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Who’s Your Daddy? Who are a child’s parents?
National Catholic Register ^ | October 5, 2005 | Eve Tushnet

Posted on 10/05/2005 1:43:35 PM PDT by NYer

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To: RockinRight
With privacy laws in place, it might be very difficult to find out the necessary info to guard against marrying a sibling.
41 posted on 10/06/2005 4:29:38 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Marie

When she finds a worthy husband and it turns out they can't conceive, perhaps they might consider ADOPTION. I know people want to carry on their bloodline, but I personally think it's weird to carry you own grandchildren.


42 posted on 10/06/2005 4:35:21 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: samiam1972; Marie Antoinette; Tax-chick
I hate waddling. It's such an ugly thing!

From a man's viewpoint. I love waddling. It is incredibly cute. When my wife was pregnant with Autumn she waddled a lot towards the end. I always saw it as evidence of her love for me that she'd carry my child. Plus she was just so very cute.

Michele was one that really enjoyed being pregnant. I'd come home from work and find her sitting on the floor playing with autumn. She'd poke her tummy and Autumn would poke back from inside and Michele would just giggle up a storm. She had about two weeks of nausea in the beginning but otherwise a very easy pregnancy.

43 posted on 10/06/2005 5:38:21 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Aw, that's cute!

Everyone has a different outlook. To me, pregnancy and childbirth is just something I have to get through in order to hold the baby. It's worth it, but if I had a reasonable alternative, I'd certainly consider it :-).


44 posted on 10/06/2005 5:41:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: King Prout
I was merely pointing out that once we open the barn door ALL the animals are free to roam.

In other words , why keep up the pretense ...? If There is a market for children? Why go through all the trouble of in-vitro, surrogate mumbo jumbo ... or even adoption ... just buy one.

You see there are plenty of kids out there who need parents ... so it's obviously not about the kids needs .. it's about the parents needs and wants.

They want to be mommy or daddy to a reflection of their own ego not a child.
And since thats the case , lets just go the for the whole deal, order a blue eyed blond baby girl, let someone else do the messy part . You know throwing up in the morning and all that ..

Admit it .. if it were just about children , we wouldn't be doing unnatural things that cost thousands of dollars while there are kids everywhere looking for love.
45 posted on 10/06/2005 7:49:19 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: Tax-chick
Baby is another boy; that will make 5.

(Humbly bowing low to touch my unworthy brow to your swollen toes...)

(...and a little jealous!) ;-)

46 posted on 10/06/2005 9:01:29 AM PDT by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!! Woo-hoo!)
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To: Marie

We know we're very lucky. It will be crowded with 10 of us in the house (we also have 3 girls), but I've always said I wouldn't have gotten married if I'd wanted to live alone!

Marie Antoinette's expecting her 8th, too :-).


47 posted on 10/06/2005 9:06:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: Marie Antoinette
Congratulations! This is right about the time it began to suck for me. My daughter (as usual) was quite cooperative and only put me through two weeks of discomfort. With my son, I gained 30 pounds of fluid from week 37 to 42 and couldn't fit into any of my maternity clothes. (He was late.)

My OB took a two week vacation when I was at week 39. When he left I was dialated to 3, hving steady (but not strong) contractions and was 60% effaced. When he came back and saw me in this office at week 41 he was so shocked that he actually froze and yelled, "Why are you still pregnant?!"

I started crying... That'll teach him! heh, heh!

48 posted on 10/06/2005 9:09:48 AM PDT by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!! Woo-hoo!)
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To: wolfcreek
With privacy laws in place, it might be very difficult to find out the necessary info to guard against marrying a sibling.

I know! Until I'd read this article, I hadn't thought of that problem. This could really gum up the works.

49 posted on 10/06/2005 9:12:06 AM PDT by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!! Woo-hoo!)
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To: wolfcreek
When she finds a worthy husband and it turns out they can't conceive, perhaps they might consider ADOPTION. I know people want to carry on their bloodline, but I personally think it's weird to carry you own grandchildren.

I'm not saying that we WILL do this. I'm just saying that it's an option. Adoption only bothers me because it's made so difficult, time consuming and expensive. In the end, *if* the doctors are right (and I've seen them be wrong many, MANY times) I'm giving her one more option.

Hubby and I almost adopted a baby a few years back. Our babysitter got pregnant and was going to have an abortion. I talked her into giving the baby to us instead. I also talked her into telling her parents (heck, if she was going to have it, she couldn't hide it forever) and it was easier to tell them with a plan to back her up. ("Mom, dad. I'm pregnant. But I've decided what I'm going to do...") It worked out, though. Her parents were wonderfully supportive and she ended up keeping the baby and going to college while living with them.

A far as the "weird" factor goes, I'd rather carry a child for my daughter to raise, then to raise a child that my daughter carried!

50 posted on 10/06/2005 9:18:44 AM PDT by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!! Woo-hoo!)
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To: Marie Antoinette
Two with eight children... now I'm *really* jealous!

You've both been truly blessed!

51 posted on 10/06/2005 9:27:43 AM PDT by Marie (After 6 years of planning and working for the goal, I am now a TEXAN!! Woo-hoo!)
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To: NYer
"My worry is that a purely affectional conception of marriage will tend to favor a purely affectional conception of parenthood."

True, but the real issue that doesn't get much discussion is that the Image of God is involved here. "..they two shall become one flesh." (Gen 2:24)

We invite the judgement of God when we neglect or profane this.

52 posted on 10/06/2005 9:45:20 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: John O

"From a man's viewpoint. I love waddling. It is incredibly cute."

That's very sweet! I know my husband feels the same way. However, viewing myself walk like that is awful! It's the hormones!!

I am one of those that loves to be pregnant. I have fairly easy pregnancies and love the feeling of movement inside me. Incredibly amazing!!


53 posted on 10/06/2005 12:18:23 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: John O; samiam1972; Big Giant Head; Tax-chick

Not sure how the husband views the waddling... I suspect he has to stifle a little giggle (do men giggle?). I don't know that he'll speak up though. Self-preservation is something expectant daddies learn quickly! LOL!


54 posted on 10/06/2005 6:31:31 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (IT IS NOT A MATTER OF HOW YOU FEEL. IT IS A MATTER OF GETTING YOUR BRAIN IN GEAR. WE HAVE A PLAN)
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To: Marie Antoinette

I'm short, so I waddle early. If Veggie Tales had an eggplant character, with hair like Albert Einstein, that would be me late in pregnancy :-).


55 posted on 10/06/2005 6:34:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: Marie

I hope in addition to crying at your doctor, you told him it was ALL HIS FAULT for leaving!! LOL!

Thanks for the congrats :) I'm doing pretty well, just some physiologic swelling. It still bugs me though!


56 posted on 10/06/2005 6:44:53 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (IT IS NOT A MATTER OF HOW YOU FEEL. IT IS A MATTER OF GETTING YOUR BRAIN IN GEAR. WE HAVE A PLAN)
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To: Tax-chick

ROTFLOL!! SOTFLOL! (The second one is *stuck* on the floor - floors and I do not get along at this point, I need a crane...)

I'm about 5'4", but how can anybody NOT waddle with a baby head stuck in your... er, pelvis?


57 posted on 10/06/2005 6:48:14 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (IT IS NOT A MATTER OF HOW YOU FEEL. IT IS A MATTER OF GETTING YOUR BRAIN IN GEAR. WE HAVE A PLAN)
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To: Marie Antoinette

IF I have to comment on waddling, and I feel I must, I kinda like it, and it would be much more adorable, if I knew there was no pain involved. Waddling often seems to be a way of walking that helps reduce pain.

You're talking your waddling, not mine, right? ;-)


58 posted on 10/06/2005 6:49:39 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: Big Giant Head

There you are! Good safe answer :)

Pain... sometimes. Discomfort - very much.

And I don't think men can waddle. Can they?


59 posted on 10/06/2005 6:57:44 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (If I make your coffee, can I have a backrub? Please?)
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To: Marie Antoinette

I know just how you feel ... only I have about another four months. Unnngh!


60 posted on 10/06/2005 7:16:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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