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Cornyn-Kyl immigration bill is comprehensive[don't hold your breath]
San Diego Union ^ | NOV.27, 2005 | SEN. JOHN CORNYN

Posted on 11/27/2005 10:18:39 AM PST by radar101

In your Nov. 17 (San Diego UNION)editorial, "No half-baked bills," you lament the lack of a comprehensive immigration bill "that does everything that needs to be done to reform a broken immigration system." Yet the five requirements identified are all contained in the Comprehensive Enforcement and Immigration Reform Act (S1438) that Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Arizona, and I introduced earlier this year. For example, the Cornyn-Kyl bill contains:

Increases in Border Patrol agents. The bill authorizes an additional 10,000 Border Patrol agents over the next five years, along with additional detention beds, facilities and vehicles. In short, the border security provisions will enable the U.S. government to regain control over the border.

Additional work-site enforcement agents. The bill authorizes an additional 10,000 investigative agents dedicated to work-site enforcement and ensuring that all employers operate on a level playing field.

Highly punitive and easily enforceable employer sanctions. The Cornyn-Kyl bill would require all employers to participate in an electronic verification system that would provide instantaneous confirmation to the employer of the worker's status. All employers must be held accountable, but first the government must provide verification tools to employers.

Guest workers for employers who need the manpower. The Cornyn-Kyl bill creates a new, workable and secure temporary worker visa.

Tamper-proof identification card. The Cornyn-Kyl bill requires the Department of Homeland Security to issue machine-readable, biometric identification cards to all foreign workers.

Finally, the editorial described the Cornyn-Kyl bill as neither realistic nor workable because it would require illegal aliens – once within a five-year transition period – to depart and reenter the country legally. I disagree. Illegal aliens live outside the protection of the law; as a result, hundreds die each year trying to cross the border, and many here suffer abuse and discrimination in the workplace. Our proposal would not force them to abandon their dream of living in America, but it would ask them to achieve that goal like all other immigrants: by entering the country legally.

SEN. JOHN CORNYN R-Texas Chairman Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship Washington, D.C.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borders; bovineexcrement; cornyn; culture; immigrantlist; immigration; kyl; language; s1438
The problem is that the Federal Government is VERY arbitrary and capricious about ENFORCING ANY LAW.

The Clinton's did damage to and stole articles from the White House when GW was elected. PROSECUTION?--NO! SAndy Berger steals top secret papers. PROSECUTION? --NO! As revealed this past week a Smuggler has to bring in a magic double digit number of illegals BEFORE any prosecution is contemplated.

1 posted on 11/27/2005 10:18:40 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

So you don't like this bill? What is the solution?


2 posted on 11/27/2005 10:22:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (To be a "Peace Now Democrat" is to be Pro Mass Murder/Rape/Torture)
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To: radar101

Bill is BS...does nothing to stop the anchor baby loop hole.


3 posted on 11/27/2005 10:23:18 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: MNJohnnie

To start: Enforce existing laws.


4 posted on 11/27/2005 10:27:29 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101
To start: Enforce existing laws.

Such as?

5 posted on 11/27/2005 10:38:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (To be a "Peace Now Democrat" is to be Pro Mass Murder/Rape/Torture)
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To: radar101; AZRepublican; flashbunny; Stellar Dendrite; kellynla; ARCADIA; DumpsterDiver; ...
This is a good start!
6 posted on 11/27/2005 10:40:42 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: ncountylee

That's pending in a separate bill.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 10:42:32 AM PST by Terpfen (Libby should hire Phoenix Wright.)
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To: radar101

It's a start.

No blanket amnesty for those illegals currently in the US.

Stop the anchor baby nonsense.


8 posted on 11/27/2005 10:52:58 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Impeach them all and defend the border.


9 posted on 11/27/2005 10:53:05 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Impeach them all, starting at the top.)
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Take a look at the True Enforcement Bill, at http://www.fairus.org. This is the first immigration reform bill that FAIR, a well known immigration reform organization, is supporting.

It allows CITIZENS to sue businesses for hiring illegals, and deals with the anchor baby problem. It isn't perfect, but is the best thus far.


10 posted on 11/27/2005 11:31:04 AM PST by bordergal
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To: radar101

this bill is total BS and those pushing it
know this. My question is why are there
people pushing this bill when it is total BS?


11 posted on 11/27/2005 1:37:00 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: no-to-illegals

What's BS about it?


12 posted on 11/27/2005 3:21:22 PM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Agreed.


13 posted on 11/27/2005 3:24:25 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: Tarantulas

This is an amnesty bill, and therein is the BS.
This bill is BS.

Another bunch of blather, no substance, amnesty,
no teeth, we need all the illegals we can muster
for those poor employers who can find employees
who are American citizens......BS

I don't buy into BS, so I'm not buying into this
Bill


14 posted on 11/27/2005 3:56:46 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: no-to-illegals

can find
should be
can't find American Citizens
I'll be happy to discuss this with you if you
can prove to me .... this bill isn't.......
a back-door amnesty.


15 posted on 11/27/2005 3:59:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: bordergal

---"Take a look at the True Enforcement Bill, at http://www.fairus.org."

The True Enforcement Bill is simple and focused, I like it. I like Tancredo's too. It ends Anchor Babies as well, but that provision is one thing that would cause problems for it.

The only way any of these bills will work is if there is no assumption the "Guest Worker" will be honest and play by the rules. They will not, so any program better provide for lots of enforcement officers.


16 posted on 11/27/2005 4:13:04 PM PST by moehoward
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To: no-to-illegals
Go away Retread.

How many times have you been here before and banned?

17 posted on 11/27/2005 4:14:48 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (If Tom Tancredo is on the GOP ticket in 2008, We Will Have Another President Clinton in 2009.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


18 posted on 11/27/2005 4:34:49 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

That is the most rational approach right now!


19 posted on 11/27/2005 4:35:34 PM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Impeach them all and defend the border.

BTTT

20 posted on 11/27/2005 4:36:11 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: radar101
Guest workers for employers who need the manpower. The Cornyn-Kyl bill creates a new, workable and secure temporary worker visa.

Oh sure. The same crowd that can't find an illegal to deport is going to create a "temporary" worker visa. Sorry, no deal. Enforce the law as it is now, and quit trying to softsoap us with more lies.

21 posted on 11/27/2005 4:38:30 PM PST by Pelham
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To: MNJohnnie

Don't the Quislings know what the existing law is?


22 posted on 11/27/2005 4:39:21 PM PST by Pelham
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Impeach them all and defend the border.

BTTT

We don't need any more "new" laws. The federal government won't even enforce the ones we have because they're too busy bending over backwards to protect slave labor.

23 posted on 11/27/2005 5:25:26 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: radar101

Unless I see immediate MASS DEPORTATIONS OF ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS, I will not believe a word of it.


24 posted on 11/27/2005 5:43:38 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: COEXERJ145

I should report you...
for I've never been here as a member before,
although I lurked for six or seven years....

I know you from previous posts....
and I know you seek to cause trouble....

Again, I should report you, but I'll wait.


25 posted on 11/27/2005 8:18:42 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: moehoward
Cornyn, Tancredo, Hayworth, Hunter, etc...need to get together and put forward ONE bill that covers these issues and has some TEETH in it...IMMEDIATELY!!!
Too many differing versions flying around, everyone wants to be "noticed" but what will actually get done if thay can't agree on one version.
26 posted on 11/27/2005 8:35:18 PM PST by FlashBack (When I grow up I wanna be a coWboy.)
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To: no-to-illegals
although I lurked for six or seven years....

We're glad to hear you speak out now! Welcome!

27 posted on 11/27/2005 8:40:31 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: FlashBack

Problem is, the weakest, most convoluted and unenforceable plan is the only one most will support because VERY few -Tancredo and maybe a couple others- really want to end illegal immigration and reform legal immigration.


28 posted on 11/28/2005 12:18:49 AM PST by moehoward
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To: radar101

"All employers must be held accountable, but first the government must provide verification tools to employers."

Nice little Catch 22 there. What about deportation? School, medical, service cost? What about anchor babies, welfare, WIC, section 8 housing and HUD funding illegals into homes?

None of these issues are addressed. Enforce the laws on the books. Congress is empowered to defend this nation from invasion, peaceful, hostile, or otherwise.


29 posted on 11/28/2005 6:01:35 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: gubamyster


Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


30 posted on 11/28/2005 8:05:27 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: radar101
S1438 PDF is another shamnesty. Take a look at Title VI with the "deferred mandatory departure".

Enforce current immigration laws that are on the books.

31 posted on 11/28/2005 8:27:49 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: radar101; All

Cornyn again. He, under the guidance of the Whitehouse, plans on erasing our borders to implement the North American Union.

Here's the bill he has before the Senate:


Senate Bill 2941.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2941:

Highlights:

SEC. 3. PURPOSES.

The purposes of the Fund shall be--

(1) to promote economic and infrastructure integration among Canada, Mexico, and the United States;

(2) to promote education and economic development in Mexico; and

(3) to reduce the wealth gap between Mexico and Canada, and between Mexico and the United States.

More:

SEC. 4. PROJECTS FUNDED.

(a) IN GENERAL- The Fund shall make grants for projects to carry out the purposes described in section 3, including projects--

(1) to construct roads in Mexico to facilitate trade between Mexico and Canada, and Mexico and the United States;

(2) to develop and implement post-secondary education programs in Mexico;

(3) to install telecommunications technologies throughout Mexico; and

(4) to construct other infrastructure that will carry out such purposes.

More:

SEC. 5. CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FUND.

(a) IN GENERAL- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall, subject to the limitation in subsection (b), require the Governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to contribute to the Fund.


32 posted on 11/28/2005 11:55:21 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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