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| November 21, 2oo5
| Theodore Dalrymple
Posted on 11/24/2005 2:15:00 PM PST by UnklGene
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:15:00 PM PST
by
UnklGene
To: UnklGene
All these problems arise from the Dutch policy of tolerance toward drugs, pornography, euthanasia, and all the rest of the culture of death and nihilism. Once you have tolerated it for a period of years, it's very hard to get rid of it.
We noticed this general atmosphere in Holland at least 30 years ago, when we visited Amsterdam. So it's had a long time to grow deep roots.
Maybe it would have been better not to let this happen in the first place.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:27:51 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: UnklGene
And Oh how the europeans were lauded by the left for their progressive drug policies. looks like it is coming back to haunt them.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:28:31 PM PST
by
commonasdirt
(Reading DU so you won't hafta)
To: UnklGene
Interesting...nothing at all in the debate about the legitimate powers of government or whether or not Pot is actually harmful... a very odd country.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:28:59 PM PST
by
gondramB
To: UnklGene
Apparently it hasn't even occurred to the Dutch that they should lock up their criminals. If their criminals were in jail, they wouldn't be on the street drawing welfare and committing crimes.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:33:37 PM PST
by
DJ Taylor
(Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
To: gondramB
Yup. There's a good reason China cracked down on Opium use. Turns all your worker bees into parasites.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:42:33 PM PST
by
Fenris6
(3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
To: commonasdirt
Haunt them? The article recognizes the status quo is a good thing. Just don't scare the horses, and we'll live with being unemployed and have a lower crime rate.
7
posted on
11/24/2005 2:43:53 PM PST
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: Fenris6
You'd have loved American prohibition. Opium, booze, grass, it's all the same. Right?
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:45:01 PM PST
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: DJ Taylor; Wolfie
Apparently it hasn't even occurred to the Dutch that they should lock up their criminals.Yep, that's the trick. Spend $k a month, to save a grand... Sound fiscal gumt policy, I'd say! /sarcasm
Smoking pot is criminal, because of people like you! Go drink another 12 pack...
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:46:50 PM PST
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: gcruse
Study some Chineese history before you play that card.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:47:15 PM PST
by
Fenris6
(3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
To: Fenris6
Study a little pharmacology before equating marijuana to opium.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:49:34 PM PST
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: pageonetoo
"Smoking pot is criminal, because of people like you! Go drink another 12 pack..." It also appears that all of our criminals haven't been locked up as yet either, but we're working on it.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:53:06 PM PST
by
DJ Taylor
(Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
To: UnklGene
Perhaps if the government provided free pot to known liberals, they would shut up.
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posted on
11/24/2005 2:53:08 PM PST
by
Fielding
( "OTHERS HAVE DIED FOR MY FREEDOM. NOW THIS IS MY MARK." "Cpl. Jeffrey B. Starr")
To: DJ Taylor
It also appears that all of our criminals haven't been locked up as yet either, but we're working on it.Apparently you think there is something evil about wanting marijuana legal. Please educate me, with facts, that it is any worse than a bottle of scotch, or Limbaughs use of oxycontin, and should not be allowed for personal consumption (medical or recreational).
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posted on
11/24/2005 3:01:04 PM PST
by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: gcruse
I didn't equate opium to marijuana.
15
posted on
11/24/2005 3:03:11 PM PST
by
Fenris6
(3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
To: pageonetoo
Please educate me, with facts, that it is any worse than a bottle of scotch, or Limbaughs use of oxycontin, and should not be allowed for personal consumption (medical or recreational).There's no way to track abuse. Show me a cheap way [like breath-a-lyzer] for cops to determine if you are under the influence. Until then, its stupid to legalize the drug.
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posted on
11/24/2005 3:04:55 PM PST
by
Fenris6
(3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
To: DJ Taylor
Apparently it hasn't even occurred to the Dutch that they should lock up their criminals. And it apparently doesn't occur to Americans, that, for all their "love of freedom", they still don't give people the freedom to smoke pot.
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posted on
11/24/2005 3:07:13 PM PST
by
mc6809e
To: Fenris6
There's no way to track abuse. Show me a cheap way [like breath-a-lyzer] for cops to determine if you are under the influence. Until then, its stupid to legalize the drug. There'd probably be fewer accidents with pot if people switched to that from alcohol.
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posted on
11/24/2005 3:09:33 PM PST
by
mc6809e
To: mc6809e
And it apparently doesn't occur to Americans, that, for all their "love of freedom", they still don't give people the freedom to smoke pot Or crack. Or cocaine.
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posted on
11/24/2005 3:09:54 PM PST
by
Fenris6
(3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
To: UnklGene
The problem is, if they are making money from growing, they aren't unemployed and shouldn't be getting money from their socialist nanny-government.
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posted on
11/24/2005 3:14:20 PM PST
by
Bones75
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