'Intelligent design' supporters gather (700 Scientists agree ID is "step beyond Darwin")

Seattle PI ^ | 24 Oct 2005 | ONDREJ HEJMA (AP)

[Dimensio]

There aren't 700 scientists anywhere in the world who believe in ID. I know. I've read it on the Free Republic.

Do you hve a link to support this claim?

[shuckmaster]

The biblical creationist starts with the Genesis account.

Correct.

The Intelligent Design scientist starts with an observation from nature.

Wrong. There's no such thing as an intelligent design scientist. ID is a completely bogus pseudo science designed to sell books to dishonest radical fundamentalists who think they are sneaky enough to get superstition and myth taught in science class without real scientists ever noticing the difference.

[furball4paws]

I was kind of hoping to string this one along a little, but he seems to have caught on. Maybe I need subtlety lessons. Want to oblige?

I would have said "He says 'I don't understand - it cannot be explained - it must be intelligently designed - the designer is aliens or Grauch Marx or God (shhhhh) - packs up his science certificate from the diploma mill and goes to Wednesday evening prayer".

You have such a way with words!

[LiteKeeper]

You forgot the < / sarcasm > tag

[furball4paws]

Is that about the 700 scientists or the bit about FR.

[Dimensio]

The bit about FR.

[furball4paws]

Good luck getting an answer.

[boatbums]

Has it ever occurred to you that since NONE of us was present to observe when "it" all began, all we have is conjecture? We are all operating by faith in some way. You choose to believe there is no Creator, therefore no meaning for life, no "higher power" to answer to at the end of your life. That is why you fight so hard for what even the staunchest supporters can still only call a theory and not fact. There is still no observable occurrence of a transmutation on record, anywhere, anytime.

[b_sharp]

"Show me one example of an intelligent being that isn't born from another intelligent being.

That's an interesting question.

If I were a creationist I would say 'God' fits that bill.

Since I'm not a creationist, I would have to agree with you that God was created by man.

[chrisg2001]

>Has it ever occurred to you that since NONE of us was present to observe when "it" all began, all we have is conjecture? We are all operating by faith in some way. You choose to believe there is no Creator, therefore no meaning for life, no "higher power" to answer to at the end of your life.

Millions of people all around the world beleive in God, are religious, and have no trouble reconciling this faith with
the scientific theory of evolution and other scientific principles.

> That is why you fight so hard for what even the staunchest supporters can still only call a theory and not fact.

Playing word games with "theory" and "fact" just makes your point seem superficial and silly. A theory is not a _guess_. It's a model of the way things work that is borne out by evidence. Technology based on things that are "just theories" surrounds you.


>There is still no observable occurrence of a transmutation on record, anywhere, anytime.
I have no idea what this means.

[Coyoteman]

Or, biologically speaking, Dinosaurs were primitive comared to early mammals. Early mammals became more sophisticated (compare primitive hearts found in reptiles to the hearts in mammals).

Simply stated, Intelligent Design is a quantifiable, verifiable, observable fact.

Whoe! Back up the turnip truck! You lost me there. How did you get from the reptile vs. mammal heart design to ID? Is this one of those equations with lots of numbers, followed by "Then a Miracle Happened," followed by lots more numbers?

If not, you have let out a step. Try this one again, slower this time.

[b_sharp]

I admit that I once tried to kill a chicken and suddenly I'm laughing stock. Don't expect your garbage to be cleaned out any time soon.

Be aware that I do have a catalog from Acme Novelties.

[Coyoteman]

What do you call janitor at Darwin Central?

SIR!

[Doctor Stochastic]

Zero is a quantity.

[chrisg2001]

>Zero is a quantity.

How come freep hasn't upgraded to a forum system supporting threads? discussion in the forums with replies are incredibly hard to follow.

[Doctor Stochastic]

You can trace a single strain by following the "To nnn" link at the bottom of each post. Forward referencing isn't there yet.

[furball4paws]

If you cleaned out the garbage, there wouldn't be anything left.

I'm you'll use the Acme products to the best of your ability just like that wiley canine (or was that coyoteman?).

[King Prout]

good post.

[furball4paws]

Why'd they pick on Prague?

[Prime Choice]

'Intelligent design' supporters gather (700 Scientists agree ID is "step beyond Darwin")

I'm certain on closer examination that these "700 scientists" are not scientists at all.

Never forget that every absurdity has its champions...and it doesn't make it any less an absurdity.