how utterly and disgustingly offensive this was to Christians.

Because Christians never commit murder, right?

The John Emil List Murders

John Emil List was a man of faith. He read the Bible daily, taught Sunday school and prayed often. He did everything he could to shelter his wife and three children within the Lutheran faith. Though he failed, it is the way he dealt with his failure for which he will be remembered.

...

John had originally considered killing himself, but he didn't want to leave his children destitute and alone with a dying and demented mother. And suicide was a sin which would bar him from Heaven. Backruptcy and welfare were options too humiliating to consider. He was certain it would drive his wife and children even further from a life of faith. The only way he could solve his problems AND insure heaven for his family was to kill them. He knew, from John 3:16, that God would forgive him.

35 posted on 11/29/2005 8:37:53 PM PST by ecurbh ()()A Festivus for the rest of us!()()
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To: hobson

And, she was crazy as a loon---The religious aspect was based on an obsessive-compulsive personality. Those who are so damn anxious to slam the show and network are being intellectually dishonest. It was the mental illness that drove the character not any religiosity. Come on posters, get a sliver of integrity.


36 posted on 11/29/2005 8:38:13 PM PST by middie
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To: VeritatisSplendor
It wasn't revealed until the last 10 minutes of the show that the "suspect" had a physiological disorder. The girl was actually portrayed as a sympathetic character. It was a good show.
37 posted on 11/29/2005 8:40:49 PM PST by hobson
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To: middie

Agreed! Thank you.


38 posted on 11/29/2005 8:42:07 PM PST by hobson
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To: montag813

The bigger question in the US is this....why is God not invoked to solve problems on US sitcoms. Here's what I mean. I travel to foreign counties, and during my down-time, I switch on the local channels to see what's the big issues. Familes, are familes, all over the world. But, sitcom families in other counties PRAY. Would you belive, when a family is in trouble, etc. they pary for devine intervension. When did you see that on Friends, Raymond, etc. etc. No character on US sitcom ever asks for help from God. Strange!!


39 posted on 11/29/2005 8:45:27 PM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: metmom

Then I suppose I must plead guilty to being one then.


40 posted on 11/29/2005 8:50:47 PM PST by sport
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To: aberaussie
I watched the whole show and I never got the impression that her problem had anything to do with Christianity. She was obsessed with 3's and fire and her apartment had imagery of those two topics from the Old Testament as well as Greek mythology if I remember correctly.

Then you saw the scene where the homo "finds himself", breaks up with his girlfriend, and who recounts to the sympathetic leading star of the show how she told him homosexuality is a sin and that he's going to hell. Hehe. Sly of them to slip that in with the nutty Christian killer.

41 posted on 11/29/2005 8:51:53 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Darwinism is a boil on the ass of Free Republic, Time to lance it.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

I will also note the nutty Christian killer was about to burn the sodomite to death. Doesn't take a genious to figure out this wasn't about the number 3.


42 posted on 11/29/2005 8:54:41 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Darwinism is a boil on the ass of Free Republic, Time to lance it.)
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To: montag813

I'm starting to think that it's in the Writer's Guild contract that if a network drama features an avowed Christian and a murder in the same show it must produce a cause-and-effect relationship between the two before the hour ends.


43 posted on 11/29/2005 9:08:28 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: technomage
30 years ago when 20-30 million people watched a show, that was up to 25-30% of the total population. Quite a difference.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that 30 years ago, there were only like 4 channels? Now we have 1,000.
44 posted on 11/29/2005 9:08:34 PM PST by Quick1
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To: middie

Read between the lines...


45 posted on 11/29/2005 9:16:14 PM PST by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: Quick1
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that 30 years ago, there were only like 4 channels? Now we have 1,000.

You are quite correct but it does not invalidate my point: Even the largest market share shows are only seen by maybe 10-15% of the entire population of our country. That is good.

46 posted on 11/29/2005 9:26:02 PM PST by technomage
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To: ecurbh
Because Christians never commit murder, right?

No, wrong.

What does that have to do with the fact that this FReeper condemns this horrible behavior?

47 posted on 11/29/2005 9:51:40 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: sport

I've noticed that too.......and Boston Legal has gotten bad with their PC, tree hugging crap. Had to turn it off last time it was on. D*amned shame, could have been a good show.

I don't watch the Criminal Minds show, but doesn't surprise me. These producers have really gone overboard with promoting the tree hugging, anti-Christian, tree huggers.



48 posted on 11/29/2005 9:55:33 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: billbears

I like Numbers also... I watch Criminal Minds. Plus NCIS... I confess, I watch the Gilmore Girls... I just overlook the liberal crap...


49 posted on 11/29/2005 9:56:59 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: montag813

It's hardly new for psychos in TV and movies to be driven by God. They even had 'em on Babylon 5.

The reason is simple: it's more dramatic. Take the extreme: what's more shocking... finding out that the serieal killer was the creepy Goth guy down the block... or kindly Paster Smith?


50 posted on 11/29/2005 10:00:25 PM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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