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New questions about who outed Valerie [The Couple Violated The CIA Regulations Concerning Reporters]
WorldNetDaily ^ | Nov. 23, 2005 | Not Cited

Posted on 11/23/2005 7:00:36 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: jennyjenny
I'm on broadband and it took forever to load for some reason.

Same here, I am on 5mbps cox and it loads real slow

61 posted on 11/23/2005 11:28:43 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: GarySpFc

I like Jack personally, but his credibility took a hit with the Flight 800 kook stuff and the failed cloumns on how the Slepian killer was innocent. I hope he is right with this one.


62 posted on 11/23/2005 11:34:02 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: conservativecorner

bump to "out" the outters themselves!


63 posted on 11/23/2005 11:34:48 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: conservativecorner
From Vanity Fair:
In early May, Wilson and Plame attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, at which Wilson spoke about Iraq; one of the other panelists was the New York Times journalist Nicholas Kristof. Over breakfast the next morning with Kristof and his wife, Wilson told about his trip to Niger and said Kristof could write about it, but not name him.

I've got to disagree with Cashill. The Vanity Fair writer seems quite clearly to be referring to Kristof's wife, not Wilson's.

64 posted on 11/23/2005 11:59:18 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: conservativecorner

Perhaps you are interested?

ABC's Good Morning American did a marvelous show this morning...from one of our nuclear subs, a great story about our Navy.

The interesting part?

Tuesday morning they will do a show about the CIA.

Have you got a ping list of any type?


65 posted on 11/23/2005 12:18:33 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Wristpin
I'm betting that Christopher Wolf, Joe's Attorney, best friend and NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR was at that July 4th gathering.

A discussion (Plot/Plan) among friends can be cloathed as falling within attorney/client privilege.

I would guess that Christopher Wolf (Joe's attorney) has been negotiating these "pro bono" jobs that Joe has had.

I'd also guess that he has taken care of Joe's divorces, asset changeovers etc.. In other words, he knew Valerie as Plame and Wilson.

Wolf said he was the first to tell Joe about Novak's article....by waving him over from his front porch.

But that doesn't make a lot of sense. A friend of Joe's said he had approached Novak and "prodded" Novak about Wilson.

And Joe had talked to Novak between the 8th and 10th of July. He knew the article was coming.

Joe's phone should have been ringing off the hook with calls from Dems and newspeople on the morning that his attorney said he "was the first to tell Joe that Valerie was in the article."

That's what's wrong with this picture.

66 posted on 11/23/2005 12:32:37 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: DJtex
Fitzgerald was very specific that "Libby was the first who passed it from reporter to reporter and lied about it". He also said that Libby was assumed "innocent until found guilty". It looks like Woodward has blown the time frame.

So here's a guy, out of a job, who now has to spend years in court and possibly do jail time because a "Special Prosecutor" PERCEIVED what Libby said was a lie.

67 posted on 11/23/2005 12:39:31 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: beckett
Just because Valerie is not mentioned at breakfast, it doesn't mean she wasn't there. Yes, it may have been worded that carefully so Valerie deosn't show. In other words, it could be a "half truth".

So, where was Valerie that morning??

68 posted on 11/23/2005 12:45:08 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: george wythe
Oh, but he's too pretty to go to jail with regular prisoner's.
69 posted on 11/23/2005 12:51:32 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: Sacajaweau
More investigation is required. My only point is that, from a grammatical standpoint, the author of those words did not say Plame was at the breakfast. He/she wrote about "Kristof and his wife" being there, not Plame.

You may be right that she was there and the author elided that fact. Fitzgerald needs to call the parties to the grand jury to find out.

70 posted on 11/23/2005 12:54:54 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Wristpin
I think if my name was Walter Stinkus I'd change it to Bill Smith or Bob Jones or anything but Walter Stinkus.
71 posted on 11/23/2005 1:14:24 PM PST by Ditter
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To: george wythe

" Has Fitzgerald missed most of the story?"

It's looking more and more likely.
And I'll bet anything, he still doesn't see the whole picture.

Fitzgerald filed a brief last week in which he said :

“The charges arose from an investigation concerning alleged leaks to reporters of classified information
regarding the employment of a purported CIA official by one or more government officials.”

Fitzgerald now calls Plame a " purported CIA official."
Shouldn't that have been the first thing he discovered ?

Fitzgerald appears to have limited himself to the Wilson template ( which Wilson basically said he gave him in their meeting 2 years ago ) of looking for the leak from " one or more government officials."
How would Fitzgerald know how many were involved , if any, before he even began his investigation ?
Wilson was never called before the grand jury ( or so he says.)
Woodward said he was surprised that Fitzgerald never called him-as he had the WH phone logs for years.


72 posted on 11/23/2005 1:25:48 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: KC_Conspirator
I like Jack personally, but his credibility took a hit with the Flight 800 kook stuff and the failed cloumns on how the Slepian killer was innocent. I hope he is right with this one.

Yes, his credibility did take a hit. However, I was invited to a presentation where James Sanders and his wife told their story. In the question and answer session one gentleman stood up and said, "I am a retired TWA 747 captain, and there are 38 additional retired 747 captains in this room. We want it on the record that the governments version of what brought down TWA 800 is totally wrong. TWA 800 was not brought down by an explosion in the center fuel tank...no way."
73 posted on 11/23/2005 2:01:52 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Clara Lou; A.A. Cunningham

It took my DSL less than a second to load the entire page, photo included.

Thanks for posting the photo A.A. Cunningham. It's the best resolution of that photo I've seen.


74 posted on 11/23/2005 2:11:05 PM PST by Carling (http://www.marriedadults.com/howarddeanscreamaudio141jq.mp3)
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To: beckett

Beckett,

You may be right, you may be wrong. The paragraph does not reveal whether Valerie Plame was present or not. How many times do you take your wife to an overnight event then exclude her from breakfast?

But the story by Kristof stating what he learned from "someone at the meeting" is terribly intriuging because some facts of his story allegedly came from this breakfast. Since he already mentioned Wislon as being present, if it was Wilson who was the "someone at the meeting", he would have just used his name.

If you deconstruct the following story by Kristof you get the sense that it absolutely was Valerie Plame who was the "someone at the meeting". Who else within the CIA, who was present at that meeting, would Kristof be comfortable revealing that Wilson, and maybe his wife also, was talking about this mission to a reporter.

Again, Kristof said:

Meeting Kristof column May 5, 2003: "I'm told by a person involved in the Niger caper that more than a year ago the vice president's office asked for an investigation of the uranium deal, so a former U.S. ambassador to Africa was dispatched to Niger. In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the C.I.A. and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged."

God...would I love it if a special prosecutor could get to the bottom of this side of the imbroglio. I would love to see some presstitutes raked over the coals for their slimy, dishonest behavior.


PresidentFelon


75 posted on 11/23/2005 3:28:29 PM PST by PresidentFelon (Reuters Reporter Adam Entous beats his mother)
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To: Carling

It should be good at 461.26 KB (472330 bytes).


76 posted on 11/23/2005 3:32:11 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

Is the thread about the pic or about y-o-u ?


77 posted on 11/23/2005 3:43:28 PM PST by railsplitter (with extreme prejudice- destroy the enemy... foreign and domestic)
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To: Clara Lou
I have DSL and it came up immediately on mine. Maybe you have some kind of problem.
78 posted on 11/23/2005 3:48:08 PM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: railsplitter

Sounds like you're looking for an argument. Not interested. Happy Thanksgiving.


79 posted on 11/23/2005 3:53:46 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: fish hawk

See post #13. The problem was the hosting website plus a lot of people trying to download a large file at the same time.


80 posted on 11/23/2005 3:56:07 PM PST by Clara Lou
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