Posted on 11/02/2005 10:51:17 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Edited on 11/02/2005 10:53:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
Check our the food for oil scandle. The French certainly have their connections in that scandle.
I heard nothing in Fitz's comments at his press conference that he was investigating anything other than the leak. He seemed completely taken in by the spin that this was all about leaking Plame's name to punish Wilson, or, at least, that there were no other avenues for investigation. To me, his outrage at the possibility of a leak - even of classified info - displayed an enormous naivete about the realities of DC. His idealism reminded me of one Kenneth Starr, an idealism that would cause him to vigorously pursue a matter that a more worldy-wise prosecutor would dismiss as everyday politics or (in Starr's case) as a matter peripheral to the presidency that could easily be turned against him by an aggressive and shameless White House (as it was).
It would be great for the GOP Senate to do this, but they lack the "manhood" to do such a thing.
We'll never learn unless we start calling a spade, a spade.
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The old established/liberal/socialist media is America's most ruthless, relentless, and destructive enemy.
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I was shocked that Fitzgerald so narrowly focused his investigations. I have a habit, though, of reading between the lines. I can see lots of information gathered ready to be taken up in future indictments that would send the DemonRats running.
Just the thought of the CIA being used for political purposes against any sitting president should scare the daylights out of both sides of the political spectrum.
First the Republicans because it was used against them, but then there should be enough old line hippies in the left, left to be freaked out not to mention the fact that there will have been a Republican President for 8 years with enough time to change the political outlook of the CIA, that should scare any lefty enough to go after the CIA playing internal political games, especially since they do not have control of the Congress or Senate, so no power to deal with any situation used against them.
To all,
Here is a question I have been meaning to ask all of you.
We know that the whole Brouhaha started with Joe Wilson's article in the NY Times and later, his interviews with almost everyone who wanted to talk to him,in effect accusing Bush of lying to get us to war.
Here is a relevant Senate Select Intelligence Committee paragrpah in their report that I find disturbing (CUT AND PASTE ) :
I saw Teonsing's interview on "FOX and Friends" this morning and she is absolutely brilliant.
The IAEA knew ten years before the latest invasion that Iraq had 500 tons of yellowcake - it was being monitored, and - most importantly - there was not a prohibition on them having it.
From David Kay's WMD report:
We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002. The discovery of these deliberate concealment efforts have come about both through the admissions of Iraqi scientists and officials concerning information they deliberately withheld and through physical evidence of equipment and activities that ISG has discovered that should have been declared to the UN.
Among the discoveries:
* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.
* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.
* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.
* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.
* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).
* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.
* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.
* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km - well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.
* Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles, and other prohibited military equipment.
With regard to biological warfare activities, which has been one of our two initial areas of focus, ISG teams are uncovering significant information - including research and development of BW-applicable organisms, the involvement of Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) in possible BW activities, and deliberate concealment activities. All of this suggests Iraq after 1996 further compartmentalized its program and focused on maintaining smaller, covert capabilities that could be activated quickly to surge the production of BW agents.
A very large body of information has been developed through debriefings, site visits, and exploitation of captured Iraqi documents that confirms that Iraq concealed equipment and materials from UN inspectors when they returned in 2002. One noteworthy example is a collection of reference strains that ought to have been declared to the UN. Among them was a vial of live C. botulinum Okra B. from which a biological agent can be produced. This discovery - hidden in the home of a BW scientist - illustrates the point I made earlier about the difficulty of locating small stocks of material that can be used to covertly surge production of deadly weapons. The scientist who concealed the vials containing this agent has identified a large cache of agents that he was asked, but refused, to conceal. ISG is actively searching for this second cache.
Then Kay said this:
[W]hatever we find will probably differ from pre-war intelligence. Empirical reality on the ground is, and has always been, different from intelligence judgments that must be made under serious constraints of time, distance and information. It is, however, only by understanding precisely what those differences are that the quality of future intelligence and investment decisions concerning future intelligence systems can be improved. Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction is such a continuing threat to global society that learning those lessons has a high imperative.
I like your theories, very simple and commonsense. If you start a ping list, please put me on it.
Wilson told two journalists, Pincus and Kristof, that he, Wilson, had debunked the forged Niger documents. The documents had recently been publically acknowledged to be fakes. Wilson made his statements to Pincus and Kristof at the same time that he had joined the Kerry campaign. The problem, however, is that Wilson had never seen the forged documents, his trip to Niger had nothing to do with them, and in any event Wilson's report never reached Cheney's eyes. So Joe got some splainin' to do there.
Rush has been all over some of these key issues like a pit bull on a Rat.
I hope somebody (like the Intel Comm chairman) is listening and brings Wilson et al in for questioning.
It may have happened earlier this year, just look at the A$$hole Wilson in the Kangaroo Impeachment Court hosted by the communist/America Hater Conyers.
Picture of Joseph Wilson with Cindy Sheenan at Conyer's Kanagroo Court.
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