Update on Swedish Pastor's Trial For Hate Speech-- Exclusive!

Alliance Defense Fund e-mail update | 11/15/05 | Alan Sears, President of ADF

[Nachum]

When there is no God, it leaves a vacuum to filled by something else...

[Meadow Muffin]

I should be amazed, but I am not...that pole to hell is getting very slippery...thanks for the update, let us know what happens.

[Unam Sanctam]

The issue is not the truth or falsity of what the Pastor said, but freedom of speech, expression and religion. It sounds like they were putting religious beliefs on trial. Absolutely disgusting... And by the way, Sweden disestablished its state church a few years ago, and in any event, the government has no right to dictate religious belief.

[wideawake]

Green should drop the translation and pick up the Hebrew and Greek text - the original is far harsher regarding sodomy than the NIV is.

The word Paul uses is so graphic and unequivocal that it leaves no doubt.

That sissy prosecutor would be left no alternative but to voice his real problem with Christianity - which is that it is Jewish in origin.

[sine_nomine]

I think WF Buckley said, "When there is no God, any orifice will do." Saturday Night Live's concept of humor addresses that epigram very well.

[AnAmericanMother]

The word Paul uses is so graphic and unequivocal that it leaves no doubt.

arsenokoitai? And you're right, it doesn't leave much room for argument (but liberals have tried, believe me.)

[dukeman]

Using original Hebrew and Greek would be an EXCELLENT idea!

[wideawake]

Precisely. A truly literal translation of that word is not permitted on network TV and is certainly not found in any vernacular Bible.

That's a very readable font, BTW - which one is it?

[dukeman]

arsenokoitai

Is there a way for you to translate the Greek without using a lot of #!*^ symbols and/or getting this thread deleted?

[massgopguy]

Ruth Bader Ginsberg will be watching this.

[aimhigh]

He repeatedly mocked the Word of God.

Doesn't that qualify as hate speech?

[AnAmericanMother]

Well, I'll have to euphemise a bit, but the word literally means one who "lies with" other men, except "lies with" is a bit more colloquial and pungent.

[AnAmericanMother]

The font face is Symbol, more or less SOP for the Greek Bible website.

I agree that it's very readable, but it doesn't have accents or breathing marks, which can be confusing. I do wish I could find a font with the appropriate diacritical marks.

[mdmathis6]

You mean kind of like the "f" word?

[wideawake]

It would literally translate as the course street language version of "those who penetrate the anuses of others".

[AnAmericanMother]

pretty much yes.

[subterfuge]

"All people of faith need to continue to be in prayer for this decision – as three out of four people in Sweden (per a poll) believe that Pastor Green should be sent to prison for simply preaching the uncensored Gospel."

I have a hard time believing that even the socialists in Sweden think like this. Am I naive?

[A. Pole]

The prosecutor made amazing arguments. He repeatedly mocked the Word of God. He ridiculed Biblical texts on homosexual behavior. The prosecutor asked Pastor Green several times what version of the Bible he was using. When Pastor Green politely replied that he used the New International Version, the prosecutor replied that Pastor Green was using a ‘bad translation’ and to ‘get a new Bible’ – one that does not question homosexual behavior.

Tolerance bump!

[subterfuge]

"It would literally translate as the course street language version of "those who penetrate the anuses of others".

Now see, thats the kind of plain talk that is needed. Gay men put their privates into each others' fecal matter. There. I said it.