[rightinthemiddle]

Up...the MSM and the Dims are loving this mess. I guess we want to be the minority.

I'm as conservative as anyone on this board. I'm not happy with everything W has done, especially on illegal immigrations and spending. But we have three more years affect change. It takes time for people in the middle who have actually started to think of themselves as Republicans to adopt more conservative positions. Like most of us, I didn't do it all at once.

Just like the Dims, we can run these people off. The MSM and the Libs know it (the Libs are really good at it themselves). The Media is using our words to defeat us.

So, for those of you who keep whining about RINOs, whining about Bush, saying you aren't going to vote for the Republicans, I look at it this way:

You've already done more damage than your vote will make up for anyway. You've disengaging from the process.

So who cares what you think?

[Souled_Out]

"So who cares what you think?"

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That is the attitude the Republican party takes with Conservatives that puts them in the current situation and ensures their defeat.

[trubluolyguy]

It takes time for people in the middle who have actually started to think of themselves as Republicans to adopt more conservative positions. Like most of us, I didn't do it all at once.

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So...the Republicans have to govern like pu$$ies and nominate "stealth" candidates for judgeships so they don't lose these independant minded voters? In other words, "pi$$ off conservatives, we don't need you."

Ok. Lets watch them win in '06 without conservatives. Or will enough be stupid enough to (while still clutching their groins in pain) crawl into the polls to beg to be kicked in the teeth too?