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To: neverdem

Imagine if the mayor were a REAL Republican.


5 posted on 11/06/2005 2:25:54 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Buck W.; cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
Imagine if the mayor were a REAL Republican.

The story doesn't mention the only Conservative and Republican in the race, Tom Ognibene. I'll take what satisfaction I can get at the apparent demise of the dem's NYC machine. FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

9 posted on 11/06/2005 2:45:21 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Buck W.
Imagine if the mayor were a REAL Republican.

Then the voters of New York would elect the Democrat.

In any two way race the winning candidate had to get at least a few votes to the opposite side of center. By definition 50 percent of the elegible voters in a race are to the left of center and 50 percent are to the right. To win in a tow way race it takes 51 percent of the votes.

For a Democrat that means getting at least 1 percent to the right of center and for a Republican it means getting one percent to the left of center.,

But center in liberal states is alot more liberal than the center of a conservative state. Typically a person well to the left of center in south carolina would be well to the right of center in New York.

What most of use would describe as a conservative would in New York have 99 percent of the voters too his left.

A conservative who could be expected to get 80 percent of the primary votes in South Carollina, would bet less than 3 percent of the primary votes in New York city.

Bloomburg is well to the left of nearly ever Freeper. But he is well to the right of the average New Yorker.

What Democrats tend to do in very liberal states is in many cases run very leftist candidates. Candidatea that can not get any votes to the right of the New York Center. Often times they can't get leftist voters close on the left side of center. While a candidate like Bloomberg can.

People on the right make the same mistake people on the left make.. The think the candidates that appeal to them would appeal to the majority of voters.

A successful movement never tries to elect all purists. Especially in states where they are a distict minority.

If democrats ever figure out that they should only run candidates that are not too liberal to win, they will rule the world. I have zero hopes of ever educating the right to only run candidates right enough to win.

A Republican candidate that is not too far right to win, is always preferable to a Democrat that is not too far left to lose. And is very preferable to a leftists who wins because the Repuplican candidate is way to right wing to win.

The transistion of states is a slow process. A Republican who is left enough to win will be just a tad to the right of the populus. Over his term he can move the electorate a tiny bit to the right. That means the replacement can be a tiny bit to the right of his predecessor. Over 30 to 50 years state can change from very much to hte left of the national average to only a little bit left of the natioal average.

It takes a long time to move an electorate. Those who think a leftist electorate will elect a right wing candidate are like those who think a right wing electorate will elect a leftist. It never happens.

10 posted on 11/06/2005 2:52:07 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Buck W.
Imagine if the mayor were a REAL Republican.

They'd lose.
12 posted on 11/06/2005 2:54:39 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Buck W.

LOL! It's hard for me to see why he's popular (having lived in NYC until about 5 years ago), because he doesn't strike me as a very convinced Republican. But it clearly indicates that people really don't like whatever it is the Dems are selling.


20 posted on 11/06/2005 3:09:30 PM PST by livius
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