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(LA) Times Plans New Op-Ed Lineup( drops Robert Scheer and Ramirez)
LATIMES ^ | 11/11/05 | J. Michael Kennedy and Rong-Gong Lin II

Posted on 11/11/2005 6:33:35 AM PST by Pikamax

By J. Michael Kennedy and Rong-Gong Lin II Times Staff Writers

November 11, 2005

In a major shake-up of its editorial pages, the Los Angeles Times announced Thursday that it was discontinuing one of its most liberal columnists as well as its conservative editorial cartoonist.

Editorial Page Editor Andrés Martinez said that Robert Scheer, a Times reporter for 17 years before he began writing a column on the Op-Ed pages in 1993, will be dropped. Cartoonist Michael Ramirez, The Times' cartoonist since 1997, will leave the paper at the end of the year and will not be replaced.

Martinez, who was recently appointed to his position, said the Op-Ed page will rely more on commissioned artwork and illustrations, as well as stand-alone graphics.

"The opinion pages are the newspaper's town square," he said in a statement. "Our readers expect us to publish all points of view and the broadest range of opinion — from those of our editorial board and columnists to those of our readers and Op-Ed contributors. And we intend to do exactly that."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: latimes; liberalmedia; michaelramirez; robertscheer

1 posted on 11/11/2005 6:33:36 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
#@!$%$#@

I love Ramirez's work. It's the LAT's loss. I'm sure he'll get snapped up immediately.

2 posted on 11/11/2005 6:34:47 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Pikamax

Scheer finally returning to Moscow? He'll notice some changes since he was last home.


3 posted on 11/11/2005 6:35:33 AM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: mewzilla

Same here. His political cartoons were good antidote to the often very liberal opinion page.


4 posted on 11/11/2005 6:37:06 AM PST by Smogger
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To: mewzilla

Ramirez is a local Memphis man I think. He does Paul Shanklin's art work.


5 posted on 11/11/2005 6:37:30 AM PST by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Scheer...one of the very worst.


6 posted on 11/11/2005 6:37:41 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Smogger
An example of his work...


7 posted on 11/11/2005 6:39:53 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ncountylee

The good thing about Scheer going is that the DSM Register will not be print his diatribes for awhile. I am certain he will join some syndication group. He may be gone from the LAT but I bet he won't be gone from a lot of papers for long.


8 posted on 11/11/2005 6:41:54 AM PST by babaloo
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To: Pikamax

They're dropping Michael Ramirez?

DUMB! DUMB! DUMB!

Michael Ramirez is one of the finest political cartoonist if not the finest in America.

Of course he is a conservative cartoonist...
no wonder they're dropping him!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


9 posted on 11/11/2005 6:44:08 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Pikamax

Experiencing "Scheer" joy at this news....LOL


10 posted on 11/11/2005 6:45:32 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: Pikamax
Oh, boo hoo, I just loved Scheer!

NOT

11 posted on 11/11/2005 6:56:24 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Pikamax

LOL, the Los Angeles Times didn't have a twinge of concience when Conrad did his best to butcher the right for decades. Now Ramirez is gone. What a disgraceful rag!

Sheer wasn't let go... he simply fell off the left side of the universe. This guy was ending his hate-hate relationship with sanity. It was only a matter of time.

I had hoped the LA Times would make some moves to improve itself. It's now clear it's moves will only cause further disgrace to those who opt to buy the 'tissue' of record.

Don't sqeeze this stuff, the puss of anti-Americanism will drown you.


12 posted on 11/11/2005 7:10:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Pikamax

LAT dropping Scheer? Wow, could they be getting it?


13 posted on 11/11/2005 7:14:58 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Pikamax
Notice it says that Cartoonist Ramirez will be leaving the paper but doesn't say that about Scheer. It only says Scheer will be dropped, (from the OP-ED page) not from the paper. ???
14 posted on 11/11/2005 7:41:22 AM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Pikamax

Ramirez was the only breath of fresh air to be found on the LAT editorial page. The way he enraged liberals, judging from their letters of hate for him, says he was directly on target. Lately the Times has been posting catoons by the rabid leftist Tom Toles of the Wash. Post. So much for "balance".


15 posted on 11/11/2005 7:52:57 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

Make that "cartoons". Fat early morning fingers....


16 posted on 11/11/2005 7:56:04 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: DoughtyOne
Sheer wasn't let go... he simply fell off the left side of the universe. This guy was ending his hate-hate relationship with sanity. It was only a matter of time.

Scheer probably worked out some sweet deal with a syndication group and asked to be let go so he could make more money (capitalism for me, but not for thee). I'll bet the LAT doesn't fail to print a single one of his columns - they'll just pick them up from the syndicate and write a check to them instead of to Scheer.

17 posted on 11/11/2005 7:57:18 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Well, Scheer getting the boot at the LAT is a bit of good news... Unfortunately, he still holds a professorship at my Alma Mater, the University of Southern California and still teaches "journalism" there. Even though I love the University... not one penny of mine will go to the school until he is gone - and I've made that known every time I get a solicitation from the Alumni Assoication.


18 posted on 11/11/2005 8:03:29 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Pikamax

I wonder if liberals will rally to the cause of Ramirez, demanding that the LAT needs more diversity in their editorial page. [/sarcasm]


19 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:36 AM PST by wildbill
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To: CFC__VRWC

You may be right, but what had surprised me in the past was that 'any' U.S. newspaper would print what he was writing.

Just how many people did they really think would be buying that drivel? 99% of the public must have thought the Times a whacked out mouthpiece for socialist moonbeams. And they would have been right.


20 posted on 11/11/2005 9:02:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: kellynla; DoughtyOne; All
from laobserved.com (highly good read every morning)

In an email to friends and supporters, soon-to-be-ex Times columnist Robert Scheer blames Publisher Jeffrey M. Johnson for his ouster from the op-ed page:

On Friday I was fired as a columnist by the publisher of the Los Angeles Times, where I have worked for thirty years. The publisher Jeff Johnson, who has offered not a word of explanation to me, has privately told people that he hated every word that I wrote. I assume that mostly refers to my exposing the lies used by President Bush to justify the invasion of Iraq. Fortunately sixty percent of Americans now get the point but only after tens of thousand of Americans and Iraqis have been killed and maimed as the carnage spirals out of control. My only regret is that my pen was not sharper and my words tougher.

21 posted on 11/11/2005 9:44:43 AM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: BurbankKarl

Thanks for the link.
I'll have to check it out.


22 posted on 11/11/2005 9:50:21 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: BurbankKarl
"...but only after tens of thousand of Americans and Iraqis have been killed and maimed..."

And who has been doing the maiming and killing Mr. Sheer? Iraqi freedom fighers?

Why didn't you speak up about the maiming and killing prior to 2002? If you did, why do you oppose our trying to stop that now?

How long would the maiming and killing under Saddam Hussein have been okay with you, forever? How long would it have been okay for female children to be barred from schooling? How long would the rapes have been okay. How long would the filling of mass graves have been okay?

As long as the maiming and killing, inhumane treatment of subjects and things of that nature are being done by the likes of Hussein, Pol Pot, the North Vietnamese, Chairman Mao and let's not forget "terrorist butchers in Iraq and around the world", everything is a-okay with you and your fellow travelers. I have never seen you condemn one suicide bombing or terrorist act? I will admit that may partially be my fault, as I didn't consider your tripe to be worthy of reading.

If the U.S. steps in and tries to stop any of this, all hell breaks loose in leftist fantasy central. Then it's back to decrying the faults of the west.

...I was fired as a columnist...

The crusty old whack-job uses the term columnist rather broadly, to be sure.

23 posted on 11/11/2005 10:50:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: fish hawk
It only says Scheer will be dropped, (from the OP-ED page) not from the paper. ???

Scheer married a chief editor's daughter, thereby assuring himself his column inches. With all the management shakeups at the LAT, his protector may (or may not) have survived.

There is certainly no good reason for retaining the Stalinist.

24 posted on 11/11/2005 10:57:47 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Pikamax

One great move and one horrible move. Ramirez is unbelievable. Great, great cartoonist and very funny. Shame, but not surprising considering the Times.


25 posted on 11/11/2005 5:03:25 PM PST by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Pikamax

Andres, you get a C for effort.


26 posted on 11/11/2005 5:06:07 PM PST by RichInOC (Why can't they print the Times on two-ply? At least it'd be good for something.)
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To: mewzilla

I haven't seen this one.

It's great.

I am going to bookmark it and use it at some appropriate threads.


27 posted on 11/12/2005 12:05:55 AM PST by FairOpinion (CA Props: We may have lost the battle, but the war is not over. Support reform in CA.)
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To: Pikamax
the Los Angeles Times announced Thursday that it was discontinuing one of
its most liberal columnists as well as its conservative editorial cartoonist.


I've got to give The Los Angeles Times for wisely following one of
Richard Nixon's rules: when we wack one of theirs, we've got to whack
one of our own.
This is a step forward for the LA Times...ususally they simply dump on
conservatives alone.

(e.g., when Nixon would nudge the IRS to investigate an adversary, he'd make
sure a similar IRS inquiry was made of an ally)
28 posted on 11/12/2005 12:31:02 AM PST by VOA
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To: Pikamax

A good background on Leftwing Millionaire Robert Scheer can be found here:
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=938

(thanks to David "Radical Son" Horowitz and Frontpage Mag.)


29 posted on 11/12/2005 12:34:56 AM PST by VOA
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To: Pikamax
Ramirez is the best but he will be syndicated so he will still be available. Scheer is a slimy liberal.
30 posted on 11/12/2005 10:23:28 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Pikamax

Robert Scheer is still writing? Who knew? Guess his status as his wife's husband only went so far.

The firing of Ramirez, who overall I find just so-so (but who plainly is not as liberal as the LATimes, by far; it's just that he frequently puts out that "don't hate me because I can be LIBERAL SOMETIMES TOO, SEE?" cartoon), is just "cover fire" for the firing of Scheer.


31 posted on 11/16/2005 10:20:43 AM PST by pogo101
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