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New U.S. DD(X) destroyer sails ahead
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Jim Wolf

Posted on 11/23/2005 3:10:05 PM PST by Pharmboy


The deckhouse of an experimental naval destroyer, the DD
(X), pictured here at China Lake, California in an undated photo.
The Pentagon has opted to move ahead with the new multibillion-
dollar destroyer being co-developed by Northrop Grumman Corp. and
General Dynamics, Navy officials said on Wednesday.
(Handout/Reuters)

The Pentagon will order an initial eight highly-automated DD(X) destroyers being developed by Northrop Grumman Corp. (NYSE:NOC - news) and General Dynamics (NYSE:GD - news) as the centerpiece of the U.S. Navy's 21st century fleet, a defense official said on Wednesday.

Ending speculation the ship might be killed, the Defense Department cleared a plan to let both Los Angeles-based Northrop and General Dynamics, Falls Church, Virginia, each go ahead with detailed design work, the Pentagon said.

The chief U.S. weapons buyer, Kenneth Krieg, also approved "low rate initial production" of eight ships after a meeting on Tuesday of the Defense Acquisition Board, which considers major weapons systems, said the defense official who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak about the matter.

He estimated the value of the eight ships at $20 billion.

The DD(X) will have substantially lower radar and acoustic "signatures" -- making it harder for an enemy to find and hit -- and be highly automated to cut crew size by more than half compared with current destroyer levels.

It will incorporate new technologies that also would be used in a new aircraft carrier and a new cruiser. The Navy hopes the first DD(X) will be delivered in 2012.

Cheryl Irwin, a Pentagon spokeswoman, confirmed that Krieg had cleared the program to enter a big-money phase known as "system development and demonstration." But she said she had no information on the number of ships to be built.

No construction contracts would be awarded until a further session of the acquisition board, the defense official said, citing a memorandum from Krieg that was not made public.

TWIN BUILDING PROJECTS

Navy officials said Krieg had cleared a Navy request to start the acquisition program with a "dual lead ship" strategy using fiscal 2007 funds.

According to this Northrop and General Dynamics each will build a ship of its own to meet requirements set by the Pentagon and the Navy, Navy spokesman Lt. John Gay said. On completion, the Navy will recommend whether to continue splitting the construction or go with one of the two yards.

Such a decision may be made in 2008 or 2009, said the defense official. Each of the two initial ships to be built -- one by each yard -- is projected to cost $3.3 billion. The Navy hopes to drive down the price of future ships to $2.2 billion.

Krieg gave the go-ahead after a "Milestone B" review -- the decision on whether to let DD(X) advance despite expected delays or cuts in other big-ticket weapons programs as the United States copes with war costs, a growing deficit and hurricane relief, among other headaches.

Key senators had blocked the Navy's earlier-proposed "winner-take-all" approach to building DD(X), which it said would cost less, on the ground it likely would knock the losing company out of the business of building surface warships.

The Pentagon's DD(X) decision "takes us through a critical threshold," said Randy Belote, a spokesman for Northrop, which would build its version of the ship at its Pascagoula, Mississippi, shipyard.

General Dynamics, which would build at its Bath Iron Works yard in Bath, Maine, had no immediate comment.

Northrop shares fell 16 cents on Wednesday to close at $56.49 on the New York Stock Exchange. General Dynamics's shares rose 2 cents to $116.16.


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KEYWORDS: ddx; defense; navy; warships
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To: Pharmboy

I am very certain rail guns don't spout flames - other than that looks like a Civil War Ear ironclad.


41 posted on 11/23/2005 3:59:51 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: RandallFlagg

Japan did that in WW2. The look on our faces wasn't pretty.


42 posted on 11/23/2005 4:01:06 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Polybius

Or the updated version - Galactica.


43 posted on 11/23/2005 4:01:51 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: IonImplantGuru
Snagged a piece of the Macon, South of Monterey on a fishing trip once.
44 posted on 11/23/2005 4:03:56 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Ear=Era. alas spell checker.....


45 posted on 11/23/2005 4:05:27 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: SmithL

The article headline is a bit misleading. The technology of the IJN I-400 submarine class, impressive as it was (even more so since the Allies didn't even know about them until after the war), was more along the lines of large aircraft-carrying submarine vice "giant underwater aircraft carrier."


46 posted on 11/23/2005 4:13:30 PM PST by Captain Rhino (If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense!)
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To: Certain_Doom
It may yet happen:

It's a proposed airship called the "Walrus" and the Army is looking at the feasibility of such a ship. It would be over a football field in length as per the graphic above. Check it out at Gizmag.com

47 posted on 11/23/2005 4:16:05 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: IonImplantGuru

Bubbleheads get the nookie, eh?


48 posted on 11/23/2005 4:19:10 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Snagged a piece of the Macon, South of Monterey on a fishing trip once.

At what depth? My understanding is MBA unmanned submersibles had photographed one of Macon's Sparrowhawks (more or less intact!) on the bottom amidst the wreckage but IIRC, that was several 1,000's of feet down.

Here's one of Macon's F9Cs 'hooking up' after a scouting sortie:

49 posted on 11/23/2005 4:27:38 PM PST by IonImplantGuru ("Me? You talking to me? You talkin' to me? Then [BLEEP]... Well, I'm the only one here.")
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To: azcap

Interesting strategery. Mebbe you should see HR at the Pentagon...


50 posted on 11/23/2005 4:29:19 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Certain_Doom
Right here...
51 posted on 11/23/2005 4:30:17 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Pharmboy
Bubbleheads get the nookie, eh?

Well, d'oh!
You don't think I was in just for the hazardous duty pay, do you?

52 posted on 11/23/2005 4:31:57 PM PST by IonImplantGuru ("Me? You talking to me? You talkin' to me? Then [BLEEP]... Well, I'm the only one here.")
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To: PAR35

Saw one of them in that "Sky Captain" movie last year. Only it was British and Captained by Angela Jolie.


53 posted on 11/23/2005 4:33:46 PM PST by rbg81
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To: IonImplantGuru

A first cousin of mine was a bubblehead and, come to think of it, his wife is a cutie. And, you dudes have an awful lotta time to think about it...


54 posted on 11/23/2005 4:34:47 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: IonImplantGuru; sasquatch
It's not that deep I don't recall exactly. My best buddy was working on the Point Lobos when MBARI made that trip. I am sure video is around I'll ping him for info.
55 posted on 11/23/2005 4:35:27 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Pharmboy

Jeepers, it looks like an ironclad.


56 posted on 11/23/2005 5:03:06 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: IonImplantGuru
With that girl, I'd volunteer for sub service.... is that a double entendre?
57 posted on 11/23/2005 5:06:14 PM PST by Porterville (beware the nature-nazis)
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To: tet68
I don't think they'd have any trouble getting them quite a bit below that if they ordered a thousand of them...

Or how about making these available for sale to the general public (US citizens only). :D

58 posted on 11/23/2005 5:11:12 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Pharmboy

Shhhhhh!

Not so loud, or everyone will be volunteering for Sub Duty.


59 posted on 11/23/2005 5:13:12 PM PST by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: Pharmboy

will it turn China into a lake? that is the question


60 posted on 11/23/2005 5:15:39 PM PST by Cinnamon
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