[narby]

It's amazing that these Darwinian Fundamentalists ....

What's amazing is that religious fundamentalists seek to elevate themselves by promoting the "science" of ID, while they denigrate science by calling it "religious".

Maybe just a case of "science envy"?

[orionblamblam]

[Rapscallion]

If they could burn the ID heretics at the stake, they would.

[atlaw]

The statement goes so far as to claim, “Methodological naturalism, the view that natural phenomena can be explained without reference to supernatural beings or events, is the foundation of the sciences.” I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a scientist, but I thought that the heart of the sciences was the study of natural phenomena to gather knowledge of the universe. I thought we were supposed to start without any foregone conclusions about the supernatural at all, that is, if we wanted to be truly scientific.

Ok, I'll bite. How does one incorporate a reference to the supernatural in a scientific inquiry? Just stick a little parenthetical in saying "here a miracle occurs" and hope no one notices?

[ValenB4]

Too bad. IDers have made the fatal mistake of trying to graft a non-scientific idea onto science. Then they complain when scientists oppose their nonsense. ID is going down. It's only a matter of time.

[Coyoteman]

All we are asking is that science pursue all the evidence.

So you want this taught? I have a few others I could post if you are truly interest in "all the evidence." Let me know.

Zulu Creation Myth

The Ancient One, known as Unkulunkulu, is the Zulu creator. He came from the reeds (uthlanga, means source) and from them he brought forth the people and the cattle. He created everything that is: mountains, streams, snakes, etc. He taught the Zulu how to hunt, how to make fire, and how to grow food. He is considered to be the First Man and is in everything that he created.

http://www.gateway-africa.com/stories/

[Egregious Philbin]

"What we can't say we can't say, and we can't whistle it either." - Frank Ramsey

[Mamzelle]

re: I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that this thing is getting out of control. )))

Their franchise is threatened. Their Grants. Their status.

[SJSAMPLE]

LOL.

What's next?
"It's not gravity, it's 'Intelligent Falling'. "

[BigEdLB]

The Inquisition, What a Show!

[Ostlandr]

I find all this sensitivity to having one's beliefs questioned or contradicted very entertaining.

Put a gun to my head, make me sing "Old Rugged Cross" or bow down to Mecca- you're not going to change the faith or beliefs in my heart. As (I think) Saint Thomas Aquinas said, without free will, faith cannot exist.

My daughter learns Darwinist science in school. And she learns our faith's creation stories at home. She gets to choose which to believe- or maybe decide that science and religion aren't mutually exclusive.

As my wife's old professor used to say, "When evolution makes these sudden leaps, that science can't explain- there is the hand of God."

[shuckmaster]

I'd say Iowa State University has 120 smart professors and one extreme ignorance spewing blog writer.

[Nuc1]

Nice post. Some what like the MSM Darwinists are sooo biased they don't even know they're biased.

[Oztrich Boy]

The “Darwinist inquisition,” as a Discovery Institute press release calls it,

Now there's a fine impartial source.

What's next? Citing a Code Pink press release comment on G W Bush?

[porkchops 4 mahound]

Darwinian evolution, the favored opiate of atheists.

[RightInEastLansing]

"One of the great myths of our time is the idea that undirected process could somehow be responsible for turning dead chemicals into all the complexity of living things. The current state of abiogenesis is summarized by Klause Dose:

More than thirty years of experimentation on the origin of life in the fields of chemical and molecular evolution have led to a better perception of the immensity of the problem of the origin of life on Earth rather than to its solution. At present all discussions on principle theories and experiments in the field end in stalemate or in a confession of ignorance."

Until the Darwinian fundamentalists can demonstrate a "natural" way to significantly reverse entropy, they should bow to the statisticians.

I am not saying that a natural process won't eventually be discovered, but as of today the idea that life began through a random process is as ludicrous as an earth centered solar system.

And please spare me any reference to the Miller/Urey sham.
I am not a religious person, and don't want biblical creationism taught in school, but I do wish the scientific community would stop being so dogmatic in its support of Darwinian evolutionary science. Darwin did a splendid job of explaining some of the evolutionary process, but to extrapolate this theory to all aspects of this process is an exercise in blind faith.

[mlc9852]

Nice, fair, balanced article. Thanks for posting.

[Right Wing Professor]

I’ll be the first to admit I’m not a scientist, but I thought that the heart of the sciences was the study of natural phenomena to gather knowledge of the universe. I thought we were supposed to start without any foregone conclusions about the supernatural at all, that is, if we wanted to be truly scientific.

That's where he doesn't get it. The supernatural is always a possible explanation, but where we accept it as a possibility, we stifle the search for natural explanations.

Case in point; it used to be thought that human disease was a consequence of sin, and that therefore the only efficacious way of curing it was prayer. The Black Death is a testimony tot eh effectiveness of that approach. Starting in about the 18th century, we started to look for naturalistic causes for disease, and now we accept that disease has naturalistic and not supernatural causes. As a result we've been able to find cures for many diseases, where previously supernaturalists came up with no effective treatment at all.

That is why we adopt methodological naturalism. And, of course, so does Colson. When he gets sick, he goes to a doctor, not a preacher.

[shuckmaster]

Early evening ping!

[Doc Savage]

Oh no, the sky is falling! How dare ANYONE question Darwin! Especially a trained biologist like myself! Oh dear! Why this is just terrible!