Posted on 10/29/2005 7:06:08 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Oh, no doubt. He would be someone who bears watching.
But, as an afterthought to your query...do you think that if this person was of ME descent or obviously Muslim would the PC idiots have given a second thought to detaining him at all?
Or....since he was headed to Pakistan and received an apology...perhaps he was. Things that make you say, "hmmmmmmm...."
I got a tad obsessed with searching for the original thread as I know it was posted on the 20th - I commented on the dang thing.
And then *WHAM* I noticed something with the search results. The search function skipped ALL DATES between 10-24 to 10-18. After first noticing this I searched a few other times using different keywords at it was always the same, nothing for 10-23, 10-22, 10-21, 10-20 or 10-19.
So since this was originally posted on the 20th it didn't appear. I guess the original thread is somewhere in cyberspace heaven :-)
In this day and age, you're nuts to carry that kind of cash with you unless you're headed directly for the bank to make a deposit.
Aside from the prospects of being ripped off, the cops can take away that money from you without charging you and you have to litigate to get it back (the burden of proof is on you). Under the current asset forfeiture laws, the cops only have to "suspect" you of using the cash for a drug transaction and their "logic" will be that you wouldn't be carrying that amount of money for anything legitimate, so it must be for a drug-related transaction. If you're doing this on behalf of an employer, your boss is going to be less than happy with you.
OMG! Mine, I am so glad they found it!
I was kind of wondering, it seemed weird for this not to be posted, and I swear I searched on the exact title, then searched on every keyword I could think of.
I remember seeing the incident posted here.. not much slips by the FR wire sweepers. ;-)
The FR database had a burp about that time or so as I recall ,, something must have got jumbled in the database index.
I'm just kind of ticked at myself for not noticing at first all the missing dates in the search results.
Two more items on this story:
"The $80,000 was in $100 bills, authorities said.
The owner of the cash-stuffed baggage runs a gift shop in Manhattan, officials said."
and
"The owner of the money did not declare the cash but Ryan said he was never asked if he had anything to declare and he will likely not be charged with any crime."
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The Paki never declared the money ... and he gets off scot free. There must be more to this story than meets the eye.
It depends on what this guy does for a living. If this guy is a taxi driver or 7-Eleven clerk, that kind of cash would be a huge flag. Otherwise, maybe not.
In this day and age, you're nuts to carry that kind of cash with you unless you're headed directly for the bank to make a deposit.
Aside from the prospects of being ripped off, the cops can take away that money from you without charging you and you have to litigate to get it back (the burden of proof is on you). Under the current asset forfeiture laws, the cops only have to "suspect" you of using the cash for a drug transaction and their "logic" will be that you wouldn't be carrying that amount of money for anything legitimate, so it must be for a drug-related transaction. If you're doing this on behalf of an employer, your boss is going to be less than happy with you.
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Dam those dead beat dads statues and the drug statues enacted by Nancy Regan and Bill Bennett in the eighties.
You story was he wa leaving the country going home.
IT also sounds like you trust the US govt.
You needn't wonder. Click and read the entire article. It's amazing what you learn when you read the entire article.
Umm, do you cross the border much? At all? The signs are posted everywhere, you must declare all currency or monetary insturments over $10,000, coming AND going. It's been like that for a long time because of the WOD and later the WOT.
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I would never go to Canada. Does that answer your question?
Any man or woman has blinders on to think the safest place to keep your money is in the USA.
Well, he should have declared the money, but there are many reasons one might carry a small sum like $80,000 in $100 bills to a place like Pakistan.
The man owns a gift shop. If he went on a buying trip, it would be normal to use cash to make purchases of inventory for his shop. The $100 bill is the standard medium of exchange in that industry, among other industries, in Pakistan. It's also standard in most African countries and in the rest of Asia.
$80,000 is a small sum if you're on a buying trip for a business.
Pakistan is a source for many items one might find in a gift shop. I can think of several specialty lines of products that could be purchased there, along with items from Afghanistan other countries in the middle east. Not all business done in Pakistan is terrorism-related.
That said, the money should have been declared and the idiot should never have packed it in checked luggage. I suspect he checked it in an attempt not to declare it...working off the books, as many small business owners do a lot of the time. It's risky, though, as he discovered.
"The Congress shall have Power...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations."
Some facts here: Pakistan is a foreign nation; moving money is a form of Commerce; therefore, the Congress has the Power to regulate it. The United States cannot tax exports, but it can "regulate" them, for example, by banning them. Amounts of money on the order or $80,000 also might fall under "aid and comfort to the enemy" if so destined.
Interesting. I'm sure you're right, it's just a matter of flying under the radar of would-be thieves. The TSA screeners probably see all kinds of stuff, which isn't the half of it.
"You would probably be surprised at the sums in cash and gemstones that are carried around by very ordinary looking people, in ordinary bags, on any given day in New York. "
Indeed. The diamond and gemstone business, along with several others, are cash businesses, with the $100 bill as the basic currency. $80,000 is a small sum, really. Just 8 bundles of $100 bills. Nothing, really.
It's amazing how small-thinking some freepers are when it comes to money. In my former business, I saw briefcases filled with bundles of $100 bills change hands on a regular basis, and that was a perfectly legal business.
Of course, much of this business is off the books, even if the business itself is a legal one. No receipts appear to be exchanged, just the goods and the cash.
I was very small potatoes in that business, and worked with smaller sums, but it was always amazing to see $1 million or so get handed across a table by some guy wearing blue jeans and a bolo tie.
Well, he should have declared the money, but there are many reasons one might carry a small sum like $80,000 in $100 bills to a place like Pakistan.
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Yeah like funding a madrassah.
A "businessman" should know better than to carry around 80,000 in 100 dollar bills in a travel bag to Pakistan or anywhere. If he cannot abide by the rules he shouldn't be playing.
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"Not all business done in Pakistan is terrorism-related."
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NO, but quite a lot is. I'm not sure how much you understand about international movement of money for purposes of islamic terror but from what you post - not much.
"Where are you? Head in the sand?
It not illegal for a man to take this money with him crossing borders?
What are you nuts???"
I wasn't necessarily referring to the Canadian border. I guess I should have reread your post. It is self-explanatory. Your ignorance is breathtaking. Your syntax is remarkable.
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