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State of Emergency Begins in France
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Posted on 11/09/2005 6:15:57 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2
PARIS Rioters defied a state of emergency that took effect Wednesday, as they looted and burned two superstores, set fire to a newspaper office and paralyzed France's second-largest city's subway system with a firebomb.
However, the number of car burnings a barometer for the unrest dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam. Overnight Tuesday to Wednesday, youths torched 617 vehicles, down from 1,173 the previous night, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. Incidents were reported in 116 towns, down from 226 the night before.
President Jacques Chirac announced extraordinary security measures, which began Wednesday and are valid for a 12-day state of emergency, clearing the way for curfews after nearly two weeks of rioting that began in neglected and impoverished suburban neighborhoods with large Muslim communities.
The French capital and its suburbs, as well as more than 30 other cities, were covered by the state-of-emergency decree, according to a government bulletin published Wednesday. It empowers officials to put troublemakers under house arrest, ban or limit the movement of people and vehicles, confiscate weapons and close public spaces where gangs gather.
Towns included on the list stretched from Nice on the Mediterranean to Strasbourg on the German border and Le Havre on the English Channel, giving an indication of how widespread the unrest has become.
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KEYWORDS: 1848redux; france; insurgency; intifada; jihad; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising; yoots
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To: HHKrepublican_2
man these frogs are stupid. so if you leave a couple hundred cars alone but burn box centers, newspapers etc, and then paraylze the transportation system of the city, frogs think this is progress. in all sincerety, france is really pathetic, like watching a worm squirm and die. put it out of its misery already.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:18:48 AM PST
by
son of caesar
(son of caesar)
To: HHKrepublican_2
...set fire to a newspaper office
Now they've gone to far!
3
posted on
11/09/2005 6:18:56 AM PST
by
txroadhawg
("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
To: HHKrepublican_2
what interests me is that there have been so few casualties---the mujahadeen are holding back, waiting for orders and organizational support from Al Qaida...
4
posted on
11/09/2005 6:19:04 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
(.)
To: HHKrepublican_2
I guess we'll have to wait a few more days, to know if the riots are dying out.
5
posted on
11/09/2005 6:19:18 AM PST
by
syriacus
(The cold-heartedness of libs, toward the Iraqis's attempts for a better life, takes my breath away.)
To: HHKrepublican_2
However, the number of car burnings a barometer for the unrest dropped sharply...
It could also mean they are running out of easy targets on the cars.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:19:36 AM PST
by
Ingtar
(Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
To: HHKrepublican_2
"...looted and burned two superstores, set fire to a newspaper office and paralyzed France's second-largest city's subway system with a firebomb."
" the number of car burnings a barometer for the unrest dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam..."
Could they whistle past the graveyard a little louder, please?
7
posted on
11/09/2005 6:19:52 AM PST
by
OpusatFR
To: txroadhawg
Too bad it was not the New Yourk Slimes.
8
posted on
11/09/2005 6:20:35 AM PST
by
Piquaboy
(22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
To: HHKrepublican_2
Message to the French government -
WHAT THE EFFING HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT OF YOUR ARSES, YOUR FACES OUT OF PLATES OF FOIE GRAS AND SHOOT THESE BLIGHTERS!
Thank you.
Regards, Ivan
9
posted on
11/09/2005 6:20:37 AM PST
by
MadIvan
(You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
To: son of caesar
france is really pathetic, like watching a worm squirm and die
Excellent imagery. And so, so true.
To: Mamzelle
what interests me is that there have been so few casualties That certainly smacks of organization -- they are intentionally limiting things to property damage (with very few exceptions). I think maybe even the French would have the stomach for a fight if it was to protect people from being hurt and killed. If it's just property damage, we'll, c'est la vie.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:21:03 AM PST
by
kevkrom
(Thank you... I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. (And try the veal!))
To: HHKrepublican_2
"...they looted and burned two superstores, set fire to a
newspaper office and paralyzed France's second-largest
city's subway system with a firebomb..." "...the movement lost steam..."
Right.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:21:05 AM PST
by
Sabatier
To: HHKrepublican_2
ahh..we have a self proclaimed well informed "journalist" from the WaPo, David Ignatius, on FOX telling us that this has nothing to do with muzlum extremism but instead is just a bunch of deprived kids trying to "reach out".
This is, according to this mental midget, just France's example of America in the 60's.
Now there's a brilliant analysis for ya.
13
posted on
11/09/2005 6:21:41 AM PST
by
evad
( MD4BUSH SPREAD RUMOURS THAT MARYLAND SEN BARBARA MIKULSKI IS A LESBIAN.)
To: son of caesar
After last nights election results, I wonder how far behind them we are. 2, 3 decades maybe?
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:21:49 AM PST
by
stevio
(Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
To: HHKrepublican_2
"...a barometer for the unrest..."
It's pronounced thermometer.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:23:43 AM PST
by
Andy Ross
(A Scot in Trondheim)
To: son of caesar
man these frogs are stupid. so if you leave a couple hundred cars alone but burn box centers, newspapers etc, and then paraylze the transportation system of the city, frogs think this is progress. in all sincerety, france is really pathetic, like watching a worm squirm and die. put it out of its misery already.The Muslim fools who are burning stuff are the same kind of fools all over the world who burn, loot and pillage their own neighborhoods....as protest against the government and the "haves."
The stupid frogs here are the morons torching their own neighbors' cars. No brains.
But then they immigrate to France because they simply haven't got what it takes to make it in their own country. Much like the immigrants who come to this country. The USA is much easier to live in. The middle class, wealthy, educated, successful and business people don't emigrate from their homelands....only the "less than".....do.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:24:05 AM PST
by
starfish923
( It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
To: stevio
as i am now convinced, our govt will do nothing to avoid this problem happening here at some level. prudent minds would start planning for a future based on such happenings.
hopefully im dead wrong, but i dont think so. islam will gain immense confidence as a result of frances sissyness. islam will begin to ;pick off the west one by one, great tactics.
To: HHKrepublican_2
This spin is so beyond ridiculous. So if there are less cars turned into french fries then the rest of the damage doesn't count?
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:25:33 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
To: stevio
After last nights election results, I wonder how far behind them we are. 2, 3 decades maybe?Only ONE presidential election behind.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:25:45 AM PST
by
starfish923
( It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
To: Andy Ross
"...a barometer for the unrest..." It's pronounced thermometer.You don't need an anemometer to tell you which way the wind is blowing...
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:27:17 AM PST
by
SlowBoat407
(The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
To: stevio
sooner methinks,, I am in the south and if they try that crap at my house i will killem dead lol
To: MadIvan
Morning Ivan. You shouldn't hold back your feelings. Let go on occasion and REALLY let those feelings flow. Not good to keep it all bottled up inside.
PS- I feel the same way. I evacuated my four girls during RITA, but our neighbors that stayed patrolled with shotguns. Looters showed up at dusk. Took one look at the 12 gauges, and left our side of town. Peace through superior firepower.
Stay safe,
WW
To: MadIvan
Ivan,
Stunning, succinct post delivered with the subtlety of a pit bull.
I shall be watching for the response from Chirac.
Cheers
To: kevkrom
Yes--it's organized now, and the bosses are testing for weaknesses. And the weaknesses are legion! What they're learning now will be invaluable. All this army needs are some guns to finish the takeover.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:29:32 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
(.)
To: kevkrom
That certainly smacks of organization -- they are intentionally limiting things to property damage (with very few exceptions). I think maybe even the French would have the stomach for a fight if it was to protect people from being hurt and killed. If it's just property damage, we'll, c'est la vie.Bingo.
The French know this. They know who's doing it too. If nothing else they have great intel with sneaky communications.
They don't have the stomach to do what they have to do with it. Their own "one drop of French blood" legacy bites them in L'Ass yet again.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:29:36 AM PST
by
starfish923
( It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
To: HHKrepublican_2
Thank Goodness....only 617 cars torched last night. We're winning says de Villepin.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:29:37 AM PST
by
chiller
(Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
To: starfish923
starfish, if i read your post correctly, you could not be more wrong. islam could care less about material things, this is not about having, its about conquering in the name of their god. and btw, how utterly ridiculous to assuage our own idiocy, ie the wests, by allowing these people into our homes in order to HELP them. love would mean you make them help themselves, by themselves, for themselves. with help of course.
To: HHKrepublican_2
I think Steyn had it right. These are the opening skirmishes. The sky isn't falling quite yet, but once this settles down, there may be some intensive recruiting from AQ types. I don't see any evidence that AQ is at the controls of this. Anyone who's lived in France could tell you this has been brewing for many years, and it's not the first time the Arab street has revolted in some fashion. But given the copycat torchings in Belgium, we're on the cusp of something much worse than what we're seeing today.
No, this isn't the end of France. The U.S. and Britain would re-invade before allowing a Muslim revolution to overthrow the French Republic.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:30:20 AM PST
by
Rutles4Ever
(Stuck on Genius)
To: Andy Ross
That depends on whether your metaphor for a bad area is that things are "hot" there, or amounts to a "high pressure" situation.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:31:02 AM PST
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: starfish923
The middle class, wealthy, educated, successful and business people don't emigrate from their homelands....only the "less than".....do. My doctor is from India. My Dentist is from Vietnam. My pharmacist is from Pakistan.
To: HHKrepublican_2
They paralyzed the subway system yet this article somehow manages to focus on the bright side.
To: txroadhawg
Now they are turning on their friends!
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:32:47 AM PST
by
sine_nomine
(Every baby is a blessing from God, from the moment of conception.)
To: son of caesar
So either the supply of cars to burn is depleted by those already torched or the public is using protective camoflage -- a koran on the seat, some "Ala Akbar" sticker on the bumper, or a air-fragance dangle hanging from the rear-view with a photo of Mecca on it.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:32:59 AM PST
by
bvw
To: sargunner
Chirac is going to be known as the man who brought down the Fifth Republic, if he continues in this vein. He is so besotted with himself, so full of vanity and self-regard, that he ought to do something to avoid this fate.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:33:30 AM PST
by
MadIvan
(You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
To: HHKrepublican_2
Wake up America and other countries what is going on in France and other Europeans countries will hit here when the Rats get finished there..Read below..I saw this morning another French idiot saying this is just a bunch of kids and this jerk would not let John Gibson get a word in on the conversation..
Tuesday, November 08, 2005
The Season of Jihad
The worldwide Islamic jihad has begun. The riots in France are not isolated incidents of âdisenfranchised Muslim youthsâ. They are being organized and coordinated by adults. Shortly after the rioting began, French police discovered at least one warehouse facility that contained bomb making ingredients, Molotov cocktails, black masks to hide behind, motorcycles and cell phones. This âinsurgencyâ, or more appropriatelyâterrorismâwas planned. The Islamic mayhem in France and Denmark, and now the beginnings of the same chaos in Germany and Belgium, are neither unexpected nor are they coincidences.
On 31 October, in Denmarkâs Jyllands-Posten, it was reported that riots in Denmark began at almost the same time, as did the riots in France. The newspaper wrote (translated from Danish): âFor several nights in a row, there have been the worst riots in Ã
rhus for many years. "This land belongs to us", declared the young rioters. Another arson attack took place Sunday night. Sunday evening the fire department needed police escorts to get in and extinguish an arsonist fire in Søndervangs Alle. The words of the young Muslims sound like an open declaration of war against Danish society. The police must stay away. This area belongs to immigrants.â The paper further reports that the riots had been planned for three weeks prior to their implementation.
Monday, members of an Islamic terrorist cell planning what was said to be a major terrorist event were uncovered, arrested and stopped; preventing what is being called a âcatastrophic act of terrorismâ. There are rumblings that a major terrorist âeventâ is also planned for Los Angeles.
Holland and the other Scandinavian countries are now preparing for unrest within their own territories.
The âdisenfranchisementâ and âlow-pay-for-immigrantsâ argument is being usedâby the Leftâto the hilt. Some of it, but not to the extent the leftist media would have us believe, does exist.
Note: When the âbig lieâ is told, itâs always good to have some grain, no matter how small, of truth. That way, it sells better.
However, in regards to the disenfranchisement argument, the majority of Muslims in Europe have refused to assimilate into their adopted countries. Instead, they are demanding portions of land in these countries be ceded to them, so that they can operate separately and apart from the rest of each countryâs population. They have no intention of integrating into other societal cultures. Calling them âplaces of sinâ, in France Muslims have already been successful in closing down shops selling liquor and pork, movie theaters and dance halls; in the areas containing large Muslim populations. Considering there are at least 6 million Muslims in France (or 10% of its population) thatâs a good-sized territory.
Although one French Muslim leader, Mouloud Dahmani, said âAll we demand is to be left alone", it is evident to all who can see and hear that their intention is to destabilizeâthen take overâEuropean governments. That is what they are now attempting. This is, after all, the bottom line of Islamâworldwide domination. And it has become evident that they plan to acquire it; via any and all necessary means and measures.
Whether it will acknowledge it or not, Europe is now at war with Islam. It is already patently evident that Islam is at war with Europe. President Bush and his supporters saw this early on. It is just taking the ultra-leftist Europeans longer to absorb the truth of what is happening. And many of these still refuse to concede it.
History continues to tell usâveritably shouting it at usâthat appeasement of oneâs enemies doesn'tât work. Never has and never will. France, as usual, continues to learn this lesson the hard way.
One thing is crystal clear. Just as with 9/11, with the arrival of the Islamic Season of Jihad nothing on the planet will ever again be the same. Many believe that this is the beginning of the final war on the planet. If so, it is one that free societies must win over suppressive and despotic barbarism. The alternative is truly and unequivocally the end of civilization.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:33:40 AM PST
by
Beth528
To: HHKrepublican_2
Anybody who owns a car in the riot areas has either already had their car burned, or they have gotten their car the hell out of the area. Hence, the number of cars burned is dropping. The scumbags are moving on to other targets.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:34:22 AM PST
by
Fresh Wind
(Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
To: txroadhawg
Mon Dieu! *which* newspaper? Not *Le Monde*????(/Sarc)
To: Mamzelle
what interests me is that there have been so few casualties
///////////////////////////////////////////////////
So few casualties due to so little opposition. The only danger is if they accidentally burn themselves. The Gendarmes don't get close enough to shoot at and don't openly oppose them. This is the true benefit of enlightened appeasement. The disenfranchised youth get the chance for meaningful self expression and the authorities can apologize for their heartlessness and insensitivity that produced the disaffection. Then as the country burns, leadership can plan the concessions and capitulations that will make the children of Allah more secure and at peace with their religion as they plot to eventually rule the entire continent.(sarc.)
To: HHKrepublican_2
"However, the number of car burnings a barometer for the unrest dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam. Overnight Tuesday to Wednesday, youths torched 617 vehicles, down from 1,173 the previous night,"
The movement lost steam? 617 vehicles in one night is a sign they are giving up? Good Lord. You just have to laugh at how the MSN is reporting on this. Last night ABC News spent 5-times more time reporting on the annual migration of the Monarch Butterfly that they did the unrest in France. No kidding
To: MadIvan
Ivan,
tell us how you really feel.
To: HHKrepublican_2
Firebombs hit French Subway, newspaper offices torched.
All part of the new advertising campaign?
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:35:44 AM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
Two weeks and they haven't taken any decisive action! Were a similar situation happening in the US, i'd imagine Bush would have sent in the national guard armed to the hilt by day two at the latest.
To: bvw
bvw, posts like yours are one reason i joined fr. simply brilliant, although, id have to take this up with my god to see if its jsut a bit out of kosher.
To: HHKrepublican_2
Rioters defied a state of emergency that took effect Wednesday, as they looted and burned two superstores, set fire to a newspaper office and paralyzed France's second-largest city's subway system with a firebomb.
However, the number of car burnings a barometer for the unrest dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam...
Cool. That means that when I read about the Louvre going up in flames, the Eiffel Tower being cut up into scrap metal and Notre Dame being reduced to road building material, I'll know the wind is really out of their sails.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:37:11 AM PST
by
elli1
To: TEXASPROUD
If I was really letting fly with how I feel, I'd be striking Chirac across the face with an iron gauntlet repeatedly to beat some sense into the idiot.
This is a rebellion by Islamists. Crush it without mercy. Then maybe the Islamists will understand that there are lines they cannot cross without ending up dead.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:37:49 AM PST
by
MadIvan
(You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
To: NavyCanDo
When I complain about the MSN reporting on this - I do also include my beloved FOX News. Aruba is still the hottest topic on their evening programing.
To: son of caesar
starfish, if i read your post correctly, you could not be more wrong. islam could care less about material things, this is not about having, its about conquering in the name of their god.Ah yes, I forgot. Muslims are the ultimate altruists. All for God.
They are different than the rest of the human race throughout history. They DON'T crave money, power, land, etc. No greed, no lust for power and certainly no maniacal hatred there.
Wealthy Muslims don't live in luxury buying all those "material things." How silly of me.
and btw, how utterly ridiculous to assuage our own idiocy, ie the wests, by allowing these people into our homes in order to HELP them. love would mean you make them help themselves, by themselves, for themselves. with help of course.
I forgot yet again. That line on the Statue of Liberty about "Send us your poor huddled masses" is just a joke.
We really do get the world's BEST, wealthiest, most educated. We don't get felons, attackers, poor, sick, unemployable. We get the creme de la creme.
Those mean ole Minutemen at the Mexican border are trying to keep out such wunnerful folks.
Thanks for jogging my memory.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:40:40 AM PST
by
starfish923
( It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
To: HHKrepublican_2
".... set fire to a newspaper office ......"
Good for them!!!!!
Every black cloud has a silver lining.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:40:47 AM PST
by
sport
To: HHKrepublican_2
When the Jihadis get active, you're on your own. Neighborhood defense committees had best organize fast, because help won't be coming too quickly. Of course, if a couple of rioters get shot, hung, and burned, the police will come a little faster. Can't have neighborhoods protecting themselves now, can we?
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:40:56 AM PST
by
Enterprise
(The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
To: Mamzelle
"what interests me is that there have been so few casualties---the mujahadeen are holding back, waiting for orders and organizational support from Al Qaida..."
........................................................
this looks more and more like a test of French Gov - what they will do if we do X..setting France up for the big punch after learning how they respond..much like the terrorists flying pre 9/11 to see how we respond to various carry on weapons..box cutters were OK.
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posted on
11/09/2005 6:42:17 AM PST
by
ConsentofGoverned
(if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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