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Religious beliefs trump hurricane relief (Baptists Veto Beer Company's Water)
http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=4747&z=3&p= ^ | 10/29/2005

Posted on 10/30/2005 9:10:08 PM PST by Between the Lines

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To: Between the Lines

If ACT-UP donated blood, that shouldn't be passed out either.

Seriously, the SBC pastor did not have to make it an issue. Water is water. the idea is to help people in distress, not constrain their relief because of your beliefs.

I think Jesus would have just given out the water.


21 posted on 10/30/2005 9:53:26 PM PST by exit82 (Ray Nagin, the mayor of Oz:"If I only had a brain.........")
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To: Petronski

"If the analog to the condom is beer, please be aware that no beer was provided and no one was expected to hand out beer."

The analogy was condoms to handing out water cans advertising a beverage they don't approve of.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 9:54:09 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: Firefigher NC

Not the same thing.


23 posted on 10/30/2005 9:54:50 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: exit82

"Seriously, the SBC pastor did not have to make it an issue. Water is water. the idea is to help people in distress, not constrain their relief because of your beliefs."

They weren't withholding water in general from people, just that particular water with the advertisement. Who cares what they didn't pass out, everyone still got water. And that's what truely matters, right?


24 posted on 10/30/2005 9:55:58 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: Petronski
The Red Cross hands out condoms and beer advertising disguised as water. Just because they do, doesn't make it right, and doesn't make it a requirement that all other relief efforts do so.
25 posted on 10/30/2005 9:56:14 PM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Petronski

"Not the same thing."

Two different physical things, both causing moral objections to dispensing them. Same concept.


27 posted on 10/30/2005 9:56:49 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: Petronski

The cans didn't say "beer."


28 posted on 10/30/2005 9:58:11 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: The Red Zone

The cans didn't say "beer."

Just the company which produces primarily, beer.


29 posted on 10/30/2005 9:59:35 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: Firefigher NC

Not at all. The cans didn't even mention the offending product.


The said "Drinking Water" and bore a black-and-white rendition of the Anheuser-Busch corporate logo.



It's a silly fetish.


30 posted on 10/30/2005 9:59:47 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Between the Lines; ValenB4; anonymoussierra; zagor-te-nej; Freelance Warrior; kedr; ...

Outside of the fact that Bud is water anyways, these people are fools and obviously put their own egos in front of Christian love and charity for those in need.


31 posted on 10/30/2005 10:00:21 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Between the Lines

It's not a requirement.

No one said anything about requiring them to do anything.


32 posted on 10/30/2005 10:00:51 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I don't think they'd be that tacky and selfish, do you?

No, they're even worse. They're so self centered and egotistical, they prefer people suffer then take the cans from that unclean alcohol company. /sarcasm

33 posted on 10/30/2005 10:02:23 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Firefigher NC
Anyways, wasn't it a little tacky of the beer company to give these cans to SBC, a group known for its anti-alcohol stance?

It would have been tacky if they gave them cans of beer (which can be argued in Bud's case are water) but they gave them something that people needed. The SBC showed their Christian humility and love alright. They deserve the criticism.

34 posted on 10/30/2005 10:04:14 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Between the Lines

The Southern Baptist should take a step forward and refuse the contributions of members who drink. Better yet just kick them out of the church.


35 posted on 10/30/2005 10:04:35 PM PST by oyez
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To: Firefigher NC

The little packets of pretzels served on airlines sometimes have the dreaded Beer Company name on them.

This is stupid, the very existence of the canned water in such volumes states that this is more than a Beer Company.

As for the Lord Jesus at the sinners' feasts, he'd probably shun beer because he's sharing wine along with the Gospel.


36 posted on 10/30/2005 10:04:37 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: flashbunny

Nah, Keystone or Rolling Rock.


37 posted on 10/30/2005 10:05:08 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Petronski

Meaning it's still an advertisement for the beer company. Look, this is a dumb argument when nothing bad happened to begin with. SBC had plenty of water to give out, they didn't hand out a particular drinking water made by a beer company, people still got their water, the media made a big deal over it, and some of you are falling for the spin. This isn't a matter of whether or not you agree with their stance on alcohol (I don't, by the way), it's just some reporters making a big deal about nothing and people getting mad at the Southern Baptists for no reason (just what the news people intended). It's within their right to not hand out Anheuser-Busch's water despite whether or not you agree with their moral stance on alcohol. No reason to criticize them or argue with each other over something trivial.


38 posted on 10/30/2005 10:05:24 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: Firefigher NC

No, I think they gave Jesus Christ a black eye.


39 posted on 10/30/2005 10:07:41 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: The Red Zone

And not just wine, but what would be considered Port these days.


40 posted on 10/30/2005 10:07:59 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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