Posted on 11/28/2005 3:28:47 AM PST by advance_copy
President Bush will make stops in Arizona and Texas this week to address an issue that has divided some members of his own Republican Party -- illegal immigration.
After spending the holiday weekend with family at his Crawford ranch, the president will visit Tucson, Arizona, on Monday, and El Paso, Texas, on Tuesday.
A senior administration official said that the president, in a speech on immigration, will focus on three areas: border security, enforcement and a temporary worker program.
The official said the president will talk about "additional resources and the use of technology to secure the border," and will discuss it in terms of national security and the economy.
Bush also is expected to raise the issue of interior enforcement. The administration official said that includes "interior repatriation," or returning illegal immigrants from Mexico to the interior of the country instead of on the other side of the border.
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Might as well post before the knee jerk anti-business rants get posted.
Agreed. But alas, this is exactly what is going to get pushed. It's going to require that average citizens like you and I make a lot of noise about it - letters to our Senators, Congressman, and Governors. The current administration cannot be trusted on this issue. They've been resisting reform for five years. And when they do bring it up, it's always some form of amnesty.
Glad to see he's focused on it. Now do something about it. Any country that can't control its border isn't really a country, at least not a sovereign one.
bush is not much better than bozo the clown on this issue, speeches ad infinitum not withstanding. now having labeled him for exactly what he is on this issue, its important to know why he has to act like vincente foxs kept woman on this matter. the dems have developed a couple of native populations that just wont be productive, no matter what opportunities they are given, hence the govt feels to prop up social security among other pork programs, that it needs to import cheap, quiet labor. question is, how long does this type of labor stay quiet and in the shadows? we clearly see they are coming out of their shells. cheap labor does not solve anything, it only creates problems down the road. this is the reason techonology has its place in the scheme of things, to overcome the problems associated with cheap labor. americans just dont get it.
Yours was the first I saw on this thread. Congrats.
----He needs to start focusing on it.
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How to report an illegal alien:
Contact Information:
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Field Offices in California:
Los Angeles: Investigations Unit 213-830-5590
San Diego: Enforcement Office 619-557-6011
San Francisco: Enforcement Office 415-844-5347
Bush has always been focused on this issue.
His focus has been throwing open the borders to illegals so ...
1. Hispanics will become the electoral base of the Bush family political dynasty.
2. His globalist cheap labor economic agenda.
Business cannot thrive over the long run in a system in which laws are not respected. The Government's failure to live up to it's own charted has introduced anarchy into our system. Evidence of things being turned upside down abound - everything from illegal aliens getting cheaper college tuitions, to cities refusing to report criminals, to local governments symbolically billing to the federal government to cover their increased cost of social services. Rule of law comes first. Selling out that principle for a buck is the beginning of the end.
Whew you are putting on the tin foil early sam.
Bush to focus on illegal immigration, ROFLOL! Hahaha, that's a good one from CNN.
Neither can it survive with excessive govt. regulation or taxation, but that is always is left out on these threads, with the vast majority of people on these threads implying that business is inherently evil for doing such things as growing food or building buildings.
What a transparent liar you are Dane !
But then again, career criminals are liars who are full of self-justifying alibis.
That's very true, but over-regulation and taxation are a completely separate issue. In reality, immigration doesn't involve any new laws or regulation - just enforcement of what's already on the books.
You should know sammy.
Actually not really, lessen the regulatory and tax burden and the welfare mentality(plus add in the 40 million workers that have been taken out of the American workforce since 1973 due to abortion), and businesses wouldn't be looking to cut corners.
seems like most of the regulatory and/or tax burden on business is still there with illegals - unless they're being paid under-the-table, of course.
Uh that's my point, reduce the tax and regulatory burden on businesses, but it seems that most people on these threads get channeled by hillary and rant about those evil businesses.
LOL! I read and replied to your post on the other thread!
What a bunch! They aint got a clue..
Now thats one thing that I hate. They come here, they learn ENGLISH!
So, in other words stated, "business is justified to use illegal aliens, since there is so much gum't regulation". Is that a proper restatement?
I own and operate 4 businesses. I write 18 checks per month, to 18 people. They all speak english, and were native born Americans. Some of them are employed as sub-contractors. They operate heavy machinery to clear land, and build roads. They hire laborers and skilled workers, to complete their tasks. I require them to all be english speaking, legally documented workers, if they are foreign born. We check.
Some businesses are willing accomplices to breaking immigration laws. Others are not. I earn enough, without helping illegal entrants.
Any businessman/woman who uses illegal aliends will, just as willingly, find other ways to cheat, lie, and steal. I guess you will justify that, too.
And pawn shops shouldn't have to see IDs. Regulatory burden, doncha know.
It's that type of hyperbole that get's me, a businessman/woman who does good things such as grow food or build buildings is automatically evil because he/she finds hard working labor, let the stones start throwing.
You know Dane. Like the rest of us, I am against illegals coming here and working, but I am for them coming here legally and working. No problem with that, never have had any nor will I ever have a problem with it. But expect them to try and clear out the illegals BEFORE they offer any amnesty-which is immpossible I would suspect. I also expect them to require ALL immigrants to learn ENGLISH BEFORE they enter the country.
These people havent a clue on here. Look, in ten years or so, there will be 2 or 3 retired people being supported by 1 "ONE" worker. The debt will be at about 20 TRILLION dollars when the IOUs come due from the theft of the Social Security trust.
And these anti business people on here wonder why some polititions want to increase immigration?
And I bet you these were the same people who were against Bush's social security reform, also.
Are you now employing, or have you ever hired, an illegal alien?
The only hyperbole being spouted is the justification you give for breaking this law. Would you be equally disposed to allow for people to break the law, and smoke marijuana?
Re; Immigration.
Dear Mr. Chairman.
Having tried to contact several members of Congress in the past on immigration reform in the past I now write to you on my idea on how to make reforms that will work and will allow those that wish to come to the USA to work.
1. Change the L1 Intra Company transfer to allow foreign nationals to come and set up business here in the USA without the requirement that their business must maintain at least 50% of their business overseas. As it is set up now it is impossible for a small Mom and Pop business to come and start a business here in the USA.
2. Allow them to transfer key officers to run their business here.
Example; A Mexican National wants to come to the USA to start up a roofing business, he needs to transfer Four key people to help him run the business here in the USA.
3. After the proper background searches, Pedro gets the go ahead to start his business and gets his L1 visa. He applies for the proper Federal ID business number and sets up his business. He transfers his key people.
4. As a requirement of being a foreign national doing business in the USA he and each of his people must register with the local police dept, he and each of his people get a ID swipe card which will be kept with them at all times. They also will be required to go into the local police dept once a month and check in with that Dept.
5. The local police dept gets involved like this. Lets say a patrol car drives by a construction/work site that has such workers working there. The policemen decide to check to see if they have the ID swipe cards proving these people are working here legally. They find that there are 3 people there illegally. Pedro gets to pay a 6 thousand dollar per person fine, has the honor of paying for their detention and as well as the cost of deportation back to their country of origin. The 18 thousand dollar total fine will be divided up as 80% to the local arresting dept and the federal controlling authority.
That’s the idea in a brief. I believe this to be better than a guest worker program and gets the local authorities involved by making it appealing to check workers out.
I look forth to hearing from you on this!
Are you now employing, or have you ever hired, an illegal alien?
The only hyperbole being spouted is the justification you give for breaking this law. Would you be equally disposed to allow for people to break the law, and smoke marijuana?
The answer to your 2 above questions is no, and BTW, there is a big difference between a farmer or contractor and a dopehead.
Talk is cheap!
Let's wait and see if anything actually happens.
I am glad to see you, so eloquently, reveal your inherent hypocricy. You have a double standard for everything.
To post another restatement of your views, "farmers and contractors who break laws they don't like, are different from a person who wishes to break a law, and toke a bowl".
It seems the person aiding an illegal entrant, is doing far more harm to the general welfare of Americans. Would you not agree with that statement?
Whats up with your abortion comment? IMO, even if no one was aborted, this situation would still be a problem. Assuming these aborted babies are American citizens, they as well would be effected since cheap labor is the issue, not the amount of workers available. Bush wants these jobs filled by aliens only if there is not an American worker "willing" to do the job, not because we don't have enough to fill these positions.
Bush's input on immigration is about as viable as Kerry's input on Iraq, or Viet Nam...
Is that like a lock box? People receiving SS today, are getting it from those working today.
And my aunt's my uncle. I hope i'm wrong, but I doubt anything will come of this.
Has anyone come up with a number as the illegal alien tax?
shoot first. Invaders should be repelled.
Without low skill-low pay foreign labor these growth areas would not-will not be able to provide the infrastructure & goods/services needed by these growing populations.
With all due respect, your attempt to ignore the obvious. You're laughable to justify the illegal use of illegal entrants.
I live among apple and peach orchards. Several times a year, I can visit WalMart and see black Haitians, who are there for the harvests. I've met some of them. They are here on work visas, and stay for a few months, when needed. They take home enough in a couple of months, to support their EXTENDED familes for a year, at home. They work here legally, work like dogs pulling a sled, and go home satisfied with their lives.
I grew up in a Navy family. My dad pulled his 20. We lived from California to Cuba (Gtmo). I speak spanish, along with my other studies. I have a good ear, as well, to hear about how folk arrived here. I listen to people talking to their friends, and nobody thinks to guard themselves, when speaking their language.
I was born in Wilmington, NC. My moms family were from Jones County, mostly poor farmers. I worked in tobacco fields. I met some migrants, when I was a child. My uncle ran a little store. I remember pulling ice cold cokes out of a red water cooler, and listening to the strange lingo, of teh foreigners. I remember how polite they were, and how they always paid their way. He didn't worry about shoplifters. They didn't have frequent knife/gun fights in the camps.
I know backwaters. I know people. Liars and cheats are liars and cheats. If someone is here illegally, he will rape your daughter, and steal your gold. You can only expect it, when there is no defense. I don't only imagine... we hear of it every day.
I had a job every summer. I worked after school. I was just like most of my friends. I had no Nintendo.
I'm sick of listening to the President explain a plan that no one wants. Secure our borders already. How hard is that to plan?
The cheap labor lobby checks in. All one needs to know is this an amnesty. A reward for breaking US law
These amnestied Mexicans will NOT BE RETURNING HOME AFTER THEIR SIX YEARS ARE UP! They'll have anchor babies etc to stake their claim here. How about all the illegal aliens from Central America, Latin America, China, Pakistan? Will we finally enforce the law and boot them under the GWBush plan? because there is no mention of them. Only of Mexicans
Yea! President Bush is focusing on the Illegal Immigration issue alright, He is only going to backdoor the amnesty for these criminals and The Rupublicans in the congress are going to do the same.
After hearing about the plan to ease immigration into the U.S. that was hinted on by a couple of Republicans I don't have much faith in the Congress or the President on this issue.
Dane if we ignore your posts will you go away? Hell if we don't ignore your posts will you go away? Your stance on illegal immigration shows where your loyalties lie. Perhaps you should go there?
Those that hire illegals need to be arrested, charged, jailed, and have their assets confiscated under the RICO act. Do that and the illegals will deport themselves.
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