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Patrick Fitzgerald Does a Star Tour as Captain Queeg
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 28 October 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 10/28/2005 1:05:49 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

This is a very curious press conference just conducted by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. With his machine-gun delivery. He repeatedly flopped back and forth between saying that the “outing” of Valerie Plame, wife of discredited Ambassador Joe Wilson was a “serious matter,” and saying that he “reached no conclusion” whether she had been outed, and if so, when and by whom.

The mood in the room among the reporters changed appreciably as the conference went on. Initially, the press was very interested in the charges made and reasons for them, and in the charges not made against other people, and the reasons why not. But by the end of the conference, the reporters were clearly puzzled by the wandering speech of Fitzgerald and his lame analogies about a baseball pitcher throwing at a batter’s head, and a bank robber with his fingerprint on the holdup note and a signed confession.

Again and again, Mr. Fitzgerald said that it was “vital” that he and his Grand Jury should get to the end of the process with a “clear understanding of all of the facts.” Yet, again and again, he replied to reporters’ questions by saying that he “had not reached a conclusion” about central facts of the matter concerning either Valerie Plame or Joe Wilson.

Source: this is written as the press conference is under way. The transcript will surely be posted on the Internet within minutes.

Toward the end of the conference, I realized what I was watching. Fitzgerald was offering the press and the nation a version of Humphrey Bogart’s star turn in his last film as Phillip Francis Queeg, the Captain of the USS Caine in The Caine Mutiny (1954). The turning point in that film came when the obsessive Captain comes apart on the stand while being cross-examined by the lawyer for the mutineers in their trial.

Beginning with the exposure of Captain Queeg as obsessive in the story about the missing strawberries from the mess hall, the Captain visibly unravels. As he does so, he takes two ball bearings from his pocket and begins to play with them in his hand.

Fitzgerald seems to be a similar person. He is wound far too tight. He is obsessing about a few conversations with reporters (where it might be the reporters, not Scooter Libby, who are either lying or maybe just poorly remembering what happened years ago). At the same time, Fitzgerald is deliberately ignoring the larger fact that a war is going on, and must be won. It was just like Captain Queeg.

Fitzgerald had everything except the strawberries, and the ball bearings. By the end, I think many of the reporters had reached the same conclusion.

John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: ballbearings; captainqueeg; cialeak; cz; grandjury; joewilson; patrickfitzgerald; strawberries; thecainemutiny; traitor; valerieplame
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My take. Do those of you who forced yourself to watch this end to end, have a similar reaction?

John / Billybob

1 posted on 10/28/2005 1:05:51 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
I listened to it on the radio, and you seem right on with your interpretation. CAPT Queeg...HA!

Excellent take on this.
2 posted on 10/28/2005 1:09:13 PM PDT by tongue-tied (stands alone)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Fitzgerald showed one thing he is a primadonna. Waiting after two years to the last day to issue a weak indictment, knowing the press was all over it. Libby last testified I think over a month ago, he could have indicted him on perjury then. He strung this out and now wants to continue the investigation. I think Fitzs likes the spotlight


3 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:39 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Congressman Billybob

After all the puff pieces no Fitzgerald over the past few weeks I expected much more than was delievered during the press conference today.

This guy sounded like a moron.


4 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:39 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (What, me worry?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

If the quality of Fitzgerald's investigative skills is as poor as his ability to articulate his rationale for issuing this indictment, Scooter and his counsel should have little difficulty putting forth a successful defense.


5 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:52 PM PDT by Jim Hill
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To: Congressman Billybob
I just listened to him on the radio and I have a similar take on this. It seems this guy does not get the big picture at all. He is the kind of person who sees trees, but has no concept of the forest. I can't make any sense out of the contradiction between disclosing Plame's "classified" employment status and yet having no indictment for violation of the statute that makes crime of outing a covert agent.
6 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:54 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Congressman Billybob
Fitzgerald had everything except the strawberries, and the ball bearings

No marbles, either, he seems to have lost his as well.

I think there is some Captain Ahab in this story as well - Fitz has fixated on minutiae about what Libby said about what Libby had said in the past, while downplaying what this story was all about in the first place. I sure hope no judge will give him another grand jury. Any guesses on that, from what you have seen so far with the indictment and Fitz's ramblings?

7 posted on 10/28/2005 1:12:23 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Again and again, Mr. Fitzgerald said that it was “vital” that he and his Grand Jury should get to the end of the process with a “clear understanding of all of the facts.” Yet, again and again, he replied to reporters’ questions by saying that he “had not reached a conclusion” about central facts of the matter concerning either Valerie Plame or Joe Wilson.

The prosecution's talking points are that the obstruction was so serious, and the lies so pervasive, that he spent 2 years just trying to establish where the lies were coming from.

Anyway, expect those arguments, or some such, to be reported through the blogosphere.

8 posted on 10/28/2005 1:12:30 PM PDT by podkane
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To: Congressman Billybob
Obviously there is something wrong.
Fitzgerald is tasked with finding out who exposed the
CIA Agent. Now he is off in cloud cuckoo land.
At the rate he is dithering around in Chicago we will
all be dead before he finishing studying the truckloads
of material he carted out of Chicago City Hall.
9 posted on 10/28/2005 1:13:34 PM PDT by Hans
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To: maica

Fitzgerald seems to be a similar person. He is wound far too tight. He is obsessing about a few conversations with reporters (where it might be the reporters, not Scooter Libby, who are either lying or maybe just poorly remembering what happened years ago). At the same time, Fitzgerald is deliberately ignoring the larger fact that a war is going on, and must be won. It was just like Captain Queeg.

Captain Queeg is an apt analogy.


11 posted on 10/28/2005 1:14:08 PM PDT by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: jbwbubba
"prima donna"

That condescending crap about the importance of his own mission was nauseating.
12 posted on 10/28/2005 1:14:11 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Congressman Billybob

I liked the part when Fitzgerald said that Libby was trying to poison his precious bodily fluids...


13 posted on 10/28/2005 1:14:59 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Congressman Billybob
He was definitely stressed. I was wondering if that was a cyst between his eyebrows or if he has had skin breakouts due to all the tension.

The fact that I was musing about his skin condition may indicate that he was repetitive, defensive and confusing.

Frankly, I think he just had to indict someone and lying to the FBI and the GJ was all he had. Libby may have just screwed up. It appears the fibbies asked questions to which they already had answers (how Libby discovered Plame's status). For a bright man like Libby who has long been a political player, this is beyond dumb, IMO.

That said, I believe any good defense attorney can get this reduced, if not dismissed. It sure seems quite thin.
14 posted on 10/28/2005 1:15:09 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation.)
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To: Jim Hill
Scooter and his counsel should have little difficulty putting forth a successful defense.

Fitz claims early on that it wasn't common knowledge outside the intel community that Plame was CIA.

If this goes to trial (and I doubt it will), Fitz's lawyers will have a field day putting people on the stand who can say otherwise.

And, in the process, could well take questioning where Fitz was unwilling to take it. Imagine a laywer putting Miller or Cooper or Russert on the stand, asking whether they knew about Plame's CIA status beforehand, and then asking them how they knew.

Goldmine. Fitz really screwed up putting that in the indictment - but if he hadn't, his false statement and perjury charges would have unravelled.

15 posted on 10/28/2005 1:15:18 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Did anyone ask him who first leaked to Novak?


16 posted on 10/28/2005 1:16:09 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Congressman Billybob
Fitzgerald seemed honest enough, if he is correct, Libby lied to a grand jury. Duh....prosecute. This is a whole lot of zero. In two weeks this will have as much impact as that b@tch in the ditch in Texas.......yawn. Two years of tax payer money.....for nothing.
17 posted on 10/28/2005 1:17:06 PM PDT by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Congressman Billybob

How much taxpayer money is this Fitzgerald guy willing to
waste on this bul$$$it??


18 posted on 10/28/2005 1:17:27 PM PDT by beethovenfan
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To: Congressman Billybob

My reaction is that I wish Fitzgerald would do the same rectal exam on everyone in Washington.

Then I think we might get the smaller govt. we need as 80% of people there would have to resign their jobs.

I want Fitz to keep on going except that the targets should be drawn out of a hat instead of targeting the Bush admin.


19 posted on 10/28/2005 1:17:45 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Congressman Billybob
I totally agree with your analysis. I thought he sounded simple throughout the press conference. His baseball analogy was silly and rambling. He also said,"..no one would have had to went to jail..." Unbelievable! and from someone who is being held up as this brilliant prosecutor!
20 posted on 10/28/2005 1:18:21 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Congressman Billybob

Sorry , but I have the impression that Harvard has graduated many people of average ability.(I met many) This is a 2 years farce ,conducted by an American dimwit.Inadmissible !


21 posted on 10/28/2005 1:18:24 PM PDT by Milwaukeeprophet (Neo and proud)
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To: dirtboy
If this goes to trial (and I doubt it will), Fitz's lawyers will have a field day putting people on the stand who can say otherwise.

Libby's lawyers?

22 posted on 10/28/2005 1:19:19 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: Salvey

You're right, Libby's lawyers.


23 posted on 10/28/2005 1:20:04 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Congressman Billybob

24 posted on 10/28/2005 1:21:07 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Fitzgerald acted like he was prosecuting a triple murder, when in reality it was a political case involving the memories of a few reporters with a staffer about an ongoing story in the news.

Again, Fitzgerald claimed during the press conference that he was prosecuting a case of "national security" of the most important order.

I was floored when I heard that, almost fell over laughing.

National Security -- baloney. He was obsessed with charging Libby, an honest patriotic American who donated years in public service only to be wrongly implicated in a political scandal that Fitzgerald blindly refused to see.

If Fitzgerald eventually charges Rove, I feel the US Attorney General, if he can, must shut him down immediately under the threat of malfeasance of office charges.

Fitzgerald is so full of himself he stunk today.


25 posted on 10/28/2005 1:21:15 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Congressman Billybob
Or Gegory Peck as Captain Ahab ... "We're after the White Whale men! ... We're after the White Whale!"


Pray tell ... this creep isn't married, is he?



26 posted on 10/28/2005 1:21:31 PM PDT by G.Mason (If the world could hear recordings of all conversations in your home, would you be in jail?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I missed a chunk of the front end of the conference, but the part I saw at the end reflected he was more concerned that Libby lied to reporters than anything else. The indictments themselves hint at the same. Have you read the indictments?

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf


27 posted on 10/28/2005 1:21:39 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Harsh, but close. I lost a lot of respect for him as he went way beyond the charges and their implications in justifying his investigation. I expected facts and nothing more. Instead, he made it sound like he took down Aldrich Ames or something. Bizarre...


28 posted on 10/28/2005 1:22:21 PM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for being there. :)

Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald pauses during a news conference at the Justice Department following the indictment of I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby Friday, Oct. 28, 2005 in Washington. Vice presidential adviser I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby Jr. was indicted Friday on charges of obstruction of justice, making a false statement and perjury in the CIA leak case. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

29 posted on 10/28/2005 1:22:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

30 posted on 10/28/2005 1:23:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Good take, C.B. If he's still trying to get all the facts, did he say if the Grand Jury has been extended?

"Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them!"

31 posted on 10/28/2005 1:24:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: Congressman Billybob

This guy is a publicity hog and Dem operative.


32 posted on 10/28/2005 1:26:11 PM PDT by pankot
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To: reformedliberal
Actually, there is a very easy way for any competent defense counsel to get this case dismissed by the judge, before it goes to a (Washington, D.C.) jury. Judith Miller and Matt (?) Cooper will have to take the stand in the course of this trial.

On cross-examination, Libby's counsel will ask both of them questions about aspects of what they did, who they talked to, and what they know, as a part of testing their honesty. Those questions will go into areas that both witnesses will refuse to answer.

When they refuse to answer clearly relevant questions (not on 5th Amendment grounds), that becomes a basis for a motion to the judge to strike their testimony. This is a normal response to failure of any witness to answer questions.

Case then dies, before it can go to the jury.

John / Billybob
33 posted on 10/28/2005 1:26:19 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Quoted by the BBC this time, on Wednesday.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
It was all about a political attempt to embarass the Bush administration through a devious rogue CIA op, with Plame and Wilson the main players.

Thats about the size of it.

Wilson and his "wife" lies about the VP's office sending him of all people to investigate nuclear terrorism when it was her and her fellow leftist subversives at the CIA all along will eventually become the real story.

The report indicated that there was enough intelligence to make a “well-founded” judgment that Saddam Hussein was seeking, perhaps as late as 2002, to obtain uranium illegally from Niger and the Democratic Republic of Congo (6.4 para. 499). In particular, referring to a 1999 visit of Iraqi officials to Niger, the report states (6.4 para. 503): “The British government had intelligence from several different sources indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger's exports, the intelligence was credible.” This intelligence (which had controversially found its way into George W. Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech) had previously (before September 2003 [C. May, 2004]) been thought to rely on forged documents. The Butler Review stated that “the forged documents were not available to the British Government at the time its assessment was made.” (6.4 para. 503) Taking into account the American intelligence community’s findings on the matter, it is true that in December 2003, then CIA director George Tenet conceded that the inclusion of the claim in the State of the Union address was a mistake. (CNN.com, 2003) However, Tenet believed so, not due to any compelling evidence to the contrary, but rather because the CIA (criticized concerning this matter by the Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq [Schmidt, 2004]) had failed to investigate the claim thoroughly; however again, the Butler Review states (6.4 para. 497) in 2002 the CIA “agreed that there was evidence that [uranium from Africa] had been sought.” In the run-up to war in Iraq, the British Intelligence Services apparently believed that Iraq had been trying to obtain uranium from Africa; however, no evidence has been passed on to the IAEA apart from the forged documents (6.4 Para. 502). (Times Online, 2003) The report did not blame any specific individuals. It specifically stated that John Scarlett, the head of the JIC should not resign, and indeed should take up his new post as head of MI6.

34 posted on 10/28/2005 1:26:26 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Congressman Billybob

My take: Fitzgerald is fixated with Mrs. Wilson in fact being a classified and/or covert CIA employee...I believe a substantial case can be made that Mrs. Wilson was in no way classified/covert beyond her CIA personnel file.


35 posted on 10/28/2005 1:26:35 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Liberals - Stuck on Stupid.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I could not get a good interpretation of Fitgerald's statements. I waited just about the whole press conference for a reporter to ask Fitzgerald whether Plame was a covert agent, and was merely mentioning the name of a CIA agent, covert or not, by a government official to a non-government person a crime. I'm still puzzled.


36 posted on 10/28/2005 1:27:00 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

What I found disturbing was that he started off by giving the impression Plame was, indeed, a covert operative. He then pontificated on the importance of maintaining covert status and national security. Hey, who could disagree with the general principle of perserving national security.

But, half way through, he clearly states that he reached no conclusion about Plame being covert. As a matter of fact, he uses the term "classified" and basically admits that the original statute that formed the underlying basis of the investigation was not violated. Of course, he covers himself by saying prosecutors investigate facts, not crimes.

Basically, it all came down to this. Fitz didn't like the way Plame was treated, covert or not. He felt that if Libby had a beef with Wilson, he should have taken it up with Wilson. Ok, Fitz is a national security hawk and is peeved by what Libby has done. But, he could not indict Libby on the underlying statute. Thus, he uses the process to ensnare Libby, which Libby may deserve to be snared by if he made misleading statement.

Bottom line, Fitz talked about the underlying crime, then did squat about it. Why? I am still waiting for an answer from Fitz, one that doesn't involve bean ball analogies.


37 posted on 10/28/2005 1:27:02 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Congressman Billybob

It seems to me that Fitz had enough stuff to charged Libby with the underlying charge .... and would have, but he knew it'd be laughed out of court. It's now pretty obvious that Libby (or anybody else, ftm) did not "knowingly" out a "covert agent".

So, Fitz took what he could get and call it quits.

Fitz kinda fizzled for the Dems. I'm sure they are deeply saddened. :)


38 posted on 10/28/2005 1:27:57 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: tongue-tied

Queeg? Or more like Captain Ahab pursuing an illusion?


39 posted on 10/28/2005 1:28:44 PM PDT by pankot
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To: pabianice
"I liked the part when Fitzgerald said that Libby was trying to poison his precious bodily fluids.."


LOL!!


One can only hope that Fitz has a fifty cal on his cleared off desk and starts firing out the window.



40 posted on 10/28/2005 1:29:09 PM PDT by G.Mason (If the world could hear recordings of all conversations in your home, would you be in jail?)
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To: Milwaukeeprophet
I have the same impression that "Harvard has graduated many people of average ability (I have met many)." So have I. But then, I went to Yale. LOL.

John / Billybob
41 posted on 10/28/2005 1:29:51 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Quoted by the BBC this time, on Wednesday.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I think Fitz found himself in Ronnie Earle territory, with a grand jury winding down and nothing to charge....like Earle, he was convinced that there was wrongdoing somewhere, but he doesn't have the law on his side to prosecute that wrongdoing. He obviously made a last ditch attempt to get an indictment on the leak law - this is why he had people interviewing Wilson's neighbors this week, to try to prove to the GJ that Plame was covert under the law. But the GJ didn't buy it. Now he has nothing except some "he said-she said" perjury claims on Libby. This press conference was a total CYA to try and salvage his reputation and keep the press from losing interest.


42 posted on 10/28/2005 1:29:53 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: NormsRevenge

That does NOT look like a confident man. I missed the entire press conference due to family considerations, but from what I have read here at FR, I cannot believe that this is the guy that thinks he can take on Chicago's City Hall. We shall see. Did anyone get the impression from Fitzgerald that he was expanding the investigation to a possible (probable, in my book) CIA conspiracy? From what I've read, he seems to be buying the "Plame was outed" BS.


43 posted on 10/28/2005 1:30:04 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: colorado tanker

Yes, it had been extended. And the six month extension was up today.


44 posted on 10/28/2005 1:30:08 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Congressman Billybob
Spot on, John...

Aandy Warhole made a comment about people... 15 minutes is ticking...

45 posted on 10/28/2005 1:31:06 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: colorado tanker
contrary to the Wilson lawyer statement and Shep Smith's spin, I thought the tone of his saying " the bulk of the investigation" is done indicates there will be no further substantive products of the investigation, unless something totally unexpected comes in. That was why he said he would have expected he whole thing to have been done by last October, and basically could have been if Libby had been truthful (allegedly.)
46 posted on 10/28/2005 1:31:33 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Congressman Billybob

I think Hillarhea has his FBI file........


47 posted on 10/28/2005 1:32:25 PM PDT by mo
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To: Calvin Locke

Fitz has to convince a judge to convene a new grand jury now. We'll see if he can. Meanwhile, Libby can tie him in knots by demanding a speedy trial.


48 posted on 10/28/2005 1:32:31 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: Jim Hill

I think that Fitz thinks he has all he needs to do is put big time pressure on "Scooter" and he will cave and strike a plea deal to give up Rove or higher up.

I just hope Libby has the cajones of Liddy.


49 posted on 10/28/2005 1:32:35 PM PDT by RetSignman
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To: TSchmereL
I just listened to him on the radio

I also listened to it. Did you notice his voice sounds exactly like Louis Freeh?

50 posted on 10/28/2005 1:32:48 PM PDT by lawnguy (It works Napoleon, you don't even know.)
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