Posted on 11/23/2005 2:13:47 PM PST by Dan Evans
May not change the price, but would have a very strong effect on the politics of conservation and ecology if the main understanding of oil changes from a finite unrenewable resource to a nearly infinite resource.
Not to mention playing havoc with evolutionary and geologic theories about the earth.
I think the politics of conservation has already accounted for it and changed from "We're running out of oil" to "CO2 emmissions will destroy the planet".
It could mean exactly that. Right now conventional geologists prospect only in areas where there is sedimentary rock. If there is oil in the preCambrian basement, there are many new areas to prospect and (hopefully) find new oil.
Here's your indication this was written by a clueless moron (par for the course at WingNutDaily.)
1) The accepted biogenic theory of petroleum has NOTHING to do with dead "Dinosaurs" or "forests."
2) Sedimentary rock can be bedrock.
The world would be an infinitely better place if people that had no understanding of the subject would simply STFU.
Just think of all the environmental and tax legislation that would suddenly become meaningless and moot if it were determined that oil is inorganic and, hence, not fossil fuel.
Yeah - very interesting! Fossil source of oil is disclaimed. In fact, abiotic oil replenishes itself and down deep, deeper than most drilling, there is an endless supply - everywhere on earth. Soviet Russia initiated the research during the Cold War.
If true...
One great thing about FR is that it's so large we have actual members who have actual experience in real life; we do have a lot of petroleum engineers, oil field workers, etc.
A lot of the people whose entire knowledge of petroleum consists of spending 5 minutes reading a couple crappy articles like this WND one then go around spouting off about all the oil fields around the world that are mysteriously refilling...
And I've seen our FReeper oil workers bring them back to reality on what's really happening. It's simply not true. There are a tiny handful of small fields that seem to have refilled from other nearby fields, and it's very, very rare.
It's very tough to argue with people who simply believe what they want to believe, though. And who actually literally think the standard theory says petroleum comes from "dinosaurs."
Name ONE which does not co-exist with a biotic source. Just ONE.
The truth of the matter is that all of these so-called "bedrock" finds are in bedrock overlaid with sediment basins. Further there is no common geologic definition of "bedrock". Its a nebulous term defining a layer of rock which does not specify how the rock was formed. Some areas have limestone layers which are called "bedrock".
But as you mention, the cost of recovery is what sets the price. There is no shortage until the price you are willing to pay is lower than the price the driller wants. May more, and they will find it. Pay more and they will use newer technology to get more out of fields once thought depleted.
We are still picking the low hanging fruit. "Declaring" that it really isn't a fruit at all but rather rather a modified leaf form really does nothing to alter the fact that when you pick all the low hanging ones, you need to find another tree or get a ladder.
The conspiracy theorists should have a field day with this one.
When something dies, the carnivores get theirs, and then the scavengers get theirs, and then the flies and maggots get theirs, and after that all that's left is bones. I've never yet seen anything die and then lie there and turn into oil.
Oil comes from dead microscopic plankton (diatoms, algae, etc.) from either ancient oceans or lakes.
Has nothing to do with dead land animals.
Sort of like the liberal argument changing from "there are to many people are starving" to "we have to many people that are obese (fat)".
You've got some catching up to do. You migh start with the original article on this thread.
But then shows like Coast to Coast AM would have nothing to talk about anymore.
ROFLMAO. My entire point is the original article was written by a complete idiot who literally thinks the standard biogenic theory of oil is that it comes from dead dinosaurs.
You're the one that has catching up to do. I suggest a source less worthless than WingNutDaily. Getting your scientific info from there is like getting marriage counseling from OJ Simpson.
"It's very tough to argue with people who simply believe what they want to believe, though. And who actually literally think the standard theory says petroleum comes from "dinosaurs."
I am not a petroleum engineer nor a oil field worker.
If it is true per Soviet Russia's research that the source for oil in not fossil, then we have a whole new ball of wax.
Needless to say, the oily wealthy (e.g., Rochefellers, et al) from the petroleum industry would discredit this theory about a self-replenishing abiotic source. Would this alter the emissions factor?
No matter what, I don't believe that cows and cattle, and roaming Buffalo burp and fart enough to affect "global warming." However, the foul emissions from politicians definitely have an adverse affect on the earth's well being.
Velikovsky is a rather famous kook.
Regarding why oil is where it is, the Earth is a very old place.
The vast majority of oil formed on the sea floor in the first place, so it shouldn't be a surprise that a lot of oil is drilled in the oceans.
Regarding oil in deserts, well, an awful lot of the land on earth was once covered with shallow seas or lakes; continents move around, rise and fall, etc.
Heck, you can find lots of limestone in deserts. We know for certain that limestone forms SLOWLY in shallow seas. We can observe limestone forming right now in shallow, warm seas around the world.
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