Posted on 10/24/2005 5:27:52 PM PDT by gobucks
PRAGUE, Czech Republic -- Hundreds of supporters of "intelligent design" theory gathered in Prague in the first such conference in eastern Europe, but Czech scholars boycotted the event insisting it had no scientific credence.
About 700 scientists from Africa, Europe and the United States attended Saturday's "Darwin and Design" conference to press their contention that evolution cannot fully explain the origins of life or the emergence of highly complex species.
"It is a step beyond Darwin," said Carole Thaxton of Atlanta, a biologist who lived with her husband, Charles, in Prague in the 1990s and was one of the organizers of the event.
"The point is to show that there in fact is intelligence in the universe," she said. The participants, who included experts in mathematics, molecular biology and biochemistry, "are all people who independently came to the same conclusion," she said.
Among the panelists was Stephen C. Meyer, a fellow at the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based think tank that represents many scholars who support intelligent design.
He said intelligent design was "based upon scientific evidence and discoveries in fields such as biochemistry, molecular biology, paleontology and astrophysics."
Many leading Czech thinkers, however, boycotted the conference, insisting the theory - which is being debated in the United States - is scientifically groundless.
Intelligent design holds that life is too complex to have developed through evolution, implying a higher power must have had a hand. Critics contend it is repackaged creationism and improper to include in modern scientific education.
Vaclav Paces, chairman of the Czech Academy of Sciences, called the conference "useless."
"The fact that we cannot yet explain the origin of life on Earth does not mean that there is (a) God who created it," Paces was quoted as telling the Czech news agency CTK.
That would mean that you would be opposed to ID, then?
Then you are concluding that the ID is not God?
Of course not. How did you arrive at such a nonsensical conclusion? The God of the Christian Bible designed and created me and you. But again, one can believe in ID while accepting or not accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Why? Because ID is focused on whether creation was designed or not and is independent of who that designer was. Comprende?
Yes. Thanks. Your explanation is clear. The 'creator' is not necessarily God.
New information has shown that DNA is so complex that scientists can't figure it out.
And here's a few interesting snippets re: dna, etc. with link:
DEVASTATING MATH PROBABILITIES
The possibilities of it occurring by chance are devastating.
"Based on probability factors . . any viable DNA strand having over 84 nucleotides cannot be the result of haphazard mutations. At that stage, the probabilities are 1 in 4.80 x 1050. Such a number, if written out, would read:
480,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
"There is enough storage capacity in the DNA of a single lily seed or a single salamander sperm to store in the Encyclopedia Britannicas."—*R. Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, pp. 115-116.
"The irony is devastating. The main purpose of Darwinism was to drive every last trace of an incredible God from biology. But the theory replaces God with an even more incredible deity—omnipotent chance."—*T. Rosazak, Unfinished Animal (1975), pp. 101-102.
http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/08dna04.htm
There are companies now that make DNA, insert it into cell nuclei, and make living bacteria. Your sources are wrong.
Also chemistry is not random. Point out a long chain oxygen molecule for me. If you can.
“Evolution became in a sense a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to bend their observations to fit in with it.”—*H. Lipson, “A Physicist Looks at Evolution,” Physics Bulletin 31 (1980), p. 138
And that's kind of like what you are doing, "bending to fit."
And you must believe that rain only falls to the ground one-sixth of the time. There's 5 other directions it can travel, right??
What's the problem. You mortimers have been telling us all along that Evolution presents no problem to the Creation story. Why then is ID such a problem....
BTW, Evolution and Creation are in direct contention with one another. They're incompatible. And the approach here is an underlining of that fact.
There was no such application of Darwin to biological systems at the Time Darwin posited his fraud and asked science to go out looking for evidences to support his conclusion.
ID was arrived at by review of evidences and is now getting a start. So, your observation means precisely doodly squat.
Evolution is a collection of theories stacked up to pose as an umbrella concept. So far, the only thing evolving in Evolution is evolution theory. And the only thing science has been able to prove consistently is that subtheories of evolution are wrong and must be regularly replaced with new theories.
Indeed, how many cans of organic material in a closed system to you open every day to find no new life forms inhabiting.
And it doesn't get any better when you add energy, it kills the cells - it's a neat invention called cooking the food.
The food industry involves itself in billions of tests every year to make sure that the closed systems of their food packages aren't giving rise to new life. They add energy to those closed systems in every manner and form. Go home and open a closed system called a gerber baby food jar - No new life - just food arrived at from adding energy to organic material. lol.
Of course, the absence of abiogenisis observations from all experimentation results means that it must take millions of years.
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