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Has any one read or heard if the latest school shooting in Tennessee has been associated with the shooter taking psychiatric drugs?
1 posted on 11/16/2005 5:37:36 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Don't know but I suspect that the feeding of psychiactric drugs to students can't be good. My ex always thought Columbine was caused by this.


2 posted on 11/16/2005 5:44:42 AM PST by bkepley
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To: neverdem

If someone decides to seek out psychological counseling, they can expect to be sent to a psychiatrist and handed a prescription. I'm not saying that anti-depressants aren't a valuable treatment option, but rather they are the first if not the only method many, many psychology professionals use regardless of how depressed a patient might be or why. And, unfortunately, the side effects of these drugs are often worse than the "disease" they attempt to treat.


3 posted on 11/16/2005 5:46:10 AM PST by GBA (I believe Congressman Weldon! MSM do your job.)
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To: neverdem
No, I haven't heard that yet, but I do know that the best buddy of my son killed himself a year ago this week, after his parents put him on anti-depressants!
4 posted on 11/16/2005 5:46:56 AM PST by ladiesview61
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To: neverdem
in the hamlet of Porthaethwy, on an island off the coast of Wales

Isn't this where The Prisioner was filmed? An ironic place for a psychiatrist to live for sure.

5 posted on 11/16/2005 6:12:33 AM PST by Ford4000
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6 posted on 11/16/2005 6:13:26 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
"Fees for an expert witness cannot be made contingent on the outcome of a case, but Healy is a repeat player in these legal actions, and future opportunities depend on past performance and a credible, predictable testimony," Dr. James Coyne of the University of Pennsylvania wrote in a recent article in The American Journal of Bioethics: "Lessons in Conflict of Interest: The Construction of the Martyrdom of David Healy and the Dilemma of Bioethics."

Funny - if you look up that paper, what it makes clear is that, not only is Healy making money off of testifying against SSRI's in court, he has a vested interest in trashing SSRI's because he's working for a drug company that makes competing anti-depressants (reboxetine), and has taken on a role actively promoting reboxetine, despite the fact that his own work shows it to be no more effective than SSRI's.

It's nice to think of the lone cowboy, courageously standing up against the mob, but it's a myth. Healy's no lone cowboy - he's just another hired gun.

7 posted on 11/16/2005 6:23:18 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: neverdem

1. This isn't anything new, though the mass media and the medical establishment are acting very surprised about these revelations. Twenty-five years ago when the only anti-depressants most psychiatrists had in their pharmacopia were MAO inhibitors and tricyclics, we were warned that sometimes giving an anti-depressant to a depressed patient could cause him to commit suicide. It isn't just some magic about the SSRIs like Prozac that makes this happen.
2. I know John Davis, mentioned in this article, and he used to admit the same thing in private situations.


8 posted on 11/16/2005 6:26:27 AM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: neverdem

Read Peter Breggin on the same subject - a psychiatrist practicing in Baltimore who has gone against pharmaceutical psychiatry for years and written a number of books on the subject.


9 posted on 11/16/2005 6:53:51 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: neverdem

My brother is a psychiatrist, and a big-time advocate of anti-depressants and other mood-altering drugs. I understand that psychiatrists feel too overwhelmed by the workload for traditional analysis, but I can't believe that drugs are a great alternative in a society in which drug abuse is such a problem. Maybe we ought to train more psychiatrists, psychologists and therapists, if we can get the AMA, APA, DEA, CDC, etc. to go along.


10 posted on 11/16/2005 6:54:06 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: neverdem
My late wife was prescribed SSRI's after her brain surgery for epilepsy. Turns out that the SSRI (Zoloft) has a side effect of casuing mania/depression episodes in something like .4% of people. Of course my wife fell into that. She would have a manic atttack followed 6 to twelve hours later by absolutely crushing suicidal depression.

So to counteract the mania they put her on ativan. Which causes crushing depression in some small percentage of people. After presenting our case to her psychiatrist he agreed that the drugs were causing the problems. and took her off the drugs.

So, yes these drugs do cause suicidal depression in some people.

Eventually she was put on a non-SSRI type drug Cymbalta that worked well for her. There is no reason why the patient should have to diagnose the problem. That's what the doctors are for. But they don't. They just prescribe more drugs.

My wife died of a seizure while in the hospital after one of these manic attacks. Turns out that her anti-seizure drugs were also mood stabilizers and as we adjusted her epilepsy drugs it unbalanced her cymbalta so she had a manic attack. A simple adjust of the cymbalta was called for but she died before that could be done.

12 posted on 11/16/2005 8:36:17 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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